Anyone else not okay with the turtles able to pull their heads into their shells ?

Splinter the boss · 07-16-2015, 09:45 PM

I hate when the turtles do that. It is just annoying and disturbing. So I made this thread to see if anyone else felt that way.

*pennydreadful* · 07-16-2015, 09:49 PM

If it didn't bother me in the 1990 movie, it certainly isn't going to bother me in the Nick show.

Yeah, it's kinda silly but the whole concept of mutated ninja turtles is to begin with - you've gotta roll with it.

*Ninturtle* · 07-16-2015, 09:59 PM

It doesn't bother me because real turtles do that too

*ToTheNines* · 07-16-2015, 10:05 PM

It's hilarious and certainly not exclusive to this iteration.

*Powder* · 07-16-2015, 10:06 PM

Hell no, it doesn't bother me. Why would it? & why now, of all times, rather than 25 years ago? Why is it annoying or disturbing? Real turtles do it, & so too have the TMNT, forever.

*CyberCubed* · 07-16-2015, 10:16 PM

I feel like I'm missing something here, don't real Turtles do this? Haven't the Turtles always done this?

*Powder* · 07-18-2015, 07:07 AM

So, given the ooze would not only give them new attributes but enhance their natural abilities, how does it not make perfect sense to you that these agile turtle ninjas could retract their heads during combat? That very trait is part of their durability.

You seem to miss my point, though. You can't say that any number of insane, impossible, zany things are perfectly OK & one wholly rational thing is not, you simply can't have it both ways. One must either critique all aspects of the series through a lens of realism & responsibility, or say "Screw it, this is a cartoon, let's get weird & allow things to unfold as they will." & I personally find the latter makes things far more enjoyable, TMNT or otherwise. It baffles me that people try to understand how certain universes work, like Adventure Time, for example. It's kooky as hell, just let it be kooky.

If you plain just don't like it for reasons beyond logic or understanding, well, that's your business, but you can't use the excuse that it's not true to form.

Splinter the boss · 07-18-2015, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

You seem to miss my point, though. You can't say that any number of insane, impossible, zany things are perfectly OK & one wholly rational thing is not, you simply can't have it both ways. One must either critique all aspects of the series through a lens of realism & responsibility, or say "Screw it, this is a cartoon, let's get weird & allow things to unfold as they will." & I personally find the latter makes things far more enjoyable, TMNT or otherwise. It baffles me that people try to understand how certain universes work, like Adventure Time, for example. It's kooky as hell, just let it be kooky.

If you plain just don't like it for reasons beyond logic or understanding, well, that's your business, but you can't use the excuse that it's not true to form.

I haven't missed your point. You are saying that natural turtles do it and the ooze enhances these natural characteristics, and that it is a kids show and one cannot explain how fictional universes like the tmnt universe work entirely.

It is your opinion and I cannot change your mind. Everyone just has their opinion.

*Candy Kappa* · 07-18-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

So, given the ooze would not only give them new attributes but enhance their natural abilities, how does it not make perfect sense to you that these agile turtle ninjas could retract their heads during combat? That very trait is part of their durability..

This. Normal turtles have very fast reflexes and great control over their neck.

It only makes sense that a mutated and enhanced turtle would to.

Splinter the boss · 07-17-2015, 06:37 AM

Alright, I see quite a few people are ok with it. That's good to know. But for me, not in a billion years will I like it.

*oldmanwinters* · 07-17-2015, 06:47 AM

Splinter the boss · 07-17-2015, 07:01 AM

Wow, they even make ninja turtles toys like that. I didn't know that. Thank you for the information oldmanwinters.

ShelleyQuick · 07-17-2015, 08:43 AM

Naahh, doesn't bother me at all. As a matter of fact I actually love when they do things like that. It's adorable and most turtles actually do that anyway. I really love it when they rely on their turtle instincts like when they're swimming, retreating and I've seen the Nick turtles flutter.

Splinter the boss · 07-17-2015, 09:10 AM

Do the the 2003 turtles do that ?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-17-2015, 09:53 AM

Thinking about it, I don't remember the following iterations ever doing the shell-tuck:

4Kids (2003) Cartoon
IDW Comics
Mirage/Image Comics

Unless I'm wrong here, which is entirely possible, it seems that the Mirage canon never did this, but the Fred Wolf cartoon started it. The shell-tuck makes perfect sense (they are Turtles after all) and so it caught on with all other major non-Mirage based TMNT iterations.

And yes, the argument can be made that IDW shouldn't be labeled as Mirage-based; considering though that the tone of the comic is much more serious than any of the cartoons have been, I think the label is acceptable for at least this example.

Splinter the boss · 07-17-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Thinking about it, I don't remember the following iterations ever doing the shell-tuck:

4Kids (2003) Cartoon
IDW Comics
Mirage/Image Comics

Unless I'm wrong here, which is entirely possible, it seems that the Mirage canon never did this, but the Fred Wolf cartoon started it. The shell-tuck makes perfect sense (they are Turtles after all) and so it caught on with all other major non-Mirage based TMNT iterations.

And yes, the argument can be made that IDW shouldn't be labeled as Mirage-based; considering though that the tone of the comic is much more serious than any of the cartoons have been, I think the label is acceptable for at least this example.

I see. That is very intersting.

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Not really, as the Turtles are sliders. And regular Sliders like most freshwater turtles and tortoises they can tuck in their head.

But on the other hand, with their bodies being humanoid. They have muscles normal turtles don't have, and Sea Turtles can't tuck in their heads due to too much muscle tissue being in the way, it would be more plausible that the Ninja Turtles can't tuck in their heads.

That would have been a relief, but too bad nick went with it. Speaking for myself here.

SophieDem · 07-17-2015, 04:43 PM

That's what turtles can do, right?

Why would it bother me?

Gunpowder · 07-17-2015, 05:01 PM

It's one of the few things they have in common with actual turtles...

So nah, it doesn't bother me. It actually makes me laugh every time they do it.

*Candy Kappa* · 07-17-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss

I hate when the turtles do that. It is just annoying and disturbing. So I made this thread to see if anyone else felt that way.

Not really, as the Turtles are sliders. And regular Sliders like most freshwater turtles and tortoises they can tuck in their head.

But on the other hand, with their bodies being humanoid. They have muscles normal turtles don't have, and Sea Turtles can't tuck in their heads due to too much muscle tissue being in the way, it would be more plausible that the Ninja Turtles can't tuck in their heads.

Wonton · 07-18-2015, 03:41 PM

It kind of irked me, too, at first (given how the turtles are built as opposed to real turtles) but like the others said, the innate nature of the medium (cartoon) kind of counterbalances any "odd" factor it may have had on me otherwise. Also, it'd be rather strange of me to complain about it in a franchise where turtles have teeth and don't seem to need to bask. Ever. XD

07-16-2015, 09:45 PM	#1
Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 938	Anyone else not okay with the turtles able to pull their heads into their shells ? I hate when the turtles do that. It is just annoying and disturbing. So I made this thread to see if anyone else felt that way.

07-16-2015, 09:49 PM	#2
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ShelleyQuick Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Spring Hill, Florida Posts: 134	Naahh, doesn't bother me at all. As a matter of fact I actually love when they do things like that. It's adorable and most turtles actually do that anyway. I really love it when they rely on their turtle instincts like when they're swimming, retreating and I've seen the Nick turtles flutter. __________________ Just a small town girl in a great big world.

07-17-2015, 09:53 AM	#15
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Thinking about it, I don't remember the following iterations ever doing the shell-tuck: 4Kids (2003) Cartoon IDW Comics Mirage/Image Comics Unless I'm wrong here, which is entirely possible, it seems that the Mirage canon never did this, but the Fred Wolf cartoon started it. The shell-tuck makes perfect sense (they are Turtles after all) and so it caught on with all other major non-Mirage based TMNT iterations. And yes, the argument can be made that IDW shouldn't be labeled as Mirage-based; considering though that the tone of the comic is much more serious than any of the cartoons have been, I think the label is acceptable for at least this example. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

07-16-2015, 09:59 PM	#3
Ninturtle Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2014 Location: Earth Posts: 1,534	It doesn't bother me because real turtles do that too

07-16-2015, 10:05 PM	#4
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,366	It's hilarious and certainly not exclusive to this iteration.

07-16-2015, 10:06 PM	#5
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Hell no, it doesn't bother me. Why would it? & why now, of all times, rather than 25 years ago? Why is it annoying or disturbing? Real turtles do it, & so too have the TMNT, forever.

07-16-2015, 10:16 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	I feel like I'm missing something here, don't real Turtles do this? Haven't the Turtles always done this?

07-18-2015, 07:07 AM	#7
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	So, given the ooze would not only give them new attributes but enhance their natural abilities, how does it not make perfect sense to you that these agile turtle ninjas could retract their heads during combat? That very trait is part of their durability. You seem to miss my point, though. You can't say that any number of insane, impossible, zany things are perfectly OK & one wholly rational thing is not, you simply can't have it both ways. One must either critique all aspects of the series through a lens of realism & responsibility, or say "Screw it, this is a cartoon, let's get weird & allow things to unfold as they will." & I personally find the latter makes things far more enjoyable, TMNT or otherwise. It baffles me that people try to understand how certain universes work, like Adventure Time, for example. It's kooky as hell, just let it be kooky. If you plain just don't like it for reasons beyond logic or understanding, well, that's your business, but you can't use the excuse that it's not true to form.

07-17-2015, 06:37 AM	#10
Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 938	Alright, I see quite a few people are ok with it. That's good to know. But for me, not in a billion years will I like it.

07-17-2015, 07:01 AM	#12
Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 938	Wow, they even make ninja turtles toys like that. I didn't know that. Thank you for the information oldmanwinters.

07-17-2015, 09:10 AM	#14
Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 938	Do the the 2003 turtles do that ?

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SophieDem Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Hungary Posts: 133	That's what turtles can do, right? Why would it bother me? __________________ Tono-sama is Tono-sama. - Kotoha Shinkenger The heart is a soft muscle, man. - Michelangelo Leo and Long-Neck Alien is my otp. - Candy Kappa SHIPPER! SHIPPER I TELL YOU!

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Gunpowder Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 715	It's one of the few things they have in common with actual turtles... So nah, it doesn't bother me. It actually makes me laugh every time they do it. __________________ Jason Biggs was the best Leonardo.

07-18-2015, 03:41 PM	#20
Wonton Mouser Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: United States Posts: 9	It kind of irked me, too, at first (given how the turtles are built as opposed to real turtles) but like the others said, the innate nature of the medium (cartoon) kind of counterbalances any "odd" factor it may have had on me otherwise. Also, it'd be rather strange of me to complain about it in a franchise where turtles have teeth and don't seem to need to bask. Ever. XD __________________ "Wow. The talking turtle likes machines." "Well, I do duz them."