Future Mirage Influence + New Characters!

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Jester

Yep. All 3 together. Same with the Shredder Mutants (well...2 together in that case. 4 Armed Clone is AWOL).

I find it ironic in the 4kids line they made the 4-armed Shredder clone and the lobster one....and they skipped/never made the small one.

Yet in the Nick line they make the small one and lobster one...yet skipped the 4-armed one.

Like what the hell? Why does Playmates purposely leave off one of the 3 Shredder clones? I might just buy the small one and put it with my 4kids Shredder clones.

[shredder orokusaki]

Do you think that they might use the IDW orign for the triceratons and Fugitoid? Neutrinos are mentioned in the Danger oft he ooze game this means that they are coming to the show.

[spookycookies]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I find it ironic in the 4kids line they made the 4-armed Shredder clone and the lobster one....and they skipped/never made the small one.

Yet in the Nick line they make the small one and lobster one...yet skipped the 4-armed one.

Like what the hell? Why does Playmates purposely leave off one of the 3 Shredder clones? I might just buy the small one and put it with my 4kids Shredder clones.

I can see Shrimp & Crab being a two pack like the rep said, but Goro Shredder being his own figure in a later wave.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by spookycookies

I can see Shrimp & Crab being a two pack like the rep said, but Goro Shredder being his own figure in a later wave.

This. Shiva-Shredder's too big to pack with another Shredder.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Powder

We now also have confirmation on Commander Mozar, the Triceraton.

What? Where?

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Xav

What? Where?

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=396&itemid=24238
• Fall release includes: Monkey Brains, Mondo Gecko, Atilla, Savage Mikey, Napoleon Bonafrog, Dark Beaver, Dire Beaver, Dimension X Turtles, Mozar the Triceraton, Mutant Shredders and Fugitoid

[Candy Kappa]

We get a Savanti figure, but no Renet?

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Powder

We now also have confirmation on Commander Mozar, the Triceraton.

And the news keeps getting better. Too bad we didn't get a look at the toy.

[ToTheNines]

Mozar was mentioned line what? One time in the Mirage books? I'm gonna chalk this up as another 2k3 reference

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

We get a Savanti figure, but no Renet?

Girls don't sell, remember?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Mozar was mentioned line what? One time in the Mirage books? I'm gonna chalk this up as another 2k3 reference

In case he has a robot arm, then it's a 2k3 reference.

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome news. I admit, I didn't like the Turtles in Space arc from the 4Kids series, but I have faith that the Nick team will do a good job with this, so I'm stoked.

[CyberCubed]

Wasn't Mozar the main general Triceraton in the 4kids series? The one with the metal arm who fought the Turtles the most?

[Metalwolf]

That will be great if Mozar shows. Finally an end in site to to the overused OT stuff!

[Chris]

Wasn't it said that the Kraang stuff would wrap up this season? (I could be totally off on this)

If so then the TMNT going back to Dimension X, Fugitoid and the Triceratons could be the end of season 3? Leaving Shredder and the Foot to be dealt with in season 4 maybe?

[Papenbrook]

No. I wanted the show to be more original.

[shredder orokusaki]

Μοre original? Βut it is already enough original. It has lot of new characters including Tiger claw Chris Xever Kraang e.t.c It has more original stuff than 2003 and 87 elements. IDW also has Bebop Rocksteady Krang and Hun but this dosent mean that it is not original

[snake]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

No. I wanted the show to be more original.

What does that even mean?

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by snake

What does that even mean?

I think he/she means that the show should focus on making original content instead putting mandatory characters and story lines from old TMNT shows,movies, tv and in this case the original comic book.

Now I will admit that I am on the fence when it comes to having complete original content vs re using characters and story lines but making some tweaks and changes.

I mean we really want to have some of those things revisit because they have such iconic moments that stay with us to this very day.

And I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't care if we never get to see fugitoid, Renet, Usagi Yojimbo, Neutrinos, and story lines like The River, Exile to NorthHampton, Return to New York and City at War, because the greatest excitement to have as a fan is to see old ideas turned a new.

There are even times when we want characters and story lines to remain same beat per beat because we, the fans, really liked what was done originally and any thing change will fell often feel unnecessary to us only. I think this reason why episodes like "The Good, Bad, and Casey Jones" and "Invasion part 2" are hold in such high praise because they have scenes that are straight up homages to the movie and Leo micro comic book.

However I think it important to have new content and I think one of the riskiest things to do with establish franchise is to make new content in it and I applaud writers that has the balls to do such as that because making new content can be really intimating if fans cry foul when they having see "character X" yet.

But when those risks pay off, more fuel is add to the mythos and keeps franchise from dying.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

I think he/she means that the show should focus on making original content instead putting mandatory characters and story lines from old TMNT shows,movies, tv and in this case the original comic book.

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However I think it important to have new content and I think one of the riskiest things to do with establish franchise is to make new content in it and I applaud writers that has the balls to do such as that because making new content can be really intimating if fans cry foul when they having see "character X" yet.

But when those risks pay off, more fuel is add to the mythos and keeps franchise from dying.

Problem is though is that TMNT has a lot of fans right now demanding straight homages to the OT and certain 'mandatory' plotlines each iteration, making writers afraid to deviate from these which ends up having everything feeling kind of samey. There is a lot of things the Nick show could have done, but people wanted certain characters come hell and high water, and so interesting OCs were shoved into the background (like Xever) to make way for Bebop and Rocksteady. (I'm going to give B and R a chance, but they better be way different then those annoying and moronic guys in the OT.)

People don't want change. They want to see the OT over and over again. They want endless straight cameos of the OT, they want tons of 80's references, and whenever possible, they want Turtles Forever-like wrapping up to a series so they can have the OT cameo some more. I know it sounds like I don't like the OT, I do, but it's starting to lose it's specialness for me by being demanded for by other fans again and again and thus overused so much.

If they can get away from that and be open to not having to see certain characters every time, then we could get so many more new characters and storylines that would expand beyond the comfort zones. Otherwise the writers are being bogged down by this endless demand for more sameness, and it's getting to the point of constricting the series.