Image Discussion Thread - Page 3

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 03-11-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher Classic

But the teeth! Those pointy teeth!

Anyway, have the Utroms ever been referenced as even having a gender, outside of this case?

And no points for the "incident involving the Utrom ambassador's wife." (FF)

Eh...they may be like worms, which are hermaphroditic in nature.

Someone should ask Peter Laird

Never seen a female Triceraton either.

*plastroncafe* · 03-11-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oroku_CJJ

Eh...they may be like worms, which are hermaphroditic in nature.

Someone should ask Peter Laird

Never seen a female Triceraton either.

It's possible they're like Pratchett's Dwarves, and have no sexual dimorphism. Both sexes look like one gender.

*discordiatookie* · 03-11-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher Classic

But the teeth! Those pointy teeth!

Anyway, have the Utroms ever been referenced as even having a gender, outside of this case?

And no points for the "incident involving the Utrom ambassador's wife." (FF)

I seem to remember an Utrom conversation in vol 4, one saying that he misses his partner and kids, and the other saying that he doesn't blame him, he's seen holovids of his family. Just had a quick look to see what issue its in, but alas, I can't find it.

**Venom** · 03-11-2010, 07:51 PM

Hijacking my topic again since I read #14 today. I like how Leo was such a dick toward the cyborg and seemed irrespective on the well-being of Don by exclaiming they should leave it there to die. Everyone expects Raph to be the badass to hide his emotions through anger and passion but that's simply untrue. In this issue Leo was playing the badass who really mourned his brother but felt he couldn't be bothered by any display of outward emotion since he's the leader. To show such would be a sign of weakness.

And Raph officially taking up the mantle of the Shredder and heading up the Foot Clan is more awesome than I imagined it would be. I had always wanted to see how this aspect of the story played out and so far it's better than I imagined! The part where Tony's guy knew it wasn't Saki behind the mask was cool since no one seemed to care who it was, not even Tony, all they knew was the fookin' Shredder was back!

I felt the truce between the Foot and the Mafia was a little hollow since Raph simply promised to kill Tony if he attempted to grab Shadow again, but then again there were massive casualties to both sides so it did benefit both sides.

Don being trapped in the astral plane is certainly interesting since he was always the one who had the hardest time accepting a spiritual natue and always wanted a reasonable explanation for things. And him being the demon "terrorizing" Bat-Splinter was something I didn't expect, to be honest. I didn't want to spoil it for myself with the how of Don's surviving and Splinter's cure (well, I do know Splinter's cure, but I digress).

I'll never understand why the true version of the Turtles (ie. comics) isn't more popular...

*CyberCubed* · 03-11-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom

I'll never understand why the true version of the Turtles (ie. comics) isn't more popular...

A lot of people simply don't read comics.

I am a huge Batman fan, but I don't actually read the Batman comics. I read summaries online so I can keep up with what's going on in the Batman comics, but I don't actually own them and read through them myself. I simply don't have time or money to buy 1,000+ Batman comics to see what's going on.

Even though Mirage TMNT is only like....150 comics, (its probably less than that if you ignore the non-canon issues) its still not something an average fan is going to go after.

*odupianist* · 03-12-2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by discordiatookie

I seem to remember an Utrom conversation in vol 4, one saying that he misses his partner and kids, and the other saying that he doesn't blame him, he's seen holovids of his family. Just had a quick look to see what issue its in, but alas, I can't find it.

That's in Volume 1, Issue 4 when the Turtles break into the TCRI building to find out more about their origin and ultimately find Splinter.

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/four/pg27.htm

*discordiatookie* · 03-12-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

That's in Volume 1, Issue 4 when the Turtles break into the TCRI building to find out more about their origin and ultimately find Splinter.

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/four/pg27.htm

Ha! For some reason I had it in my head that it happened in vol 4 - either in the jungle or around the time of April's operation / bomb going off. I were way off there...

*ToTheNines* · 03-15-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I moved em to the "Mirage 'Volume 3' (cont)" era on the list. I think they work better there from a narrative stand-point, too, rather than immediately after Berger's "Leatherhead Trilogy". Otherwise, the Turtles kinda went a reaallly long time without seeing Leatherhead.

But yeah, the final placement does sorta depend on how the Image conclusion plays out, I guess.

Actually, Razorback from "Sometimes They Come Back" came outta those stories and Raph recognizes him there.

So they have to be before Image. Feasibly, those two stories could take place right after "To Serve and Protect", but i'll let you decide.

*DrSpengler* · 03-15-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Actually, Razorback from "Sometimes They Come Back" came outta those stories and Raph recognizes him there.

So they have to be before Image. Feasibly, those two stories could take place right after "To Serve and Protect", but i'll let you decide.

D'oh! How could I forget about that!?

Hmmm... Now that DOES make a problem. Because now it HAS to take place before Image Volume 3, meaning there's no way around Leo completely forgetting about the adventure.

I moved them back to their original placement for now. Tristan actually put "World's Deadliest" there in the first place, which is why I was reluctant to move it the first time (figured he'd know best of all where his own stories belong).

I guess its just one of those things that can't be No-Prized.

*ToTheNines* · 03-15-2010, 09:43 AM

Well if it went after "Serve and Protect" then Leo would be more likely to lump all that in with the gang wars.

Weak, but it's all I got lol.

I guess you could run it by Tristan again and see if he can come up with anything new.

TristanHuwJones · 03-15-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

D'oh! How could I forget about that!?

Hmmm... Now that DOES make a problem. Because now it HAS to take place before Image Volume 3, meaning there's no way around Leo completely forgetting about the adventure.

I moved them back to their original placement for now. Tristan actually put "World's Deadliest" there in the first place, which is why I was reluctant to move it the first time (figured he'd know best of all where his own stories belong).

I guess its just one of those things that can't be No-Prized.

Where are you getting the bit with Leo's memory from, out of curiosity, is it in reference to the Image stuff?

I'd always seen World's Deadliest as coming early on in the piece. LONG before the gang wars. Razorback didn't have the bio-tech going on then.

*ToTheNines* · 03-15-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Where are you getting the bit with Leo's memory from, out of curiosity, is it in reference to the Image stuff?

Yeah. In Image #17 he's talking to himself while running through the sewers "blah blah blah, last time we saw Leatherhead, Dan Berger blew a transmat device in his face, I think he's pissed".

**Venom** · 03-17-2010, 10:06 PM

Just read 17 tonight, and I commend Gary's writing yet again because for the first time ever I found myself disliking Leo. He was such a dickhead toward Mike regarding his writing! It seemed like Leo was facing the fact that he basically no longer had a group to lead anymore and didn't want to accept that. I'm glad he learned some humility on the last page, heh.

*DrSpengler* · 03-17-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Where are you getting the bit with Leo's memory from, out of curiosity, is it in reference to the Image stuff?

It was an earlier discussion. Obviously he didn't "forget" the Tales issues with Leatherhead because they hadn't been written yet. As I said, simply "no-prizing" it.

We were talking about, if Image Volume 3 were reinserted into Mirage continuity, how it would create a continuity error since Leo's last memory of Leatherhead was TMNT #45, not any of the Tales issues that took place afterward but before Volume 3.

So yeah, the best "no prize" anyone could come up with was, "Well, I guess he just forgot about those adventures..."

**Venom** · 03-18-2010, 05:09 AM

Perhaps the mind**** the Turtles experienced at the end of Volume 2 created a minor lapse in the recollection of memories. Leo didn't recall what exactly happened with Braunze until some time after.

**Venom** · 03-25-2010, 07:14 PM

Just read #18! Boy, Leo sure must have been on an adrenaline rush to be so casual about his new stump by the end of the book, then again he may have been too busy berating Casey for the reward money to pay attention lol!

Where did the MIB come from? They just descend on Don out of nowhere it seemed.

turkishproverb · 03-25-2010, 08:40 PM

You know, it just occurred to me that Dr. X in V3 could help explain the move of the Utroms in V 4.

**Venom** · 03-25-2010, 09:08 PM

Nvm, I found out.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-25-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by turkishproverb

You know, it just occurred to me that Dr. X in V3 could help explain the move of the Utroms in V 4.

You been readin' the Image conclusion scripts?

*ToTheNines* · 03-25-2010, 10:44 PM

Ooooh, anymore hints laying around?

03-15-2010, 09:43 AM	#50
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,191	Well if it went after "Serve and Protect" then Leo would be more likely to lump all that in with the gang wars. Weak, but it's all I got lol. I guess you could run it by Tristan again and see if he can come up with anything new. Last edited by ToTheNines; 03-15-2010 at 09:51 AM.

03-25-2010, 09:08 PM	#58
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Nvm, I found out. Last edited by Venom; 04-25-2010 at 08:23 PM.

03-11-2010, 07:51 PM	#44
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Hijacking my topic again since I read #14 today. I like how Leo was such a dick toward the cyborg and seemed irrespective on the well-being of Don by exclaiming they should leave it there to die. Everyone expects Raph to be the badass to hide his emotions through anger and passion but that's simply untrue. In this issue Leo was playing the badass who really mourned his brother but felt he couldn't be bothered by any display of outward emotion since he's the leader. To show such would be a sign of weakness. And Raph officially taking up the mantle of the Shredder and heading up the Foot Clan is more awesome than I imagined it would be. I had always wanted to see how this aspect of the story played out and so far it's better than I imagined! The part where Tony's guy knew it wasn't Saki behind the mask was cool since no one seemed to care who it was, not even Tony, all they knew was the fookin' Shredder was back! I felt the truce between the Foot and the Mafia was a little hollow since Raph simply promised to kill Tony if he attempted to grab Shadow again, but then again there were massive casualties to both sides so it did benefit both sides. Don being trapped in the astral plane is certainly interesting since he was always the one who had the hardest time accepting a spiritual natue and always wanted a reasonable explanation for things. And him being the demon "terrorizing" Bat-Splinter was something I didn't expect, to be honest. I didn't want to spoil it for myself with the how of Don's surviving and Splinter's cure (well, I do know Splinter's cure, but I digress). I'll never understand why the true version of the Turtles (ie. comics) isn't more popular...

03-17-2010, 10:06 PM	#53
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Just read 17 tonight, and I commend Gary's writing yet again because for the first time ever I found myself disliking Leo. He was such a dickhead toward Mike regarding his writing! It seemed like Leo was facing the fact that he basically no longer had a group to lead anymore and didn't want to accept that. I'm glad he learned some humility on the last page, heh.

03-18-2010, 05:09 AM	#55
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Perhaps the mind**** the Turtles experienced at the end of Volume 2 created a minor lapse in the recollection of memories. Leo didn't recall what exactly happened with Braunze until some time after.

03-25-2010, 07:14 PM	#56
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Just read #18! Boy, Leo sure must have been on an adrenaline rush to be so casual about his new stump by the end of the book, then again he may have been too busy berating Casey for the reward money to pay attention lol! Where did the MIB come from? They just descend on Don out of nowhere it seemed.

03-25-2010, 10:44 PM	#60
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,191	Ooooh, anymore hints laying around?