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MajorViolence · 05-08-2014, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

Yeah your right its much more exaggerated in the movie version

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...0emwfris0s.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LppcxztTZ0...s1600/14-1.jpg
Know tell me which one is longer and more pronounced SMH

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...t8lfqhmpou.jpg
Yup looks like a full head of hair to me

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2wk44kZtRE...0/origin04.jpg

I'm not seeing a top knot in that image of him as a rat. That's a giant leap toward the "deliberate and pronounced" caricature I was talking about.

SwiftNinjaFox · 05-08-2014, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

I wonder who?

Well, generic stereotypes are pretty Michael Bay, so I'm going with his involvement on making Splinter more cliche in appearance.

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And now we know that splinter came from lab, so i ask you then, where does japanese features come from, why does he have a japanese mustache and hair?

But it still doesen't make sense...
If splinter mutated with mustache and hair, why didn't the turtles? They are teanagers, they should have facial hair...

I'm beginning to agree that they may well be going with an IDW angle of possible reincarnation. It's the only way I can conceive of Splinter and the Turtles having any Japanese cultural influence.

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Originally Posted by MajorViolence

That's what bugs me most about the Splinter design. It's just so ridiculously convenient that Splinter's mutation gave him just the right sprouts of hair to grow a top knot and Fu Manchu 'stache.

To be fair, maybe he's let his fur grow out intentionally to develop the style over the past 17ish years?

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Originally Posted by slingtheory

are you talking about the movie or the comics because in the comics Aprils father did not create the ooze. he was only a research scientist studying it before he had some kind of accident. the ooze had been around for a very long time before than and came from the ultrom homeworld. also has it been confirmed he creates the ooze in the movie. apparently he was working with sachs to "create heros" but I don't think what he actually did has been revealed yet.

Well, we don't know what his involvement is so far. We just know he was involved in a project to supposedly create heroes. How the ooze came to be and what his involvement is remains unclear thus far.

slingtheory · 05-08-2014, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

He was "involved" with the ooze
A tie they left in the movie, whether or not what shredder says is true, which many see to think its is. there are ties to many different sources being used through out this movie Just from the trailers alone.

they would really have to expand that involvement for the movie because in the comic it begins and ends with studying it for awhile to see what it can do. so far its been a pretty minor detail. and I'm not seeing so many ties to different sources. mostly just the fred wolf toon and maybe the nick toon with the shell riser reference and the turtles body types I guess

MajorViolence · 05-08-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

To be fair, maybe he's let his fur grow out intentionally to develop the style over the past 17ish years?

I don't want to live in a world where Splinter shaves.

*samxsteal* · 05-08-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by slingtheory

they would really have to expand that involvement for the movie because in the comic it begins and ends with studying it for awhile to see what it can do. so far its been a pretty minor detail. and I'm not seeing so many ties to different sources. mostly just the fred wolf toon and maybe the nick toon with the shell riser reference and the turtles body types I guess

Shredders Involvement in the creation of the turtle-wolf series
Aprils father Albeit small-IDW
Japanese mural-2k3/ IDW
Shredder possibly being urtom shredder-2k3
Utroms- Mirage/2k3/IDW/Nick(krang)
Lap Rat origin- IDW
April, Vernon, other characters- Wolf
KArai- Mirage/2k3/nick/IDW/
Don tech-Image

Kevin Specifically Referencing using multiple tmnt source to create new version of the turtles while talking about this movie production.

Kevin Specifically Saying the this movie it "heavily Tied in the current TMNT mythos" There is plenty people just wont except it

Just like chances are your going to write this off as well as other that fine but it doesn't mean its not their

~~electric_sheep~~ · 05-08-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I don't want to live in a world where Splinter shaves.

He got hair extentions, i wanna see in the middle of the fight his hair band falling off and his glorious 5 hairs flailin in thw wind, Samurai Jack style only, you know, with less hair...

slingtheory · 05-08-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

There's a thin line between making someting look good and going so overboard that it becomes a caricature, i think that this movie crossed that line...

seconded. i'll give you that the fu Manchu beard thing has been done before but that's usually where it stops. I just don't like that it looks like at one point it looks like they intended to stop here:

before it was decided to go full on this

SwiftNinjaFox · 05-08-2014, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I don't want to live in a world where Splinter shaves.

Well look at the photo. Obviously he doesn't.

MajorViolence · 05-08-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

He got hair extentions, i wanna see in the middle of the fight his hair band falling off and his glorious 5 hairs flailin in thw wind, Samurai Jack style only, you know, with less hair...

During the fight with Shredder, he lets his hair down, and Donnie pops in from offscreen to say "OH **** THE SCRUNCHIE'S COMIN' OFF! YOU DONE ****ED UP NOW!"

SwiftNinjaFox · 05-08-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

Shredders Involvement in the creation of the turtle-wolf series
Aprils father Albeit small-IDW
Japanese mural-2k3/ IDW
Shredder possibly being urtom shredder-2k3
Utroms- Mirage/2k3/IDW/Nick(krang)
Lap Rat origin- IDW
April, Vernon, other characters- Wolf
KArai- Mirage/2k3/nick/IDW/
Don tech-Image

I'd scratch the Utrom references. Currently we don't really have anything to suggest that's going to be in the movie at all.

Where's the mural connection to 2k3 and IDW?

Mostly it's Fred Wolf influences with a splash of comic here and there and a lot of original design.

I'll add one in place of Utrom Shredder (no foundation for that yet). Shredder using modern technology connected to ancient origins. That's a big 2k3 plot device. Less so in IDW, but there too.

Karai could just be a fan nod rather than any real inspiration from earlier sources. Wait and see for now to really get a feel for that.

*samxsteal* · 05-08-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by slingtheory

seconded. i'll give you that the fu Manchu beard thing has been done before but that's usually where it stops. I just don't like that it looks like at one point it looks like they intended to stop here:
http://fdzeta.com/imgcache/377430dz.jpg

before it was decided to go full on this

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-3956037..._2272_45032893

So what your saying is this is fine

But as soon as you put a Top knot on him and its suddenly to far??
Something that stand for honor and tradition, With heavy influences in Japanese culture and history, suddenly becomes to much?

slingtheory · 05-08-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

Shredders Involvement in the creation of the turtle-wolf series
Aprils father Albeit small-IDW
Japanese mural-2k3/ IDW
Shredder possibly being urtom shredder-2k3
Utroms- Mirage/2k3/IDW/Nick(krang)
Lap Rat origin- IDW
April, Vernon, other characters- Wolf
KArai- Mirage/2k3/nick/IDW/
Don tech-Image

Kevin Specifically Referencing using multiple tmnt source to create new version of the turtles while talking about this movie production.

Kevin Specifically Saying the this movie it "heavily Tied in the current TMNT mythos" There is plenty people just wont except it

Just like chances are your going to write this off as well as other that fine but it doesn't mean its not their

well no I won't write it off ill just say some of these are more speculation and not really concrete. also I don't think karai qualifies as a reference as she's been a main character in every tmnt universe but one. and that thing on donnies back does not look like a shout out to image

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

So what your saying is this is fine
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LppcxztTZ0...s1600/14-1.jpg
But as soon as you put a Top knot on him and its suddenly to far??
Something that stand for honor and tradition, With heavy influences in Japanese culture and history, suddenly becomes to much?

no im not saying that's fine either as its much more exaggerated there than it is usually. I'm saying that that's approaching the stereotype line and the movie just hopped over it riding a motorcycle while dunking a basketball. and it may stand for honor and tradition but the idea of a giant rat doing up the top of his fur in a top knot is pretty silly

MajorViolence · 05-08-2014, 10:14 AM

I'm not really sure what this list is meant to prove. Was anyone claiming this movie has nothing in common with any previous versions of the turtles?

1984TMNT · 05-08-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaAF

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps4spcjg7z.jpg

Uh-oh.............are those two red glowing eyes I see in his abdomen? UGH. Be ready for it, guys and girls - this Shredder is a Utrom.

Trust me.

MastahShredder · 05-08-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MajorViolence

During the fight with Shredder, he lets his hair down, and Donnie pops in from offscreen to say "OH **** THE SCRUNCHIE'S COMIN' OFF! YOU DONE ****ED UP NOW!"

Going by the lighting, I'm thinking the fight takes place in the lair. At what point in the film though? Shredder and Sach's are going to be two separate entities so maybe this Shredder exists already but we don't know the back-story or who he is. Then the pieces of the puzzle start to come together..

MastahShredder · 05-08-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

Uh-oh.............are those two red glowing eyes I see in his abdomen? UGH. Be ready for it, guys and girls - this Shredder is a Utrom.

Trust me.

Sure does look like it.

*samxsteal* · 05-08-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I'd scratch the Utrom references. Currently we don't really have anything to suggest that's going to be in the movie at all.

Where's the mural connection to 2k3 and IDW?

Utroms in the painting, Possible Reincarnation influences

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Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Mostly it's Fred Wolf influences with a splash of comic here and there and a lot of original design.

Sure I guess you can saw they went that route But influences are still something and means they are pulling from other sources

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Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I'll add one in place of Utrom Shredder (no foundation for that yet). Shredder using modern technology connected to ancient origins. That's a big 2k3 plot device. Less so in IDW, but there too.

There you go this is a huge possibility

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Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Karai could just be a fan nod rather than any real inspiration from earlier sources. Wait and see for now to really get a feel for that.

And shredder could be a macguffin(contract aren't an indication most big name movies do that now and day regardless of character just in case)

But seeing as she had been Seen In several Instance Subway, Lair break in, And turtle capture, Chances are shes important, my question is she shredder daughter in this(you argue not cuz hes white) is she adopted is she Splinters(if the script page was not final product and he actually starts human).

MastahShredder · 05-08-2014, 10:22 AM

What the heck is that huge thing on his hand. Looks really weird.

1984TMNT · 05-08-2014, 10:22 AM

He is 100% a Utrom in this movie.

Whether or not an "Actual" human Shredder exists in this universe is what is unknown at the moment.

*samxsteal* · 05-08-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

Uh-oh.............are those two red glowing eyes I see in his abdomen? UGH. Be ready for it, guys and girls - this Shredder is a Utrom.

Trust me.

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Originally Posted by MastahShredder

http://i.imgur.com/0IpQv34.png

Sure does look like it.

Agreed And i think it might be very likely

Does any one else Notice that that's looks like a drawing that Eastman drew
Seeing as he sat down with the director and drew photo and explain the entirety of the turtles History with him showing him photos and drawing for him, I think is likely

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MajorViolence Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 555	I'm not really sure what this list is meant to prove. Was anyone claiming this movie has nothing in common with any previous versions of the turtles? __________________

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1984TMNT Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 566	He is 100% a Utrom in this movie. Whether or not an "Actual" human Shredder exists in this universe is what is unknown at the moment. __________________ Try to rely on YOUR, Turtle Power!