What is your favorite TMNT universe? - Page 4

*Scandia* · 06-12-2007, 04:05 PM

I was thinking about which Turtle did each universe focus most on.

Mirage- I think this one leans towards being Donatello centric, if it were to have a Turtle more emphasized. Many of the storylines feature the sci-fi and technology domain that Donnie focuses on. He gets one of the two transformations in the current Mirage volume 4.

OT- Definitely Michelangelo! Pizza, cowabunga, surfer slang, more Mikey-centric episodes than for any other Turtles, and so on. He gets into trouble more than in any other version, and more than any other Turtle. He was the one chosen for the SuperStar special about saying no to drugs. The OT is totally Mikey's world.

Movies- Raphael, for sure. While he is the cynical sardonic Turtle in all universes, the movies do show the most about him. In the first one he goes off on his own and is the one to yell for Splinter and the one who hugs him the longest at the end. In the second one again he goes off on his own and gets captured. On the third one he is the one befriending the little boy. And you can see how much the 4th one dwelves on him.

NT- From what I have seen, it may be that Leonardo got finally to be the focus on the NT. A lot of the Shredder/Foot/Karai episodes have him as the focus. And he is the one who gets shell shock and who goes to meet the Ancient One first. He even is the one who stays listening to the Ancient One's story while his brothers run off to play. And the first episode is narrated from his point of view.

Archie- I have not read any of the Archie comics. However, since Raphael got the girlfriend, do they focus more on him than on any of the other Turtles?

Image- I have not read any of them either.

TNM- we know exactly who it focuses on.

*triplexxx* · 06-13-2007, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

OT- Definitely Michelangelo! Pizza, cowabunga, surfer slang, more Mikey-centric episodes than for any other Turtles, and so on. He gets into trouble more than in any other version, and more than any other Turtle. He was the one chosen for the SuperStar special about saying no to drugs. The OT is totally Mikey's world.

Just to point out: I think he gets in more trouble in the NT than the OT, he's somewhat more serious in the OT; and it focuses quite a bit on Donatello too, considering his gadgets help a lot in saving the day.

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NT- From what I have seen, it may be that Leonardo got finally to be the focus on the NT. A lot of the Shredder/Foot/Karai episodes have him as the focus. And he is the one who gets shell shock and who goes to meet the Ancient One first.

The Karai episodes perhaps, but the only three Shredder episodes really giving him majority of focus was SS 1, SSB 1, and RTNY 3, and even then every turtle really participated a hell of a lot, especially in SS, SSB, RTNY, and Exodus. As for the Foot, all turtles got a damn good fair share of those eps. And technically, they all met the Ancient One at the same time years ago, they just don't remember because of what the Tribunal did to them.

*Scandia* · 06-13-2007, 05:36 AM

I have not watched much of the NT. I am just stating what I have seen in those episodes. They all did meet the Ancient One at the same time- but Leo was the first one to see him again as a teenager. And Mikey's the goofball regardless of the incarnation. Donnie does do a lot of gadgets pretty much everywhere- although I am glad they were highlighted so much in the OT.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-13-2007, 12:28 PM

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Just to point out: I think he gets in more trouble in the NT than the OT, he's somewhat more serious in the OT.

Yeah I find that to be the case in the old toon as well. Michaelangelo in the old show seemed to take things a bit more seriously in despret situations than he does in the new toon. I also think to some degree old toon Michaelangelo shows a wider range of emotion than the new one even does on ocsasion

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it focuses quite a bit on Donatello too, considering his gadgets help a lot in saving the day.

I agree with you. I think Donatello was pretty much top turtle in the old toon and could be argued the unofficial leader. Since more often than not it appeared Donatello was the one giveing orders on how to disarm a dangerous gadget, or Dontello who was responciable for saving the day. Heck they even dedicated a episode to him being a fearsome adversary if he ever got mean in the :Night of the Dark Turtle episode.

General Traag · 06-16-2007, 09:32 PM

My favorite TMNT-Universe? Definetely the old cartoon.

Maybe silly and not "ninja" enough, but it's great comedy. =]

I would really love a sequel with all the old characters (knowing it won't happen) with more mature ninja action AND the comedy involved
(krang or the dimension x alone would make up for a entire series not to mention the countless side characters).

CJStyles · 06-16-2007, 10:56 PM

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the power rangers crossover was painful enough in itself.

That's what turned me off from the series..... it was pitiful and I was 12 or so

*Scandia* · 06-17-2007, 05:52 AM

I'm leaning towards saying that Mirage is my favorite universe, even though I am relatively new to it.

However, I like some aspects of the other universeses better- multicolored bandannas, the pizza/surfer/cowabunga humor, and so on.

And I prefer April working as a reporter- which is a job she could take in basically any universe.

Rhodan · 06-22-2007, 04:23 AM

Hi guys! It feels so good to make the first post.
New toon all the way! You know, like many others here I get the OT first but when i found abou the new one I had short but strong anger time over the old series when I learned what blasphemy to the source material it was. Anyway the NT is mature, good plots and it probably has the best from Mirage, which I haven´t read much but from what I know, the toon has actually better writing sometimes.
After this i pretty much like archie comics which is probably how 87´s version which should be remembered (too bad that here it was canceled in the moment whenDdon was imprisoned on the floppy disk).

*Sage Ninja* · 06-22-2007, 11:59 AM

**sigh** I respect that every one is entitled to their own opinion, but seriously why can't fans just respect that the old toon series was just its own interpertation of a dark comic that went it its own direction.

with in the context of its own format it did have some good story lines and characters.

*odupianist* · 06-22-2007, 12:11 PM

Because at the time, when we were very young (I think I was around 5), we had no idea about the Mirage comics. Mirage was not a common name to us. As we grew up we learned about it, but for many many years, all we knew of the TMNT was the OT. That's why the fans, including myself, initially had a hard time swallowing a new cartoon 4-5 years ago.

*Buslady* · 06-22-2007, 12:15 PM

the old toon was a cute show for what it was, a kiddie show. It was my first exposure to TMNT and drew me towards being a Raph fan..but the movie did most of that...
There were some good fun stories, one of my favorites was Raph Meets His Match...I thought Mona Lisa was a clute little flirt.

But with all that, I'm not a big fan of the OT. Gimme Mirage, TMNT1&4, gimme 2K3....I will watch OT but cringe at the poor characterization of my hero. He's not always that sarcastic and light hearted. Of course that part of his persona wouldn't fit well in the OT.

When the new show came out in '03...I nearly jumped for joy...okay i did. More accurate representation of all our heros, closest we've seen to the comics. I crave MORE. [fangirl mode]And Raph...

*drool*

hahah [/ fangirlmode]

Serp · 06-22-2007, 12:16 PM

I like the Movie Verse and The Archie Comic verse

I havent seen the newest Movie Though. and I havent read much of the Mirage series but I read up on it and it seems preety solid.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-22-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

When the new show came out in '03...I nearly jumped for joy...okay i did. More accurate representation of all our heros, closest we've seen to the comics. I crave MORE. [fangirl mode]And Raph...

*drool*

hahah [/ fangirlmode]

I agree on how the the new toon represents the turtles more true to their potrayals in the Mirage comics. Except for Mikey. Lone my boy Michaelangelo but I seriously hope thats not how he was potrayed in the mirage comics!

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Originally Posted by odupianist

Because at the time, when we were very young (I think I was around 5), we had no idea about the Mirage comics. Mirage was not a common name to us. As we grew up we learned about it, but for many many years, all we knew of the TMNT was the OT. That's why the fans, including myself, initially had a hard time swallowing a new cartoon 4-5 years ago.

yeah I under stand that but fans tend to make it out like the old toon raped the turtles concept and went all kiddified on purpose. When really at the time there was no way I cartoon with the seriousness and dark elements that the new toon has today (or at least had

) would have flown back then. Do you really think Leoanrdo could have gotten away with cutting off Shreddder;s head in the old toon? No.

*Revan* · 06-22-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

yeah I under stand that but fans tend to make it out like the old toon raped the turtles concept and went all kiddified on purpose. When really at the time there was no way I cartoon with the seriousness and dark elements that the new toon has today (or at least had

) would have flown back then. Do you really think Leoanrdo could have gotten away with cutting off Shreddder;s head in the old toon? No.

I would have to agree. Whether you think the OT was bad for Mirage or not, the turtles would not be what they are today without the OT. And maybe to some people, that would have been a good thing but we may have never had the live action movies had there been no 87 series. Without the movie there would be no NTTNM and perhaps no TMNT or 2k3.
Mirage started it all and the OT grabbed an even larger fan base.

*Scandia* · 06-22-2007, 02:12 PM

I do agree that the OT propelled the TMNT to fame.

Part of me wonders why oh why did it have to be so unfaithful to the comic. And part of me just LOVES the insane amount of laughter it brings me. Not to mention that some of the innovations it started have been kept in all future versions. And April the reporter ROCKS.

To me, the OT is the animated version of a gag doujinshi. A doujinshi of humorous side stories.

*Scandia* · 07-19-2007, 01:16 PM

Now that I have watched the entire NT (except for Fast Forward- which I did watch what is considered THE worst episode of it, and it still did NOT manage to turn me off away forever from FF), and also have read a lot of the original Mirage comics, I think I can manage to make a vote.

I have decided to vote for the 2k3 TMNT cartoon.

What made me give the deciding vote to 2k3 and not to Mirage?

2k3 is actually coherent, cohesive, and consistent. They have managed to adapt a lot of good stories from the movies while at the same time getting rid of all the inconsistencies and continuity errors. Everything flows so well- even the filler episodes work well into the main story. Plus they have managed to create some original storylines that work quite well too- such as Ninja Tribunal.

I cannot wait to see more 2k3. While I will still keep getting the Tales Volume 2, and have enjoyed MOST of the Mirage comics I have read, the truth is that some things just don't quite work out. I am glad they polished them for the 2k3 toon.

That, and I like the multi-colored bandannas much better than the all-red ones. More individuality.

I have not read any Archie TMNT comics. I would still like to do so. The OT had its time and place- and it's still great. Movies were awesome. But I will have to pick the 2k3 NT.

View Poll Results: What is your favorite TMNT universe?
Mirage Comics Universe (+ or - Image Vol. 3, up to you)	9	17.31%
Original Cartoon Universe (Fred Wolf)	14	26.92%
Current Cartoon Universe (4Kids, also up to and including Fast Forward)	13	25.00%
Movie Universe (I lump NT:TNM in here + the 4th movie, as both continue 1-3)	10	19.23%
Archie Comics Universe (the "TMNT Adventures" series and its spinoffs/specials)	6	11.54%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

06-16-2007, 09:32 PM	#65
General Traag Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Technodrome Mark III, Dimension X Posts: 174	My favorite TMNT-Universe? Definetely the old cartoon. Maybe silly and not "ninja" enough, but it's great comedy. =] I would really love a sequel with all the old characters (knowing it won't happen) with more mature ninja action AND the comedy involved (krang or the dimension x alone would make up for a entire series not to mention the countless side characters). __________________ -

06-17-2007, 05:52 AM	#67
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I'm leaning towards saying that Mirage is my favorite universe, even though I am relatively new to it. However, I like some aspects of the other universeses better- multicolored bandannas, the pizza/surfer/cowabunga humor, and so on. And I prefer April working as a reporter- which is a job she could take in basically any universe. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

06-22-2007, 11:59 AM	#69
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	sigh I respect that every one is entitled to their own opinion, but seriously why can't fans just respect that the old toon series was just its own interpertation of a dark comic that went it its own direction. with in the context of its own format it did have some good story lines and characters. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

06-22-2007, 12:15 PM	#71
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	the old toon was a cute show for what it was, a kiddie show. It was my first exposure to TMNT and drew me towards being a Raph fan..but the movie did most of that... There were some good fun stories, one of my favorites was Raph Meets His Match...I thought Mona Lisa was a clute little flirt. But with all that, I'm not a big fan of the OT. Gimme Mirage, TMNT1&4, gimme 2K3....I will watch OT but cringe at the poor characterization of my hero. He's not always that sarcastic and light hearted. Of course that part of his persona wouldn't fit well in the OT. When the new show came out in '03...I nearly jumped for joy...okay i did. More accurate representation of all our heros, closest we've seen to the comics. I crave MORE. [fangirl mode]And Raph... drool hahah [/ fangirlmode] __________________

06-12-2007, 04:05 PM	#61
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I was thinking about which Turtle did each universe focus most on. Mirage- I think this one leans towards being Donatello centric, if it were to have a Turtle more emphasized. Many of the storylines feature the sci-fi and technology domain that Donnie focuses on. He gets one of the two transformations in the current Mirage volume 4. OT- Definitely Michelangelo! Pizza, cowabunga, surfer slang, more Mikey-centric episodes than for any other Turtles, and so on. He gets into trouble more than in any other version, and more than any other Turtle. He was the one chosen for the SuperStar special about saying no to drugs. The OT is totally Mikey's world. Movies- Raphael, for sure. While he is the cynical sardonic Turtle in all universes, the movies do show the most about him. In the first one he goes off on his own and is the one to yell for Splinter and the one who hugs him the longest at the end. In the second one again he goes off on his own and gets captured. On the third one he is the one befriending the little boy. And you can see how much the 4th one dwelves on him. NT- From what I have seen, it may be that Leonardo got finally to be the focus on the NT. A lot of the Shredder/Foot/Karai episodes have him as the focus. And he is the one who gets shell shock and who goes to meet the Ancient One first. He even is the one who stays listening to the Ancient One's story while his brothers run off to play. And the first episode is narrated from his point of view. Archie- I have not read any of the Archie comics. However, since Raphael got the girlfriend, do they focus more on him than on any of the other Turtles? Image- I have not read any of them either. TNM- we know exactly who it focuses on.

06-13-2007, 05:36 AM	#63
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I have not watched much of the NT. I am just stating what I have seen in those episodes. They all did meet the Ancient One at the same time- but Leo was the first one to see him again as a teenager. And Mikey's the goofball regardless of the incarnation. Donnie does do a lot of gadgets pretty much everywhere- although I am glad they were highlighted so much in the OT.

06-22-2007, 04:23 AM	#68
Rhodan Mouser Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 9	Hi guys! It feels so good to make the first post. New toon all the way! You know, like many others here I get the OT first but when i found abou the new one I had short but strong anger time over the old series when I learned what blasphemy to the source material it was. Anyway the NT is mature, good plots and it probably has the best from Mirage, which I haven´t read much but from what I know, the toon has actually better writing sometimes. After this i pretty much like archie comics which is probably how 87´s version which should be remembered (too bad that here it was canceled in the moment whenDdon was imprisoned on the floppy disk).

06-22-2007, 12:11 PM	#70
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Because at the time, when we were very young (I think I was around 5), we had no idea about the Mirage comics. Mirage was not a common name to us. As we grew up we learned about it, but for many many years, all we knew of the TMNT was the OT. That's why the fans, including myself, initially had a hard time swallowing a new cartoon 4-5 years ago.

06-22-2007, 12:16 PM	#72
Serp Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 362	I like the Movie Verse and The Archie Comic verse I havent seen the newest Movie Though. and I havent read much of the Mirage series but I read up on it and it seems preety solid.

06-22-2007, 02:12 PM	#75
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I do agree that the OT propelled the TMNT to fame. Part of me wonders why oh why did it have to be so unfaithful to the comic. And part of me just LOVES the insane amount of laughter it brings me. Not to mention that some of the innovations it started have been kept in all future versions. And April the reporter ROCKS. To me, the OT is the animated version of a gag doujinshi. A doujinshi of humorous side stories. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

07-19-2007, 01:16 PM	#76
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Now that I have watched the entire NT (except for Fast Forward- which I did watch what is considered THE worst episode of it, and it still did NOT manage to turn me off away forever from FF), and also have read a lot of the original Mirage comics, I think I can manage to make a vote. I have decided to vote for the 2k3 TMNT cartoon. What made me give the deciding vote to 2k3 and not to Mirage? 2k3 is actually coherent, cohesive, and consistent. They have managed to adapt a lot of good stories from the movies while at the same time getting rid of all the inconsistencies and continuity errors. Everything flows so well- even the filler episodes work well into the main story. Plus they have managed to create some original storylines that work quite well too- such as Ninja Tribunal. I cannot wait to see more 2k3. While I will still keep getting the Tales Volume 2, and have enjoyed MOST of the Mirage comics I have read, the truth is that some things just don't quite work out. I am glad they polished them for the 2k3 toon. That, and I like the multi-colored bandannas much better than the all-red ones. More individuality. I have not read any Archie TMNT comics. I would still like to do so. The OT had its time and place- and it's still great. Movies were awesome. But I will have to pick the 2k3 NT. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!