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Old 04-11-2007, 10:50 PM   #61
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THAT'S RIGHT!! AND GIVE HEAD YOU SHALL, FOR HE IS ONE OF THE FATHERS OF THE TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES!! ON YOUR KNEES SOLDIER!!!!
Everything you just said has throughly disturbed me.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:52 PM   #62
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well maybe if he was a bit better looking hahaha but I'm sure other members would glad do so I could think of a few choice names hahaha
a bit? have you seen how he looks?

...sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:55 PM   #63
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a bit? have you seen how he looks?

...sorry, couldn't resist.
ahahha I was kidding and yeah I'm not really into older balding fat star trek nerds myself but younger skinner star trek nerds sure yeah maybe haha
(and no I'm not insulting peter I'm only having a bit of fun it's a shame I have to post this crap so I don't offend anyone)
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:56 PM   #64
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The point was he makes it look like the old toon and archie are less than what he's doing but it's really no better.
I guess I can see that. I love Archie and anyone who discounts it deserves to be kicked in the nuts.
*puts on orange afro wig.*
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:57 PM   #65
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I guess I can see that. I love Archie and anyone who discounts it deserves to be kicked in the nuts.
*puts on orange afro wig.*
Better be ready to get Laird. I know Murphy said Laird "wasn't the biggest fan of it" I seem to remember reading somewhere he really didn't like it at all. But I;m not sure where so I could be wrong.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:59 PM   #66
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Maybe it out sold vol 2....
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:00 PM   #67
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Maybe it out sold vol 2....
ahahha well I think he's just lopping it all together with the old toon.
I really don't get his anger towards it.
He did a crap load of the covers and a boat load of characters belong to him as well.
And honestly people get allot of what Myself and Spitfire say wrong.
Dude Peter and Kevin are like 2 of my biggest idiols but if you cant joke about them atleast to some extent then you're really taking life way to seriously.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:02 PM   #68
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I'd love to actually ask him, since Archie had a sweet all encompassing arc.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:03 PM   #69
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I'd love to actually ask him, since Archie had a sweet all encompassing arc.
Yeah seriously, Future Shark was so awesome. Why can't we get TPB's of those issues? I really wish, I could track them all down*I do own alot of them but their mangled* but it would be nice to have them in TPB.
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Yeah seriously, Future Shark was so awesome. Why can't we get TPB's of those issues? I really wish, I could track them all down*I do own alot of them but their mangled* but it would be nice to have them in TPB.
I'm pretty sure Armaggon is Peters character which makes it even more odd.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:22 PM   #71
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I'm pretty sure Armaggon is Peters character which makes it even more odd.
Yeah, it is Peter's character.

Future Shark is easily my favorite Archie story and near the top of my favorite all-time TMNT stories. How anyone can consider this series to have any connection to the original cartoon is beyond me.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:27 PM   #72
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Yeah, it is Peter's character.

Future Shark is easily my favorite Archie story and near the top of my favorite all-time TMNT stories. How anyone can consider this series to have any connection to the original cartoon is beyond me.
Awsome thanks for clearing it up! I knew it!
He would be so perfect for fastforward it was the perfect opertunity to finally get some animated archie and they blew it thats what I think stinks about FF.
And the only way they could would be by looking at the first mini series based on the toon but other than that Archie is it's own tmnt world.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:31 PM   #73
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Yeah, it is Peter's character.

Future Shark is easily my favorite Archie story and near the top of my favorite all-time TMNT stories. How anyone can consider this series to have any connection to the original cartoon is beyond me.
Well that would be because it had old toon characters in it. Except they took them and made them better.

Also it had like I think 4 issues of old toon stories. Which is why it was such a good TV show comic. It took the cartoon world and made it's own stories instead of just using episodes for stories.

But yeah it was so much more mature then the old toon I don't see it either sometimes.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:50 PM   #74
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It was like the OT, in the first 2 seasons. from 3 the show got a little cheeser and the comic got more involved. That's why I love archie, it took the TMNT i was introdused to and gave me stories I could enjoy as a 9, 10, even 12 year old.
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:27 AM   #75
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Yeah Personally I think the people who kiss his @ss would just as quickly scare him away.
I'd I'd hardly consider people who dislike what he does but still respect him to be bashers.
Oh and Quite Frankly I'd rather have Kevin Eastman here since he actully likes to talk about the TURTLES and not some crap that has nothing to do with it.
+1 on the Kevin Eastman thing. It would be interesting to get to chat with Peter though, but I don't think I'd want to criticize him, even in the slightest bit, based on the tmnt vol. 4 letters I've read. On the flip side of things, Kevin Eastman seems much more of a laid back kool guy from what I've seen and heard. Not only could I chat about tmnt with kevin, but I hear he was quite a heavy metal fan back in the day. In fact I remember in one of the old tmnt mirage series books, there was a wall drawn with graffiti on it that said Megadeth, Slayer ect....

Anywho, I still respect peter because he is co-creator of some of my favorite characters of all time, but sometimes it seems he goes out of his way to print the negative letters in the book just to rant and such. Who knows though, maybe the guy just has a weird sense of humor about all this, and maybe he's a really laid back kool guy. I mean obviously tone of voice can't really come across on paper, maybe he's just sarcastic. I wouldn't really want to judge the guy to much though based on remarks on negative letters he's recieved. After all I've never met him.

BTW- Anyone here ever meet Peter in real life?
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:03 AM   #76
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Half the **** said in this thread pretty much stands as a signpost as to why Pete and half the other staffers don't post here. They'd come, have a look, see this and think "no way am i jumping into that pit!"
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:28 AM   #77
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In reference to one of the earlier posts here...

Peter: I don't like what you all are posting on the drome.

Us: If you don't like it, don't read it
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:30 AM   #78
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In reference to one of the earlier posts here...

Peter: I don't like what you all are posting on the drome.

Us: If you don't like it, don't read it
hahahahaha ZING!
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:34 AM   #79
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^ Heh, Peter Laird ranted about statements like that in one of the letters section too.
Indeed. I happened to agree with him as I read his position.

The problem is that there is this bizarre sense of entitlement on the part of Western consumerism, particularly those that self-identify themselves as "fandom". Many consumers subscribe to the fantasy that an artist has some long-term obligation, that he or she somehow owes them something beyond what they paid for at the time of a prior transaction.

In this context, that means that if Consumer A purchases Comic B that the author of said comic has an obligation to continue making products that the aforementioned consumer wants. This is, of course, nothing short of narcissistic self-importance, a product of the hyperindividualism we find in much of Western culture (i.e., the Me Generation). An artist or an author doesn't "owe" you anything beyond what you paid for and this is even more the case in television programming, in which you didn't pay for anything at all.

Laird is absolutely right here. He doesn't "owe" us anything, he has no obligation to us at all. He makes a product, we purchase said product as consumers. If you don't like what he's done or the direction he's gone, stop buying the product. Its that simple. Caveat emptor.

Good grief, this egocentric consumerism can be grating...
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Half the **** said in this thread pretty much stands as a signpost as to why Pete and half the other staffers don't post here. They'd come, have a look, see this and think "no way am i jumping into that pit!"
Beat me to it.

I just know if he DID join, everyone would be like "MR. Laird oh golly gee I love your work! You're the bestest Sign my face!"

Poor guy got ripped on pretty harsh in this thread. I'd love to meet him, he's a genius, already have with Eastman, Laird doesn't seem to get around to the major comic conventions unfortunately.
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