Sick Of All These Useless Mutants/Characters

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

When the show was still doing little homage bits, I thought it was actually cool as those little moments here and there felt special.


The bolded part is when I started feeling a dissatisfaction with it. I didn't mind the small homages (in fact I loved them) but there is a point where there is such thing as overkill. I think the producers actually made a big mistake in including a direct OT cameo in Wormquake, because at that point it looked like they were almost saying that at this point they lost confidence in the show. The 'overkill' bit is dead on, because now they aren't even trying to be creative.

With this I 1000% agree. It's why I am protesting so much of the OT inclusions now, because they're killing this show's creativity.

I didn't know there were people doing all of that stuff to get Band R included, wow! There is one point of asking nicely, and there is another when folks start acting like turds about it. I admit I like B and R here, but mainly it's because they aren't the B and R of the OT. They never wanted to become mutants, they feel like they will backstab Shredder at some point, and they hopefully won't be stupid. The only bad thing is they will probably overshadow Xever and Bradford fora time, but I'm hoping that this leads to a rivalry and something interesting.

Same here. I do like the show overall, and I can't wait to see where it goes. I think I just wish they'd start pulling form other sources (or come up with their own ideas) more often.

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

I guess it just depends on how well the reception of the characters from the OT get but for me, even the likes of Krang and Rocksteady & Bebop have a crazy fan-base like say, Harley Quinn does. I don't know how I feel about canon immigrants in general but this show does it to the point where it's pandering. I admit I was happy to see Hun announced for this series just so the 2k3 can get SOME exposure but when Ciro said the words "we had to please the 2k3 fans somehow", it felt like a huge slap in the face to me since I love that series so much. But I wouldn't want the show to pander to that series either.

The thing about this show is that I feel that it tries to be a bit like the OT without actually being anything like the OT. When it does it's own thing, it works fine for the most part. But to me there's more to the Ninja Turtles franchise than just mutants and nostalgia. If they want to add mutants that's great but don't rely primarily on just those type of aspects of this show. And as far as nostalgia goes, this is suppose to be a new iteration for the new generation, not the old.

I know I sound like a hypocrite when I say this but I get super excited when ever they add an aspect of the Mirage comics into the show but this is also because I would love for this property to be realized as a comic book IP and not a cartoon.

More or less this... And hey been while? Happy to announce I'm officially apart of the United States Navy.

[Gunpowder]

Originally Posted by Gunstar_Red

Despite what many people say, I have zero problems with the 'monster/mutant of the day' formula. It's the least of this show's problems. I do think that monsters/mutants should be killed off in the same episode they appeared in unless there's an absolute need for them in future episodes.

This all the way. I think literally every mutant has undergone that "I'm still alive" sequence at the end of its episode.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Technogeek29

More or less this... And hey been while? Happy to announce I'm officially apart of the United States Navy.

Congratulations! ^_^

[xenopokemon]

Originally Posted by Gunpowder

I think literally every mutant has undergone that "I'm still alive" sequence at the end of its episode.

I hate the I'm still alive crap. It's a really bad way to end episodes imo. Cheesy, and you don't see them unless ten episodes or next season later.

[Gunpowder]

Originally Posted by xenopokemon

But I hate the I'm still alive crap. It's a really bad way to end episodes imo. Cheesy, and you don't see them unless ten episodes or next season later.

Why the "But"? I completely agree with you - it's cheesy and predictable as hell. Would be a lot cooler/more suspenseful if it only happened with important mutants, as opposed to almost every single one of them.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by xenopokemon

But I hate the I'm still alive crap. It's a really bad way to end episodes imo. Cheesy, and you don't see them unless ten episodes or next season later.

I'm thinking a little bit of it is because they might want to use that character later, but I'm thinking the real reason might be that they will get blowback from soccer moms complaining that the show has too much death in it, and thus is too 'violent.'

[Konchadunga]

For all the accusations this show gets of being a retread of the 1987 show for its MOTWs, that show had one thing going for it over this one: It didn't pretend to be advancing some larger story arc. Fred Wolf TMNT was a low-investment show; if you enjoyed its usual schtick, you could tune into most episodes and know what was happening, and if you didn't enjoy it, you could turn it right off again without the dread that you'd miss something much better happening. This show teases developments frequently but it's hard to know when they will actually get teased, let alone actually happen. It feels like it's wasting your time.

That is, unfortunately, a trend I've started noticing a lot in modern TV serials. Scooby Doo: Mystery Inc was basically the standard Scooby fair with a Lovecraftian undertone running throughout, only to be escalated into completion in the last few episodes, Young Justice, as much as I liked it in many regards, had a few too many characters with a few too many individual arcs to follow, and Gotham is frequently horrible in that way; packing its episodes full of short conversation scenes that play to the ongoing narrative but can't entertain because they're just short conversation scenes, while blowing much of the rest of its time on VOTWs--it's a shame because I love the show's art direction, and some characters are very captivating.

[leogan]

idk, i see an over all story and character development in almost every episode.

[xenopokemon]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I'm thinking a little bit of it is because they might want to use that character later, but I'm thinking the real reason might be that they will get blowback from soccer moms complaining that the show has too much death in it, and thus is too 'violent.'

Probably. Given the fact that some mutants are human before mutation, killing them would be like killing a human being. There is no excuse if the villainous monsters like Chimera or the Squirrelanoid can die, no moral standards protecting them.