Anyone find it funny that TMNT is rebooted along with all of DC?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Logan

I don't propose that everything be put in one huge book. It would have to be broken up into multiple books.

Okay. Thanks for clarifying.

Originally Posted by Logan

I'd assume that there would be some rights issues with regards to Image's own characters.

There aren't, really. IDW would have to get permission from Larsen & Carlson (as discussed in another thread, Image doesn't own anything), but we've no reason to think they wouldn't grant it.

Originally Posted by Logan

3) "Sure they would-- price."

The success of Dark Horse's various Omnibus collections would prove otherwise.

No, it wouldn't. Success of collected editions has nothing to do with it. It's unfair for a publisher to require readers to purchase multiple expensive hardcovers in order to enjoy or understand a brand-new series that has been previously advertised as "a good jumping-on point."

I didn't say publishers never do this; I said it would be unreasonable of them to do it.

Originally Posted by Logan

Not really. DC and Marvel have been doing it for years. They reference characters and events from comics made quite a while ago (i.e., The Killing Joke, which is available for purchasing).

Again -- just because some publishers demand readers buy everything in order to grasp what's happening in a particular story -- doesn't mean it's a commendable practice.

And just in case there's any confusion, I'm not talking about "referencing" past events -- such as Barbara Gordon talking about being crippled (with a little asterisk pointing to a caption mentioning The Killing Joke) -- I'm talking about the folly of making collected editions required reading for new readers of a new series.

Originally Posted by Logan

However, I don't think the continuity should be wiped clean because some readers might not get a reference to an issue from the Eastman & Laird run. A little note like "See the classic issue TMNT #8" would work fine.

That's something you'd have to take up with IDW.

Originally Posted by Logan

Plus, from a business stand-point, it would pique the curiosity of the reader and make them buy the collections just to learn what happened.

THIS is what they should do -- get the readers interested in the original material. Not force them to buy more products when the new series is supposed to be an easy-entry, good-jumping-on-point kind of deal.

[Logan]

"And just in case there's any confusion, I'm not talking about "referencing" past events -- such as Barbara Gordon talking about being crippled (with a little asterisk pointing to a caption mentioning The Killing Joke) -- I'm talking about the folly of making collected editions required reading for new readers of a new series."

I agree with you.

I guess my point I'm trying to make is that it isn't necessary to build a new continuity out of concern for new readers not being in the know.

A good example would be the movies. You can watch TMNT on its own without seeing the previous three films, but it's still within the same continuity.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Logan

I guess my point I'm trying to make is that it isn't necessary to build a new continuity out of concern for new readers not being in the know.

You're right; they don't have to wipe the slate totally clean to make the book fresh and accessible to new readers. They could retain the old continuity without being hindered by it (and without requiring new readers to buy other books, like I was talking about before).

And at the risk of sounding redundant -- that's precisely what they did with Volume 3: they started with a completely new story that was very new-reader-friendly, but it still took place in the original universe. And as the series progressed, we began to see more and more references to that original continuity (such as the appearances of Leatherhead & the Triceratons).

I'm sure IDW's decision to take the direction they've chosen is one that was very carefully considered, and I'm sure they're doing what they think is best given the various factors at play -- a new comic series, an upcoming Nick 'toon, Eastman's involvement, Mirage's rights with their continued publishing, etc. Hopefully their efforts turn out well.

Originally Posted by Logan

A good example would be the movies. You can watch TMNT on its own without seeing the previous three films, but it's still within the same continuity.

Definitely, and I applaud that aspect of it. And I hope you'll forgive me for going off on a totally tangential soapbox for a moment -- but I am NOT looking forward to seeing Superman and Spidey's origins get retold in their upcoming movie reboots. Come on, guys. We all know their origins at this point -- even non-comic readers know about Uncle Ben and Krypton. Can't we move on to telling the damn stories?

/Soapbox

[CyberCubed]

The irony of it all is with the Paramount/WB merger, this could very well happen again after 2028 (when IDW's license expires), unless they renew.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The irony of it all is with the Paramount/WB merger, this could very well happen again after 2028 (when IDW's license expires), unless they renew.

Do you have a source on the 2028 date?