Nintendo DS vs Sony PSP - Page 3

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-01-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

People are shallow minded if magazines tell them its good then people will buy it. Thats how it works. Im pretty sure every magazine is going to kiss Sony's butt and say its the best handheld ever and give it lots of praise.

They already are. The media is against Nintendo. You know they've got to be good when the only magazine on they're side, is they're own magazine.

I still think they'll win in the US, it'll just be a closer fight thanks to the media.

Peanut · 01-01-2005, 04:15 PM

Come on now. The media isn't against Nintendo. Maybe they just haven't been coming up with the greatest stuff as of late and people actually realize that. DS being the one exception. I mean...look at the Gamecube, how many out of this world amazing games have been released for it? One's that'll be remembered for reasons besides the franchise they're tacked on to. While the games may have been great, SM Sunshine, LoZ: tWW, etc. They weren't classic Nintendo games by any means. Take the Zelda franchise out of WW and it would probably be an above average Action Adventure game. The same goes for Sunshine. Really when I look at my Gamecube library I see very little new or refreshing experiences. Pikmin and Animal Crossing being the only two. You can add Metroid Prime in there. I didn't, because I only owned it for 4 days. SSB: M was/is an amazing game, but really it's just an update. Now look out to the future line up. We've got Star Fox, which, lets face it, isn't exactly the greatest series ever. Then Zelda, which will no doubt be a blast, but will it really be a new experience? I can only hope. I've done a lot of thinking on this. Nintendo is always praised for innovation and creativity, but besides the few things, they haven't made any real Nintendo classics this generation. We'll remember the NES, Super Mario, Zelda. The SNES, Super Mario World, DKC, Super Metroid. The N64, SM64, OoT, SSB...but Gamecube?

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-01-2005, 04:44 PM

Well, I believe that Metroid Prime was one of the most innovative games this generation because it established the fact that an adventure game can be experienced from a first person perspective and work as good, if not better than any other.....but you have a point on the others (Star Fox pending til February....but probobly it too).

I've enjoyed every game I've played this generation (except that damn NFS Hot persuit.....sold that sucker), but Nintendo's games haven't really been anything different this generation....but then again, neither have anyone elses. Jest better version, or sequels to what we saw last generation. They see this. That's why DS isn't just another Game Boy, and that's why we're scratching our heads trying to figure out where Revolution's A & B buttons went. Nintendo's trying to milk the old style of game development for all they can because in all likelyhood, it won't apply next generation.

All systems are filled with sequels and ports right now, but I believe we're on the verge of change. Enjoy the old days of ports while they last, because they're coming to an end. DS is the messanger. The launch titles were rushed to get the jump on Sony. They did. The real DS games come in the next couple of months, and each one of them is going to be a new experience, and remembered for starting a new genre. Gamecube is apprently going to be they're last "normal" console.

But that new Zelda has promise other than style. The return of top down dungons, and horse combat are things that should be great.

*edit* I had another point, but it sounded dumb. Needs rewording.

Peanut · 01-01-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

All systems are filled with sequels and ports right now, but I believe we're on the verge of change.

God, I hope so. Nintendo better pull off some sick sh*t soon.

*Kid Icarus* · 01-01-2005, 07:11 PM

They will. I think the Revolution's going to have us peeing in our pants, I really do. There seems to be even more "WTF?" going on around it then there was with the DS, so I'm just gonna assume the more "WTF?" the better.

*jeff the cheff* · 01-05-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Am I the only one who thinks the whole console war thing is really really stupid?

No, I was reading TMB's post above that and shaking my head. It's not going to be an ugly war, it's just going to be like all the other times that game consoles have come out. They come out and its a huge deal, and one sells better than the others and thats that. Just because the Nintendo Revolution might not sell as well as the PS3, doesn't mean the whole gaming industry is going to hell. And I read everything about Sony "buying out" every company and I was like "wow....Sony is evil" But then I realized that there is no proof behind any of this, and it probobly isn't true. They just want to have the best selling products so they can make the most money.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-05-2005, 09:56 PM

This is just a rant. Not really related to any particular point.

The deal is, Nintendo and Sony have completely different ways of looking at the industry. Both was your cash. That's where it ends. Sony slacks off on first party and instead opps to trap third parties into development for their portables by holding their PS2 licence over their head. This will hurt them badly come next generation with the PS3. It's a freash start, and Revolution will presumably launch the same week, so there's other places to go with their games.

Sony wants quantity, NIntendo wants quality. As a result, Nintendo's development cycles are longer. They're making up for this by opening more studios and having Shiggy training them. They're expanding to make up for third partys. The quality won't go down.

PSP developers will be slacking off on the games to attempt to save on the budget since the games will cost as much as a PS2 game to produce. DS games don't cost near as much. DS will win, and it will hurt the Playstation brand a little, giving Nintendo a big brake come E3 with Revolution.

[/end rant]

*jeff the cheff* · 01-15-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Thats so true. Im always whats against style anyways. I hate everything mainsteam. From music to movies.

No you don't. You like TMNT, which is VERY mainstreem.

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Originally Posted by TMB

And even it's looks are just a GBA streched out of porportion. It's a fragile paperweight. I bet kids over here will break the store demo units in a week.

All store demo units of DS were broken within a short time too. The touch screens don't even work anymore, even if you try to calibrate it.

*Kid Icarus* · 01-15-2005, 07:40 PM

That's because little kids are jabbing the stylus into the screen. Of course that's going to break it.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-16-2005, 01:53 PM

Everyone breaks store displays because it's not their's. They want to see how much it can take for the fun of it. I've seen those little bastards rip sticks out of GCN and PS2 controllers for fun.

*jeff the cheff* · 01-16-2005, 04:29 PM

Yea, those kids ****ed DS' up reaaal bad.

*Kid Icarus* · 01-17-2005, 02:48 AM

I also hear that some diehard PSP fans are running around scratching "PSP rules" onto DS touchscreens.

Really, have we sunk that far? Sure, I may TALK about urinating on a PS2, setting it on fire, urinating on it again, and sending it into sony... but do I do it? No, 'cause I belive as a Nintendo gamer I'm expected to have a high level of class.

Peanut · 01-17-2005, 08:03 AM

Or maybe you just don't have a spare PS2 to do that to.

*jeff the cheff* · 01-17-2005, 07:03 PM

I'll pretty much pee on anything.

愛 · 01-17-2005, 07:07 PM

You can't be serious. Gamers don't have an ounce of class. We bash the hell out of rival systems/games/whatever the f*ck like children. If we weren't so lazy, we'd probably be the most deadly rioters EVER.

*Kid Icarus* · 01-17-2005, 11:09 PM

*coughJapaneseN64launchcough*

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-17-2005, 11:26 PM

HAHAHAHA oh man, that is priceless. The only thing that could beat a gamer riot in total gallons of blood would be Tianniman Square.

Damn preorders screwed up the riot we wanted in Japan at the DS launch. Revolution needs a shortage. I want to see BLOOD!

*the preceeding comments only serve as more proof that gamers are crazy, bloodthirsty maniacs*

But violent fanboys are probobly the most dangerious of all.

*Kid Icarus* · 01-17-2005, 11:31 PM

This is why, TMB, neither of us can go near any of Sony's buildings with the following:

Explosives
Sharp objects
Blunt objects
Biological weapons

This is also why I'm going to stay far FAR away from stores when the PSP launches. I might just attack people with my Gamecube for getting one.

*jeff the cheff* · 01-18-2005, 02:28 PM

I wanna pee on stuff.

*Kid Icarus* · 01-18-2005, 06:31 PM

Well, I guess we could pee on Sony's HQ...

01-01-2005, 04:44 PM	#43
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Well, I believe that Metroid Prime was one of the most innovative games this generation because it established the fact that an adventure game can be experienced from a first person perspective and work as good, if not better than any other.....but you have a point on the others (Star Fox pending til February....but probobly it too). I've enjoyed every game I've played this generation (except that damn NFS Hot persuit.....sold that sucker), but Nintendo's games haven't really been anything different this generation....but then again, neither have anyone elses. Jest better version, or sequels to what we saw last generation. They see this. That's why DS isn't just another Game Boy, and that's why we're scratching our heads trying to figure out where Revolution's A & B buttons went. Nintendo's trying to milk the old style of game development for all they can because in all likelyhood, it won't apply next generation. All systems are filled with sequels and ports right now, but I believe we're on the verge of change. Enjoy the old days of ports while they last, because they're coming to an end. DS is the messanger. The launch titles were rushed to get the jump on Sony. They did. The real DS games come in the next couple of months, and each one of them is going to be a new experience, and remembered for starting a new genre. Gamecube is apprently going to be they're last "normal" console. But that new Zelda has promise other than style. The return of top down dungons, and horse combat are things that should be great. edit I had another point, but it sounded dumb. Needs rewording. __________________

01-05-2005, 09:56 PM	#47
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	This is just a rant. Not really related to any particular point. The deal is, Nintendo and Sony have completely different ways of looking at the industry. Both was your cash. That's where it ends. Sony slacks off on first party and instead opps to trap third parties into development for their portables by holding their PS2 licence over their head. This will hurt them badly come next generation with the PS3. It's a freash start, and Revolution will presumably launch the same week, so there's other places to go with their games. Sony wants quantity, NIntendo wants quality. As a result, Nintendo's development cycles are longer. They're making up for this by opening more studios and having Shiggy training them. They're expanding to make up for third partys. The quality won't go down. PSP developers will be slacking off on the games to attempt to save on the budget since the games will cost as much as a PS2 game to produce. DS games don't cost near as much. DS will win, and it will hurt the Playstation brand a little, giving Nintendo a big brake come E3 with Revolution. [/end rant] __________________

01-16-2005, 01:53 PM	#50
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Everyone breaks store displays because it's not their's. They want to see how much it can take for the fun of it. I've seen those little bastards rip sticks out of GCN and PS2 controllers for fun. __________________

01-17-2005, 11:26 PM	#57
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	HAHAHAHA oh man, that is priceless. The only thing that could beat a gamer riot in total gallons of blood would be Tianniman Square. Damn preorders screwed up the riot we wanted in Japan at the DS launch. Revolution needs a shortage. I want to see BLOOD! the preceeding comments only serve as more proof that gamers are crazy, bloodthirsty maniacs But violent fanboys are probobly the most dangerious of all. __________________

01-01-2005, 04:15 PM	#42
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Come on now. The media isn't against Nintendo. Maybe they just haven't been coming up with the greatest stuff as of late and people actually realize that. DS being the one exception. I mean...look at the Gamecube, how many out of this world amazing games have been released for it? One's that'll be remembered for reasons besides the franchise they're tacked on to. While the games may have been great, SM Sunshine, LoZ: tWW, etc. They weren't classic Nintendo games by any means. Take the Zelda franchise out of WW and it would probably be an above average Action Adventure game. The same goes for Sunshine. Really when I look at my Gamecube library I see very little new or refreshing experiences. Pikmin and Animal Crossing being the only two. You can add Metroid Prime in there. I didn't, because I only owned it for 4 days. SSB: M was/is an amazing game, but really it's just an update. Now look out to the future line up. We've got Star Fox, which, lets face it, isn't exactly the greatest series ever. Then Zelda, which will no doubt be a blast, but will it really be a new experience? I can only hope. I've done a lot of thinking on this. Nintendo is always praised for innovation and creativity, but besides the few things, they haven't made any real Nintendo classics this generation. We'll remember the NES, Super Mario, Zelda. The SNES, Super Mario World, DKC, Super Metroid. The N64, SM64, OoT, SSB...but Gamecube?

01-01-2005, 07:11 PM	#45
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	They will. I think the Revolution's going to have us peeing in our pants, I really do. There seems to be even more "WTF?" going on around it then there was with the DS, so I'm just gonna assume the more "WTF?" the better.

01-15-2005, 07:40 PM	#49
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	That's because little kids are jabbing the stylus into the screen. Of course that's going to break it.

01-16-2005, 04:29 PM	#51
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	Yea, those kids ****ed DS' up reaaal bad.

01-17-2005, 02:48 AM	#52
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	I also hear that some diehard PSP fans are running around scratching "PSP rules" onto DS touchscreens. Really, have we sunk that far? Sure, I may TALK about urinating on a PS2, setting it on fire, urinating on it again, and sending it into sony... but do I do it? No, 'cause I belive as a Nintendo gamer I'm expected to have a high level of class.

01-17-2005, 08:03 AM	#53
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Or maybe you just don't have a spare PS2 to do that to.

01-17-2005, 07:03 PM	#54
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I'll pretty much pee on anything.

01-17-2005, 07:07 PM	#55
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	You can't be serious. Gamers don't have an ounce of class. We bash the hell out of rival systems/games/whatever the f*ck like children. If we weren't so lazy, we'd probably be the most deadly rioters EVER.

01-17-2005, 11:09 PM	#56
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	coughJapaneseN64launchcough

01-17-2005, 11:31 PM	#58
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	This is why, TMB, neither of us can go near any of Sony's buildings with the following: Explosives Sharp objects Blunt objects Biological weapons This is also why I'm going to stay far FAR away from stores when the PSP launches. I might just attack people with my Gamecube for getting one.

01-18-2005, 02:28 PM	#59
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I wanna pee on stuff.

01-18-2005, 06:31 PM	#60
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	Well, I guess we could pee on Sony's HQ...