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Old 09-30-2014, 09:28 PM   #661
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Since the season 2 finale has officially aired on TV, what did you guys make of April in this regard? I'm generally pretty neutral, but a bit curious now.

So, since the end of the world was nearing, Donnie decided to finally confess his feelings, but April purposely cut him off. To me, this officially showed that April is definitely aware of his feelings being more than friendshippy and just didn't want to hear the confession. Like she didn't want to face that possibility or reality, especially with everything going on too.

In all honesty, I kinda do feel Donnie's feelings are genuine, or have grown to be genuine. I guess it's due to the fact that it comes across as more innocent compared to Casey. I dunno, I think the writers are trying to show two different approaches. Casey totally feels more physical to me whereas Donnie doesn't. Even when he was glancing at her with Metalhead, he was talking about how wonderful and beautiful she was, focusing on her face. Casey likes back. He even felt himself up while in April's body and it was implied when swapping minds back and giving off that funny (imo) line, "I kinda liked being a girl" where he was looking and feeling next. That's why it seems mostly physical to me.

Now, going back slightly on-topic, seems after that, and while watching, it left me feeling very indifferent, and it was due to the suddenness of affection that April seemed to just start showing Casey. For me it felt forced. Why do you think she did this?

I was wondering if she did this as a way to get Donnie to reject her without directly rejecting him, but seems cruel to do this to Casey. Maybe she actually does harbor some feelings for him and completely confused and feels showing affection to Casey will help her get rid of those awkward feelings she has towards Donnie.

Not sure what to make of it and am a bit curious as to where the writers will go with this.
Yep, Casey is more physical, and possesive with April to a point than Donnie. Most obvious to that is in the way both the guys draw April. Donnie had drawn April in his mech suit, as part of the team, able to help them out and take care of herself. Casey's drawing however, depicted an April that seemed like a damsel in distress with Casey towering over her. In his eyes, she is not part of the team, but the girl he feels he must save and protect, whereas, he has done none of the protecting of her, it's been Donnie who has.

Those drawings that were shown in the finale could not have been by accident.

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But now this brings up a whole NEW set of questions:

If the storyboards become real, why was Donnie so...I dunno, bummed out about April kissing him? That "I understand nothing" line struck me as him having some weird vision or something that he interpreted one way, but it was really another. It's almost like he's upset that April doesn't care he's a mutant....or that she called him HER mutant. Like she does care a lot about him, but still sees the mutant first before what makes him a good person. It's like seeing your spouse's/boyfriend/girlfriend's flaws FIRST, then seeing their emotions and good qualities. Like you never see the good qualities before the bad and you keep seeing that first every time.

And let's not forget about Casey here. I still think there's going to be a HUGE fight between these two, whether Casey lashing out at Donnie for "Stealing April" or Donnie lashing out at Casey after Casey calls him names and says he's not good enough for April.
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Remember "Turtle Temper" and how Oroku Saki said harshful things to Hamato Yoshi, making Yoshi lose his temper?
We saw a brief glimpse of it on the season 3 premiere. And why do I keep thinking it's going to be like the Leo and Raph fight from the 2007 movie?
Ah, but here's something else to consider. If Casey does get pissed and goes after Donnie for "stealing April" now this might put a strain on his and Raph's relationship, because Raphael was very clear to Casey that he will support his brother over Casey, no matter how much Raph doesn't agree with Donnie's crush. Raph's been so weird in this whole thing, but interesting. One minute, he tells Donnie that he's crazy because it's not going to work. But then, when Donnie starts to make a fool of himself in front of April, Raph drags him away before anymore damage is done. I gotta feeling in the end, Raph is going to end up being the referee during all of this madness.

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I don't how she was able get pass doctor visits and annual physicals without setting off any sort of alarms within her lifetime.
Same reason why the mutants in X-Men or Clark from Superman were able to get by, plot conveniences.

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Donny and April would rile up adults and basically promote beastiality. I mean if you haven't noticed Donnies a freaking Turtle! An anthropomorphic turtle yes, but still not human in any aspect of the word. It's like Karai and Leo, I prefer Karai and Leo keep a brother sister relationship since Karai is Splinters daughter.
It's really not beastiality, and anyways, the creators already took care of that, by making April not 100% human. I am pretty sure that was the whole reasoning behind that, as well as April being around the Turtle's ages instead of already being an adult, so they can toy with Apritello and the parents can't say jack squat. And anyways, I suggest they take thier pitchforks over to Sayjay and Craig way before they even think about coming to TMNT, because stuff over in that show is revolting.

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Old 09-30-2014, 09:50 PM   #662
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Apriltello confirmed now?

Eh. Okay. It may give april some character.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:59 PM   #663
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that whole kissing scene is just part of Donnie's vision quest. That is what I'm hoping for at least.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:33 PM   #664
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Yep, Casey is more physical, and possesive with April to a point than Donnie. Most obvious to that is in the way both the guys draw April. Donnie had drawn April in his mech suit, as part of the team, able to help them out and take care of herself. Casey's drawing however, depicted an April that seemed like a damsel in distress with Casey towering over her. In his eyes, she is not part of the team, but the girl he feels he must save and protect, whereas, he has done none of the protecting of her, it's been Donnie who has.

Those drawings that were shown in the finale could not have been by accident.
Yeah, does seem so but I also feel that Casey is the protector type. The way he talked about his father and sister gave that impression. Seems he wants to protect those he cares about, which is a very admirable trait. I bet if April picked him up and threw him out of the way and took down Kraang Prime using only a rubber chicken, he'd probably still depict her as one he needs to protect because he cares about her. As for the physical thing, I meant that his attraction to April feels like a physical one, whereas Donnie's at this point feels emotional...although I got that impression back in season 1, talking about her personality and how wonderful she is. I could be mistaken, but I don't think we've gotten that from Casey yet.
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Ah, but here's something else to consider. If Casey does get pissed and goes after Donnie for "stealing April" now this might put a strain on his and Raph's relationship, because Raphael was very clear to Casey that he will support his brother over Casey, no matter how much Raph doesn't agree with Donnie's crush. Raph's been so weird in this whole thing, but interesting. One minute, he tells Donnie that he's crazy because it's not going to work. But then, when Donnie starts to make a fool of himself in front of April, Raph drags him away before anymore damage is done. I gotta feeling in the end, Raph is going to end up being the referee during all of this madness.
Hm, that would be something and to be honest, I get the impression that he's kind of neutral, but will step in if necessary.

I really hope that there isn't a falling out between Donnie and Casey to the point where they both come off as OOC, like in that Ho Chan ep.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:03 PM   #665
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Don't you mean flanderizing as ****?
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:27 AM   #666
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^ I might lose all respect for April if that doesn't turn out to be a vision. It justified how everybody keep saying that April is a tease, which was something that I never thought she was.
Agreed. The moment I watched the finale, I immediately thought of these storyboards and frowned.

This is why I hate these generic or poorly written love triangles. It usually always comes down to the person in the middle being indecisive and at the worst, she'd in a bad light when really, the show/book/whatever in question just wants to drag it out for ratings. Ugh.
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Agreed. The moment I watched the finale, I immediately thought of these storyboards and frowned.

This is why I hate these generic or poorly written love triangles. It usually always comes down to the person in the middle being indecisive and at the worst, she'd in a bad light when really, the show/book/whatever in question just wants to drag it out for ratings. Ugh.
Despite the cliche of it, it is a realistic scenario for some. Also dating someone to help rid your feelings for someone else is a realistic scenario for some.

To be honest, April, if she is harboring feelings, has all the right in the world to be confused. She may have romantic feelings for a 6ft tall turtle for goodness sakes. Casey represents normalcy, to an extent, and he does care about her.

I kinda feel sorry for April here. She technically has no one to talk to regarding this, even hypothetically, and I doubt she ever talked to Irma about it and I don't know many teenage girls who'd talk to their fathers about something like that. I know I never talked about stuff like that with mine. Always my mother.

Anywho, I still felt everything with Casey in the finale was forced. Worrying over him, hugging him knowing he's safe, understandable, but saying such things as if they're a couple is just too sudden for me.
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that whole kissing scene is just part of Donnie's vision quest. That is what I'm hoping for at least.
I said that when I first saw it a few months ago, because to me it would have April toying with Donnie's emotions and I never thought of her in that way.

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Old 10-01-2014, 10:31 AM   #668
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that whole kissing scene is just part of Donnie's vision quest. That is what I'm hoping for at least.
What's this vision quest about? There some season 3 info I missed?

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I kinda feel sorry for April here. She technically has no one to talk to regarding this, even hypothetically, and I doubt she ever talked to Irma about it and I don't know many teenage girls who'd talk to their fathers about something like that. I know I never talked about stuff like that with mine. Always my mother.
Yeah. The only person she might have been able to talk about this with was Karai if the mutagen accident didn't happen.
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:14 AM   #669
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What's this vision quest about? There some season 3 info I missed?


Yeah. The only person she might have been able to talk about this with was Karai if the mutagen accident didn't happen.
It was mentioned someplace about vision quests for them...and getting new weapons and stuff.
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Yep, there's going to be some vision quests for the Turtles, but I don't think the episode with Bigfoot will be the vision quest. Or if it is, it might be the start of it and they leave us off in a cliffhanger or something. Just have to wait and see.
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Old 10-01-2014, 04:53 PM   #671
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that whole kissing scene is just part of Donnie's vision quest. That is what I'm hoping for at least.
To me, that doesn't make sense though.

If the whole point of Donnie's quest is to be strong and immovable like the mountains, doesn't "giving up on April" go against the whole purpose of what Donnie's quest is supposed to mean for him?

Plus since this board is either happening in episode 2 or 3, I don't think the vision quests are starting that early in the season, I think some things are going to happen first where the brothers then realize they need to go their separate ways and refind themselves.
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Yeah, that's what I think too. It's too soon for them to have vision quests yet. My guess is that this thing happens right after Donnie sees Bigfoot.
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Yeah, that's what I think too. It's too soon for them to have vision quests yet. My guess is that this thing happens right after Donnie sees Bigfoot.
Yeah, there's one thing I don't understand though.

Other than the music box, which we don't know about yet.

When Donnie says in the clip, "Donnie is to April, what Bigfoot is to Donnie."

I wonder what that's suppose to mean?

Is it possible that this Bigfoot goes beyond what they look like and befriends Donatello, and Donnie was like "I'll be your friend and help you, but let's not get crazy now." And Donnie doing this like realized what April must be going through when it comes to himself and her?

Don't know...
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When Donnie says in the clip, "Donnie is to April, what Bigfoot is to Donnie."

I wonder what that's suppose to mean?
To me... sounds like a Ms. Bigfoot takes a liking to him. lol
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To me... sounds like a Ms. Bigfoot takes a liking to him. lol
That's my theory. I also think that maybe, at first, Bigfoot sees Donnie in his Vision Quest garb and maybe the mask resembles Bigfoot, so she assumes Donnie is another Bigfoot.

This is what popped in my head when I first read the storyboard. Like a Bigfoot creature captures Donnie and wants to...ahem...get better acquainted with him.

Or something like this will happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlVqfC8-UI
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If the whole point of Donnie's quest is to be strong and immovable like the mountains, doesn't "giving up on April" go against the whole purpose of what Donnie's quest is supposed to mean for him?
Strength isn't always about having persistence in trying to get what you want though, not when it's in spite of the wishes/wants/needs of others. Strength could also be having the ability to recognize the wishes/needs of others, not just of oneself, and facing it. Perhaps that's what he does and why he goes to her in the storyboard...

Although if they do go with a not "giving up on April" theme that kind of annoys me a tad because it basically makes her a prize to be won, as if she is not a part of the matter other than simply accepting or rejecting.
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Strength isn't always about having persistence in trying to get what you want though, not when it's in spite of the wishes/wants/needs of others. Strength could also be having the ability to recognize the wishes/needs of others, not just of oneself, and facing it. Perhaps that's what he does and why he goes to her in the storyboard...

Although if they do go with a not "giving up on April" theme that kind of annoys me a tad because it basically makes her a prize to be won, as if she is not a part of the matter other than simply accepting or rejecting.
As long as it's not forced I don't see it as a big deal, really. He likes her and is trying to gain her affections. If it works out, nice for him. If it doesn't, so be it. It's natural for guys to do things to get the attention of the person he likes. Girls do this too in their own way.

Also, April should hold some responsibility too. She needs to be clear and say, "No, I'm not interested."
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Also, April should hold some responsibility too. She needs to be clear and say, "No, I'm not interested."
Yes, exactly. If those storyboards happen in waking life though... Just makes me weary the writing decided to go in the direction of the fantasy notion of the pursuer just having to find that one thing that will somehow magically make the girl change her mind and have mutual feelings.

It's a common youthful notion when you're that into someone, that there has to be something that will force someone to like you, I get it, but... if they make her do that... or lead him on to continue to look for that thing...

Eh I'll be glad when it comes to pass and the context is actually there... lol
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As long as it's not forced I don't see it as a big deal, really. He likes her and is trying to gain her affections. If it works out, nice for him. If it doesn't, so be it. It's natural for guys to do things to get the attention of the person he likes. Girls do this too in their own way.

Also, April should hold some responsibility too. She needs to be clear and say, "No, I'm not interested."
True, but she might end up saying that to Casey, not Donnie.
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True, but she might end up saying that to Casey, not Donnie.
Which going to be weird since throughout Season 2 she was never at all annoyed by his come ons. I might have mix feelings about Casey but the whole apritello deal was just so nauseating. I hate it.
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