Sick Of All These Useless Mutants/Characters

[xenopokemon]

Snakeweed. Squirrelanoid. Punk Frogs. The Creep. Turducken. Spider Bytez. Newtralizer. Mutagen Man. Parasitic Wasp. The Fungus. Dr. Rockwell. Pigeon Pete. Rat King, the Dream Beavers. What do they all have in common? They all appeared in a few episodes, sometimes even just one, and then drifted off into one of two voids. The first one is the "Void of Unlikely Return" This is where Punk Frogs, Creep, Turducken, the Fungus and Parasitic Wasp fall into. Because of their current circumstance, it's nigh impossible or unlikely for them to come back. Creep? Last we saw of him was stuck in a jar in West Virginia (EDIT: NORTH HAMPTON sorry I don't pay attention). And I had such high hopes for him. Punk Frogs went to live in Louisiana, so we aren't going to see them unless plot tells us to. Parasitic Wasp, well.. they died. Save for one that left the mutant holding cells in Metalhead Rewired. It may have been recaptured by the Kraang after they took over New York. What about Turducken? Under some rocks in North Hampton with the slim possibility of it returning. But is it going to fly all the way to New York without getting spotted or shot at? The answer is no. Finally we have the Fungus, who was most likely obliterated by the light. The second void is the "Void of Kaptured by the Kraang" Everyone else pretty much falls into this category. Maybe Newtralizer and Mutagen Man will be seen soon, because mutants like Leatherhead and Slash have been or will be central to the plot in Season 3 Spider Bytez made one appearance in Season 1, then again in Metalhead Rewired of the second season, and, like I presume, is now enslaved by the Kraang. Squirrelanoids? One appearance and then at the end of that episode they were in the sewers attacking anyone unlucky enough to come by. Since the Kraang came through the sewers, they were probably captured. Doctor Rockwell, Monkey Brains, Metalhead Rewired, now probably enslaved by Kraang. Pigeon Pete. I think he appeared in New Girl in Town? Don't quote me on that, but he flew through the portal in Metalhead Rewired and seeing how he is pretty weak, was without a doubt captured by the Kraang. Now, Rat King is different and probably isn't captured by the Kraang but more than likely he is dead. Unless he survived the fall. But Nick doesn't seem afraid to kill off characters, exhibit A being Justin and exhibit(s) B (C and D) being the Shredder Clones. Dream Beavers, oh lord. No way they are making another appearance. And I liked the concept. Well, thanks for reading the post. What do you all think? Any characters I missed or shouldn't be in one of the voids? I'm open to input.

[Gunstar_Red]

Despite what many people say, I have zero problems with the 'monster/mutant of the day' formula. It's the least of this show's problems. I do think that monsters/mutants should be killed off in the same episode they appeared in unless there's an absolute need for them in future episodes.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by xenopokemon

Snakeweed. Squirrelanoid. Punk Frogs. The Creep. Turducken. Spider Bytez. Newtralizer. Mutagen Man. Parasitic Wasp. The Fungus. Dr. Rockwell. Pigeon Pete. Rat King, the Dream Beavers. What do they all have in common? They all appeared in a few episodes, sometimes even just one, and then drifted off into one of two voids. The first one is the "Void of Unlikely Return" This is where Punk Frogs, Creep, Turducken, the Fungus and Parasitic Wasp fall into. Because of their current circumstance, it's nigh impossible or unlikely for them to come back. Creep? Last we saw of him was stuck in a jar in West Virginia. And I had such high hopes for him. Punk Frogs went to live in Louisiana, so we aren't going to see them unless plot tells us to. Parasitic Wasp, well.. they died. Save for one that left the mutant holding cells in Metalhead Rewired. It may have been recaptured by the Kraang after they took over New York. What about Turducken? Under some rocks in West Virginia, with the slim possibility of it returning. But is it going to fly all the way to New York without getting spotted or shot at? The answer is no. Finally we have the Fungus, who was most likely obliterated by the light. The second void is the "Void of Kaptured by the Kraang" Everyone else pretty much falls into this category. Maybe Newtralizer and Mutagen Man will be seen soon, because mutants like Leatherhead and Slash have been or will be central to the plot in Season 3 Spider Bytez made one appearance in Season 1, then again in Metalhead Rewired of the second season, and, like I presume, is now enslaved by the Kraang. Squirrelanoids? One appearance and then at the end of that episode they were in the sewers attacking anyone unlucky enough to come by. Since the Kraang came through the sewers, they were probably captured. Doctor Rockwell, Monkey Brains, Metalhead Rewired, now probably enslaved by Kraang. Pigeon Pete. I think he appeared in New Girl in Town? Don't quote me on that, but he flew through the portal in Metalhead Rewired and seeing how he is pretty weak, was without a doubt captured by the Kraang. Now, Rat King is different and probably isn't captured by the Kraang but more than likely he is dead. Unless he survived the fall. But Nick doesn't seem afraid to kill off characters, exhibit A being Justin and exhibit(s) B (C and D) being the Shredder Clones. Dream Beavers, oh lord. No way they are making another appearance. And I liked the concept. Well, thanks for reading the post. What do you all think? Any characters I missed or shouldn't be in one of the voids? I'm open to input.

Holy Wall of Text batman that was a eyesore to read. Nonetheless The Beavers & Frogs just debuted this season so don't count them out just yet Rat King was used heavily in the first 2 seasons.

[BubblyShell22]

The Chimera broke out of the rocks, so it's likely it will return again. Not all mutants are one-off things. And they weren't in West Virginia either. They were in North Hampton. You really need to pay attention more. And the Dream Beavers were sent through a portal but that doesn't mean we won't see them again.

[Creativemind]

The random mutants are one of my favorite things about the 2015 series because it brings me back to what I liked about the original.

[neatoman]

It would at least be nice if they had decided to make one of two things instead:

A. Make them something other than mutants.

B. Gave more of them a bigger role instead of just being monsters of the week.

[Ravenshell]

Originally Posted by neatoman

It would at least be nice if they had decided to make one of two things instead:

A. Make them something other than mutants.

Like Bigfoot, or extraplanar beavers.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Ravenshell

Like Bigfoot, or extraplanar beavers.

Well the vast majority of these monsters are still mutants.

[TigerClaw]

I wouldn't be surprise, if some of the mutants show up during the final episode of this season, To help aid the Turtles in there battle with the Kraang. We got Mondo Gecko coming up soon.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Creativemind

The random mutants are one of my favorite things about the 2015 series because it brings me back to what I liked about the original.

That's the problem, IMO. All the pandering to nostalgia is a serious wrench in the gears of this property.

Originally Posted by neatoman

It would at least be nice if they had decided to make one of two things instead:

A. Make them something other than mutants.

B. Gave more of them a bigger role instead of just being monsters of the week.

Agreed.

[mexichrist83]

I completely get where the OP is coming from. However, the main problem isn't so much that there are too many mutants. The problem is that the writers are not bothering at all (so it seems) to resolve the mutations of these characters or creatures. A mutant is created and instead of "killing" them, finding a way to explain their disappearance for the time being until they show up again in the series or find a way to return them back to their former selves they just somehow come back to life after being defeated by the turtles or they are just left to exist in the world.

One of the things I LOVED about the episode "Metalhead Rewired" is that it did provide an explanation as to where these mutants have been this whole time and why we have not seen them for a while. This made me feel like the writers did not completely forget about this corner they may have been writing themselves into by creating so many mutants that are still out there. I still want to believe that the writers will come back to some of these characters and even give them resolutions to their mutations. Unfortunately, so far that doesn't seem to be in the cards just yet.

[Creativemind]

Originally Posted by Powder

That's the problem, IMO. All the pandering to nostalgia is a serious wrench in the gears of this property.

Some would say that rebooting the Ninja Turtles to begin with is pandering to nostalgia. When did nostalgia become a negative thing anyway? You could always just stop watching if you don't like what they are doing. That's what I did with the 2k3 series.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Creativemind

Some would say that rebooting the Ninja Turtles to begin with is pandering to nostalgia. When did nostalgia become a negative thing anyway? You could always just stop watching if you don't like what they are doing. That's what I did with the 2k3 series.

Why did you stop watching a good cartoon?

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Why did you stop watching a good cartoon?

Well It may be good to some people, but not so good to others. (I can see the strengths and the weaknesses the show has)

also different strokes for different folks.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Creativemind

Some would say that rebooting the Ninja Turtles to begin with is pandering to nostalgia. When did nostalgia become a negative thing anyway? You could always just stop watching if you don't like what they are doing. That's what I did with the 2k3 series.

& those people would be reaching...

Pandering to nostalgia is usually a matter of appeasing crybabies who can't accept change. Mind you, I use the word "pandering", because it suggests people are demanding certain things. Giving people a dose of nostalgia once in a while, is fine. You tickle a persons sentimental sensibilities, they have their warm & fuzzies, life goes on. You put in a nod here, an homage there, great, you have respected the roots & acknowledged the fans. But when you start to put these things/themes/whatever into almost every single episode, it's like "Hey guys! Look! Here's another one of those things you vaguely remember from you childhood, please don't stop watching!" which is ridiculous. I'm not saying the Nick series does that on a whole (though season 3 has very much felt that way to me), but there's no denying there's been a fair share of Fred Wolf overkill in all 3 new iterations, & that's a trend I wish would cease immediately.

Nostalgia is always a negative thing when it comes to how it affects the mechanics of a popular series, such as TMNT. It stifles creativity, innovation, new ideas, etc. Take Bebop & Rocksteady, for example. We're getting them because a bunch of casual fans on social networking sites bitched & moaned that they wouldn't give the new show the time of day because it didn't have B&R in it. These are people too closed-minded to give a chance to one of their supposed favorite properties because it wasn't EXACTLY the same as it ever was. Why should those people EVER have their opinions taken into consideration (for any other reason besides the higher ups capitalizing on their viewership)? Let's say you're an artist. You're passing out flyers for an exhibit you'll be doing soon. Some guy walks up to you yelling (which is what I assume caps lock translates to in reality) "I WOULDNT GO TO THIS GAY BULLSH*T SHOW OF YOURS IF YOU PAID ME. IT LOOKS REALLY STUPID, WOW. WHY DOES THE GUY IN THAT PORTRAIT HAVE GAP TEETH? WTF. DOESN'T EVEN HAVE CRAYON DRAWINGS, MAKE SOME F*CKING CRAYON DRAWINGS. YOU ARE COMPLETELY RUINING MY ABILITY TO ENJOY ALL ART, OLD & NEW." would you spend the following weeks creating portraits in colored wax to please that jerk, or would you instead only humor those who have shown you support? That jerk who loves Crayola, he's the Bebop & Rocksteady fans, & they went ahead & drew him a picture. But he's not the one who waits on baited breath for a new episode, buying the toys, hash-tagging on twitter, oh no. He's off somewhere banging his head against a concrete wall to a new Taylor Swift record, probably.

I have no reason to stop watching the show, it's a great show. I would at times prefer they do things a different way, but that doesn't mean I don't like what they do most of the time. Why did you give up on the 4kids series? Did the lack of pizza & incompetence bother you?

[CyberCubed]

A lot of the mutants Nick is using are all-new characters though. The Creep, Dream Beavers, Speed Demon, Bigfoot, the Chimera bird, etc.

Can't say they're nostalgia pandering with the mutants when many of them are all new.

[Powder]

Like I said, it's a problem in general, not with the Nick series specifically, or it's mutants in particular.

But, one could argue that the who is less important than the what, in that, it doesn't matter if it's Muckman or Turducken, it's still a MOTW, which takes cues from the OT (at times). That format is the same. Bebop & Rocksteady's inclusion is 100% pandering. Little else is, though, that's true. As I said before, it's an issue across the board, so when I brought up pandering, I meant it was irksome in all of the new versions.

Let it be stated for the record, however, that I very very rarely complain about the Nick series, & even these things that I speak on now, don't really bother me.

[Gunstar_Red]

Unfortunately, I think the mutants are the most creative thing they did in this version (other than tweaking the story a bit: Miwa, April, the Utroms). Many of them are new with really nice designs. If anything, they should drop most to all of the cast (including April and Casey) and made a completely different one surrounding the Turtles if we want something original. Heck, even dropping Splinter would have been interesting. The series could have started when Splinter just died. They could learning how to cope from losing him and trying to finish their training alone (with disasterous/hilarious/whatever results).

So I argue, it's who, not what, that is making the show too familiar. And that they need to start killing off mutants and other characters. ^^;

[leogan]

at first (first season) i was worried we would only get one shot mutants wrapped up in one episode. but then i noticed even if the mutant didn't return right away or at all other things from the episode carry over to tell more of the bigger story. even some of the episodes that don't and are more or less "filler" episodes i find enjoyable because of the characters , the interaction between the turtles and april and such.
i also have no problem with thrown backs from the original series, it has been done well with out trying to copy what has come before.

[xenopokemon]

Originally Posted by Gunstar_Red

So I argue, it's who, not what, that is making the show too familiar. And that they need to start killing off mutants and other characters. ^^;

I most certainly agree. Killing off mutants would be a good idea. They killed off Speed Demon, which I think was one of the most unnecessary MOTW and overall mutants ever. They killed off the Shredder clones, which is "good". They would have only been things to see during a breach of Shredder's Base so it's not like we are missing something. They failed to kill off other mutants like Chimera/Turducken or the Squirrelanoids but it's probably a matter of if they were human to begin with. Because if you killed a mutant that was human, that would probably be "wrong" to do, especially on a Nick Show.