Kevin Eastman Talks Michael Bay Film - Page 3

Colonel Schrader · 03-15-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude

Touche.

I should say, trying to get my mind ready for crude jokes and silly one-liners to make up the entirety of the turtles' dialogue. As the Autobots lacked character development, personal struggle, subplots... They just showed up, fought, and made jokes.

different director and writers tho, i don't think it will be like transformers. Bay is busy with TF4, and Pain and Gain is coming out in April, he is busy putting the finishing touches on that.. plus i also think, whatever they do would needs to get approval from Nick. Im sure there will be a bunch of stupid one liners, but i don't think it will be 2 sexual or explicit.

with Transformers there was just 2 many characters to focus on, so yeah character development lacked, they did okay with optimus and bee.. but they focused more on the humans. I don't think they will have that problem with tmnt, there are far less characters to focus on.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-15-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Luzmagica

So he is actually admiting "changes here and there" compatible with another TMNT universe (like IDW comics) for the Movie !!!!!!

I think its an important clue! We are going to find something absolutely new and never seeing before about TMNT origins in new Movie!!

Kill me now.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

Yes they did clear the air saying the mutagen was of alien origin and not the turtles themselves. It was liebsman who said it, the interview was on youtube.

You are mistaken. What is the quote? Every quote I've read just talks about the mutagen's comic book alien origins as a smokescreen and never, ever addresses the "Are they aliens in the film still?" with a yes or a no.

*chrisdude* · 03-15-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

different director and writers tho, i don't think it will be like transformers. Bay is busy with TF4, and Pain and Gain is coming out in April, he is busy putting the finishing touches on that.. plus i also think, whatever they do would needs to get approval from Nick. Im sure there will be a bunch of stupid one liners, but i don't think it will be 2 sexual or explicit.

with Transformers there was just 2 many characters to focus on, so yeah character development lacked, they did okay with optimus and bee.. but they focused more on the humans. I don't think they will have that problem with tmnt, there are far less characters to focus on.

I wish I could take comfort in Bay not writing or directing, but every piece of information that has been announced or leaked is 100% in his style. That leaked script had the current writers' names on it. And it's 100% Transformers. All indications point to Bay having total control and influence over this project.

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And they didn't even let Bumblebee talk! They turned him into a pet dog.

RaphAndDonnie · 03-15-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

different director and writers tho, i don't think it will be like transformers. Bay is busy with TF4, and Pain and Gain is coming out in April, he is busy putting the finishing touches on that.. plus i also think, whatever they do would needs to get approval from Nick. Im sure there will be a bunch of stupid one liners,but i don't think it will be 2 sexual or explicit.

If the movie gets along the lines of a PG-13 rating then I feel like they will push how sexual they can be/ make Fox look. Remember, she's eye candy for the audience.

*CyberCubed* · 03-15-2013, 10:26 AM

Nobody wants to see a slutty April O'Neil.

*Xav* · 03-15-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

If they listen to Kevin At all :Mr.Bay nods, pretends he's listening and thinks 'sure old man..boobs..explosions is where i'm going'...his soul purpose is to at least try and make sure they don't crap all over it like they did transformers...

True, though I doubt Bay would call someone two years older them him "old man".

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You are mistaken. What is the quote? Every quote I've read just talks about the mutagen's comic book alien origins as a smokescreen and never, ever addresses the "Are they aliens in the film still?" with a yes or a no.

Well Kevin did say this.

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Michael Bay said the turtles would be aliens, the point he was working from was that the mutagen that mutated the Turtles going back to issue one is alien nature. Which may be a point being played up in the movie. So when the backlash happened we had to say, ‘Go back and look at the issue, its right there!’”

http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/teenage-mutan...interview.html

ryukenden · 03-15-2013, 11:15 AM

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing if the Turtles will actually use their weapons the way they were actually designed for. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if Megan Fox's April has a scene where her clothing gets torn up by Mousers while trying to evade them until the Turtles rescue her.

The Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street remakes did kind of stay true to the source material but they were seen as inferior to the original product. Particularly Jackie Earle Haley is no Robert Englund being the most common.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-15-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav

True, though I doubt Bay would call someone two years older them him "old man".
Well Kevin did say this:

"Michael Bay said the turtles would be aliens, the point he was working from was that the mutagen that mutated the Turtles going back to issue one is alien nature. Which may be a point being played up in the movie. So when the backlash happened we had to say, ‘Go back and look at the issue, its right there!’"

Right. So where in there is Kevin saying they're not aliens?

Bob · 03-15-2013, 11:42 AM

All this "We want to make a film for the fans" is something they all say when any adaptation is getting made. It’s not just Eastman who is guilty of that. The harsh reality is, the fans are the last group of people they care about. There are a whole host of reasons for that, the main one being that they want to make a film that will please the majority rather than the minority (and no, by saying that I'm not advocating the whole alien thing. I'm just speaking generally). Another reason is that they know full well that, even with all the moaning and whatnot, there is a very good chance the majority of the fans will bite the bullet and buy a ticket anyway.

**Venom** · 03-15-2013, 12:57 PM

I'm curious how long Evan Daugherty has been working on his "current draft" that Deadline reported on a couple of weeks back.

Inquisitr also made mention of him putting "his own unique spin" on the story.

plasticturtle · 03-15-2013, 01:02 PM

Yeah I'm pretty sure they said that about the Transformers films too and look how they turned out. A lot of longtime fans hated them. I kind of enjoyed them for what they were but that may be because I didn't give a damn about Transformers as a kid and wasn't as offended about the portrayal of the characters.

And I don't really give a damn about Megan Fox either. All I really want from a TMNT movie is to see the TMNT portrayed accurately. If they do them right I'm sure I'll love it. But I don't know how I'll react if they pull a bayformers with the film.

Bob · 03-15-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom

I'm curious how long Evan Daugherty has been working on his "current draft" that Deadline reported on a couple of weeks back.

Inquisitr also made mention of him putting "his own unique spin" on the story.

Yeah, I’m most interested by that, too. Funny how there was no official announcement of him coming on board, when there usually is whenever a new writer joins the party.

*Xav* · 03-15-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

This reminds me of the time Transformers was coming out. Certain groups of fanboys were outraged over **** like Optimus Prime had flames on him & how they looked etc..there were death threats and all of that, but then the movie came out and went on to make billions and bring in a whole new set of fans to the series, I think it will be the same thing here. You will still have a weird set of fans that will hate, but it will bring in millions of new fans. You can't always please everyone!

You guys are hating on the movie based on some super old script that was tossed aside ages ago, a miss quote from Bay that was cleared up by liebsman. You have not seen anything yet! I have faith in the project. We need to see something first before we start judging, only after watching it will i say if the movie sucked or not.

As for Megan Foxes fans, trust me there are millions out there. There are far more Megan Fox forums & fansites out there than there are TMNT forums. There are ppl who will watch this movie just for her. i've seen loads of ppl say that Even at the transformers red carpet events, far more ppl were interested in Megan Fox than the movie itself.

I this is a bit different from Transformers, they are talking about changing the turtles whole origin not just how they look. I wouldn't exactly call a year "ages ago", yes the script was old, but we still don't know what the current script looks like. I'm still don't know where you are getting this idea that Fox will sell tickets. Yes the first two Transformers films did well but the third film without her did the best. This Is 40 did ok but Fox wasn't the star of that film. Every other film Fox did bombed at the box office.

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Originally Posted by The Stryker

There was never any credibility to the franchise.

I don't see how it has any less credibility than any other comic book franchise out there.

*Jephael* · 03-15-2013, 01:32 PM

Some of you people really need to get a grip! I mean honestly, is a dumb movie really worth pissing and moaning over?!

~~Vegita-San~~ · 03-15-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

Some of you people really need to get a grip! I mean honestly, is a dumb movie really worth pissing and moaning over?!

you're on a message board in 2013, and you really need to ask that question ;o).....

i look at MB threads now and start bets on how long posts can go without a pissing match ;o)

saul · 03-15-2013, 02:17 PM

I'm just glad that this project doesn't seem like another stupid PG kiddie movie. Let them run it into the ground. If that's what it takes to bring the Turtles into a new PG-13 realm, then so be it.

**Jester** · 03-15-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

Some of you people really need to get a grip! I mean honestly, is a dumb movie really worth pissing and moaning over?!

When a movie has the potential to draw a bigger audience than any kids' TV show and outside the "big 2" comic book it's worth griping about.

*snake* · 03-15-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Taking it with a grain of salt.... the movie will be made for a broad audience. Actual turtle fans are not the main demographic.

Why make a turtles movie without having he target audience being turtles FANS?

**Jester** · 03-15-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Why make a turtles movie without having he target audience being turtles FANS?

Because we're, sadly, a pretty small group. To fill seats they have to apeal to those people who happily bought tickets to movies like Transformers 1-3 and Battleship.
(EDIT: Then again, Battleship bombed....so.)

*The Stryker* · 03-15-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Why make a turtles movie without having he target audience being turtles FANS?

Because that target audience is insanely small?

03-15-2013, 11:15 AM	#47
ryukenden Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 383	I'm kind of looking forward to seeing if the Turtles will actually use their weapons the way they were actually designed for. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if Megan Fox's April has a scene where her clothing gets torn up by Mousers while trying to evade them until the Turtles rescue her. The Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street remakes did kind of stay true to the source material but they were seen as inferior to the original product. Particularly Jackie Earle Haley is no Robert Englund being the most common. Last edited by ryukenden; 03-15-2013 at 11:23 AM.

03-15-2013, 12:57 PM	#50
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	I'm curious how long Evan Daugherty has been working on his "current draft" that Deadline reported on a couple of weeks back. Inquisitr also made mention of him putting "his own unique spin" on the story. __________________

03-15-2013, 01:32 PM	#54
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Some of you people really need to get a grip! I mean honestly, is a dumb movie really worth pissing and moaning over?! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

03-15-2013, 10:26 AM	#45
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,823	Nobody wants to see a slutty April O'Neil.

03-15-2013, 11:42 AM	#49
Bob Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK, England Posts: 546	All this "We want to make a film for the fans" is something they all say when any adaptation is getting made. It’s not just Eastman who is guilty of that. The harsh reality is, the fans are the last group of people they care about. There are a whole host of reasons for that, the main one being that they want to make a film that will please the majority rather than the minority (and no, by saying that I'm not advocating the whole alien thing. I'm just speaking generally). Another reason is that they know full well that, even with all the moaning and whatnot, there is a very good chance the majority of the fans will bite the bullet and buy a ticket anyway.

03-15-2013, 01:02 PM	#51
plasticturtle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 224	Yeah I'm pretty sure they said that about the Transformers films too and look how they turned out. A lot of longtime fans hated them. I kind of enjoyed them for what they were but that may be because I didn't give a damn about Transformers as a kid and wasn't as offended about the portrayal of the characters. And I don't really give a damn about Megan Fox either. All I really want from a TMNT movie is to see the TMNT portrayed accurately. If they do them right I'm sure I'll love it. But I don't know how I'll react if they pull a bayformers with the film.

03-15-2013, 02:17 PM	#56
saul Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 161	I'm just glad that this project doesn't seem like another stupid PG kiddie movie. Let them run it into the ground. If that's what it takes to bring the Turtles into a new PG-13 realm, then so be it.