Turtles Forever - Talkback Discussion Thread - Page 38

*Candy Kappa* · 04-30-2010, 11:16 AM

It's set in Vol 1, issue 1.
Yoshi is not Splinter in the comics, that was something they made up for the toon

*TheCanadiandrome* · 04-30-2010, 11:17 AM

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Ohh, I see. So, how do we know when exactly Turtles Forever takes place for the Mirage turtles? I mean, how can you tell what "Volume" they're in during the movie? (Sorry, I'm kind of a Mirage N00b.)

don't feel bad, so am i. i also wonder as well. i don't think it was pinpointed exactly when this movie takes place in any timelines

*gobo* · 04-30-2010, 11:50 AM

It's clear that this is the very first issue for the Mirage Turtles as The Shredder isn't dead yet. You read that right. Shredder was offed in the very first issue. It's a good bit more questionable at what point in their adventures the OT Turtles were involved.

Teddy · 04-30-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

It's set in Vol 1, issue 1.
Yoshi is not Splinter in the comics, that was something they made up for the toon

For real? So Yoshi and Splinter are two different characters? Ok, so I'm more clueless than I thought... I'm an Archie girl.

Good to know I'm not the only Mirage n00b around here, though. *nudges TMNT_25*

EDIT: I didn't know about Shredder being offed in the first issue, either! My mind has officially been blown.

*ToTheNines* · 04-30-2010, 12:56 PM

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It's a good bit more questionable at what point in their adventures the OT Turtles were involved.

Nah, definitely after season 10.

Gyt Kaliba · 04-30-2010, 01:59 PM

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EDIT: I didn't know about Shredder being offed in the first issue, either! My mind has officially been blown.

I was in that mind-blown seat when I first heard too LOL. I grew up on the old toon and movies, I didn't even have the Archie comics to go off of. All my Mirage knowledge was gleaned from Wiki, till I came here.

DK2 · 04-30-2010, 07:15 PM

I laughed about the Mirage TMNTs timeline from TMNT #1 Vol.1 I knew that the whole time when I watched it. But with the other Turtles interfering with Mirage Shredder, dumping garbage at him for the time being, are we to assume the Mirage Turtles/Prime will still eventually fight Shredder to the death again? It was just a little delay for now or for another day? Its just on a technical note the Mirage canon/continuity has been messed with for a bit. Things'll go back to to their original intent in their timeline? I'm being nitpicky about this point.

ShreddedSplinter · 05-01-2010, 06:43 AM

After watching the 2003 from start to finish, I have to say that it would have been really cool if they had included Baxter Stockman, both the old show & the new show versions. They could have gotten some great jokes out of that.

Also, in the scene where The 80s Turtles have to save April, there is one thing I would change. I think the joke itself is awesome, but I think instead of having mutant bananas & pizza monsters, does anybody else think it would have been cooler if they had villains from the original show? They could have had Rat King, Leatherhead, Slash, and other villains, as they appeared in the old show, show up and attack April. The joke of having the Turtles randomly save April is still in tact, and you would have gotten another cool little nostalgia moment out of it too.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 05-01-2010, 10:28 PM

so, ok for the Mirage Turtles it was set somewhere during the very first issue; for the OT Turtles, possibly season 10 (though i doubt it cause the animation for seasons 8-10 ain't the same as what was in Turtles Forever); but what about the 2K3 Turtles?

*gobo* · 05-02-2010, 01:55 AM

Well, birthyesterday boy said the OT was "definitely after season 10". While I can't think up a decent argument against that, I think that's a lame possibility. Heck, The Technodrome was saying "temporal anomally" in its introductory scene, so that suggests it did some time traveling to get there. However, their description and its illustration of how they ended up fighting the PDs doesn't accurately line up with any official OT adventure we know.

For the 4Kids Turtles, this takes place after BttS and probably after the semi-planned yet unproduced Shredder Wars season. This is why Serling (and Khan, to a lesser degree) vanished without so much as a mention but the Turtles' lair was still decked out with 2105 tech and Splinter wasn't still a pile of computer data bits.

*ToTheNines* · 05-02-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

It's set in Vol 1, issue 1.
Yoshi is not Splinter in the comics, that was something they made up for the toon

To be totally specific, after page 23 and before page 24. I really can't believe there are turtle fans out there who haven't read issue #1... it's up for free on the official site.

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But with the other Turtles interfering with Mirage Shredder, dumping garbage at him for the time being, are we to assume the Mirage Turtles/Prime will still eventually fight Shredder to the death again? It was just a little delay for now or for another day? Its just on a technical note the Mirage canon/continuity has been messed with for a bit. Things'll go back to to their original intent in their timeline? I'm being nitpicky about this point.

It doesn't mess with Mirage continuity at all, it just created an alternate time-line. Another "branch universe", as it were.

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Originally Posted by gobo

Heck, The Technodrome was saying "temporal anomally" in its introductory scene, so that suggests it did some time traveling to get there. However, their description and its illustration of how they ended up fighting the PDs doesn't accurately line up with any official OT adventure we know.

So what? The OT ended in 1996, so if the OT characters all came from anywhere between 97-2008 it's still a time jump to end up in 2009.

Of course these fictional dates are rough estimates, but you see what I mean.

*gobo* · 05-02-2010, 03:56 PM

I get ya. That's not why I think it would be lame though. It's just asking too much imagination on the audience's part. That's weak writing skills.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 05-02-2010, 05:15 PM

meh, what does it matter when it takes place really? too much over analizing. let's just agree it was awesome as hell, and another one would be sweet

*ToTheNines* · 05-02-2010, 06:39 PM

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I get ya. That's not why I think it would be lame though. It's just asking too much imagination on the audience's part. That's weak writing skills.

While it would have been awesome if they went out of there way to pull the OT crew out of a specific episode, it's also cool to think of all the adventures the "clowns" have already had. I suppose it cheapens "Divide and Conquer", but screw it.

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meh, what does it matter when it takes place really? too much over analizing.

Over-analyzing is the reason I get online to talk to you nerds lol

Teddy · 05-02-2010, 11:59 PM

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I really can't believe there are turtle fans out there who haven't read issue #1... it's up for free on the official site.

Hey now, I read the Raphael issue at least. That's a start, right?

*Turo602* · 05-03-2010, 06:21 PM

I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but when the 2k3 world is being destroyed when the TMNT go back, the screen that blows up, says "Breaking News" also says "Lairdtronics".

*ToTheNines* · 05-03-2010, 08:10 PM

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Hey now, I read the Raphael issue at least. That's a start, right?

I think a "start" would be issue #1.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 05-03-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Over-analyzing is the reason I get online to talk to you nerds lol

haha, lol!!!

jaymq · 05-24-2010, 01:45 PM

Hum. I just re-watched the Director's Cut... Anyone else notice OT Leonardo saying "Don" instead of Donatello when he was telling NT Splinter their story about how they ended up in 2k3 'verse?

*gobo* · 05-24-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but when the 2k3 world is being destroyed when the TMNT go back, the screen that blows up and says "Breaking News" also says "Lairdtronics".

Hadn't noticed. Cool find, yo.

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Hum. I just re-watched the Director's Cut... Anyone else notice OT Leonardo saying "Don" instead of Donatello when he was telling NT Splinter their story about how they ended up in 2k3 'verse?

That I did notice. The things they did right with the OT Turtles still outweighs the things they got wrong though.

04-30-2010, 11:16 AM	#741
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04-30-2010, 11:50 AM	#743
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	It's clear that this is the very first issue for the Mirage Turtles as The Shredder isn't dead yet. You read that right. Shredder was offed in the very first issue. It's a good bit more questionable at what point in their adventures the OT Turtles were involved. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

05-01-2010, 10:28 PM	#749
TheCanadiandrome Big, Bad & Bold Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Inside the Technodrome; Shredderville; Saskatchewan Posts: 19,719	so, ok for the Mirage Turtles it was set somewhere during the very first issue; for the OT Turtles, possibly season 10 (though i doubt it cause the animation for seasons 8-10 ain't the same as what was in Turtles Forever); but what about the 2K3 Turtles? __________________ Add me: PSN/XBL; Nintendo Network ID: BDS-3.1.6; Switch FC: SW-3378-5206-8020 TMNT Fan Club: http://sot.ag/4jZR0 Visit My Wish List: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30904 My Collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40276

05-02-2010, 01:55 AM	#750
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Well, birthyesterday boy said the OT was "definitely after season 10". While I can't think up a decent argument against that, I think that's a lame possibility. Heck, The Technodrome was saying "temporal anomally" in its introductory scene, so that suggests it did some time traveling to get there. However, their description and its illustration of how they ended up fighting the PDs doesn't accurately line up with any official OT adventure we know. For the 4Kids Turtles, this takes place after BttS and probably after the semi-planned yet unproduced Shredder Wars season. This is why Serling (and Khan, to a lesser degree) vanished without so much as a mention but the Turtles' lair was still decked out with 2105 tech and Splinter wasn't still a pile of computer data bits. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

05-02-2010, 03:56 PM	#752
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I get ya. That's not why I think it would be lame though. It's just asking too much imagination on the audience's part. That's weak writing skills. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

04-30-2010, 07:15 PM	#747
DK2 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 621	I laughed about the Mirage TMNTs timeline from TMNT #1 Vol.1 I knew that the whole time when I watched it. But with the other Turtles interfering with Mirage Shredder, dumping garbage at him for the time being, are we to assume the Mirage Turtles/Prime will still eventually fight Shredder to the death again? It was just a little delay for now or for another day? Its just on a technical note the Mirage canon/continuity has been messed with for a bit. Things'll go back to to their original intent in their timeline? I'm being nitpicky about this point.

05-01-2010, 06:43 AM	#748
ShreddedSplinter Mouser Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 13	After watching the 2003 from start to finish, I have to say that it would have been really cool if they had included Baxter Stockman, both the old show & the new show versions. They could have gotten some great jokes out of that. Also, in the scene where The 80s Turtles have to save April, there is one thing I would change. I think the joke itself is awesome, but I think instead of having mutant bananas & pizza monsters, does anybody else think it would have been cooler if they had villains from the original show? They could have had Rat King, Leatherhead, Slash, and other villains, as they appeared in the old show, show up and attack April. The joke of having the Turtles randomly save April is still in tact, and you would have gotten another cool little nostalgia moment out of it too.

05-02-2010, 05:15 PM	#753
TheCanadiandrome Big, Bad & Bold Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Inside the Technodrome; Shredderville; Saskatchewan Posts: 19,719	meh, what does it matter when it takes place really? too much over analizing. let's just agree it was awesome as hell, and another one would be sweet __________________ Add me: PSN/XBL; Nintendo Network ID: BDS-3.1.6; Switch FC: SW-3378-5206-8020 TMNT Fan Club: http://sot.ag/4jZR0 Visit My Wish List: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30904 My Collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40276

05-03-2010, 06:21 PM	#756
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but when the 2k3 world is being destroyed when the TMNT go back, the screen that blows up, says "Breaking News" also says "Lairdtronics". __________________ Last edited by Turo602; 05-24-2010 at 06:09 PM.

05-24-2010, 01:45 PM	#759
jaymq Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 435	Hum. I just re-watched the Director's Cut... Anyone else notice OT Leonardo saying "Don" instead of Donatello when he was telling NT Splinter their story about how they ended up in 2k3 'verse? __________________ Nom