Mikey in the new series

[Courk]

From what I've seen, I'll agree with that. The other three were almost abusive towards him.

[Sunshine]

I really like Mikey in the new shows I admit they could of made him a little smarter but I love his personality. He has always had lame jokes in every incarnation I've seen but he is still funny and he's the most light-hearted of all the turtles and I think that is a very good thing. They need at least one of them to be the joker of the bunch and to help lighten even the darkest of times.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Fledermaus

Except he realized that he didn't deserve the promotion. He felt guilty, shamed that he didn't have as great of a challenge (since it wasn't long term) compared to his brothers.

However, relative to his own personal weaknesses, he admitted with humility to himself and to everyone that he had a problem. That was a huge step for him and for that Splinter advanced him to chunin. What does Mikey do at the end of the episode? He trains without being a responsible elder or peer ordering him to do so.

Those who are inclined to pursue their "passions" will always have that monster/temptation to fight with. But awareness of that problem is a sign of maturity. As Michelangelo grows more mature he will find ways to work around his negative tendencies instead of letting them drive him, preventing him from fully realizing his potential.

Every person who is easily distracted/has trouble staying on task can relate.

Nice. I guess we'll have to wait and see if Mikey does indeed change or if he remains his usually self that he has been through 5 1/2 seasons of 2k3. My best guess says Mike stays his slacker self but we won't know until we see more FF eps. If he does make a change, he is worthy of the move. If he doesn't, thent that whole show of humility was a clever way of moving to chunin. Sneaky mike.

[Sage Ninja]

the thing with Mikey is, I don't mind him being the jokester of the group, I just don't like when he is acting out in a serious situation and just making an ass of him self. During the duration of an episode I find my self saying "Oh God, SHUT-UP Mikey!!" at least once. It wasn't so bad in the very start of the series but I feel that as time went on the writers compromised his character more and more just to get in a few cheap laughs. Usually at Michaelangelo's expense. Garbageman has got to be the worst episode in the series where Mikey is doing the most embarrassing stuff just to get a laugh. It was not funny. It was obnoxious, the writers wicked compromise his character. The writers got a little better at this in season four but for most of the series the writers really took a lot of liberties with his character just to sell him as comic. Relief. And actually its not so much what Mikey does that makes me cringe its the way his brothers (and other characters) react to his antics that make it the most painful. Every one in the series reacts with a sort of flinchy perplexed/disdainful "what the hell is wrong with you" sort of way toward Michelangelo. Eck, Mikey get no respect lest of all from his brothers, eighther they are smacking or looking down on him. And the smacking (although pretty darn funny most of time) get a bit old after while.

I mean most of the time he deseves it but there are a few times where (as the viewer) I get a bit irritated when I see one of his brothers smack him up side the head.

Its not so much for the action but the fact that Mikey just lets it happen, and doesn't do anything about it. It kind of puts Mikey in a position of submission and I don't like that to much. And its not just the smacking thing, sometimes I just plain don't like how the other turtles talk down to Mikey and he doesn't say anything back. One of the biggest things that one of the turtles said to Mikey that really bugged me was in the episode "Adventures in turtle Sitting" when, after Mikey made some joke about Don throwing up in the van, Raph smacks Mikey and says: "Quite Mikey. The adults are talkinging". I mean it was funny and all but for some reason I thought the comment was a bit on the degrading side and it annoyed me that, 1) it was said, and 2) Mikey didn't say something back. But that could just be my personal bias talking since I like Michaelangelo and don't want to see him as a wimp or talked down too.

I mean Mikey has alot of talent, there is no need to get all scared and chicken out with his talent. Thats why I didn't think it was nessasary for him to act all cowardly like he did for most of "Notes from the Underground" story src. It seemed ridiculous considering when he was left all on his own he actually stepped up and acted usefully. So what the heck was the deal with the freak outs during that arc?

That aside I don't think Michelangelo in this incarnation is dumb. Even though he acts juvinale at times and doesn't think things through, I do think that this is smartest version of Mikey that I have ever seen. In fact I get a little confused why there is so much talk in the show about him not being smart when he has shown that he is.

[sdp]

Mikey is both the carefree member but also the geeky member. at least his obsession with comics are no longer things kids like its very geeky, same with the way he gets about videogames.

He would be my favorite on the new show except sometimes they over do the "kid" gene in him and he becomes annoying.

[Magdolin]

HEY! Don't hurt Mikey's feelings! Everywhere, he's the one who lightened everything in the whole show and movies! Why do some of you not lilke him!?
Dudes and dudettes...i know that some of you don't like me. But there had to be a bit of comedy in the show somewhere. It couldn't be a real serious show. The kids wouldn't like it. Now why don't we all take it easy and just relax. Thats just the way i am in the show. It can't be helped. Now, for some of the people who like me. WHO'S GONNA SHOUT COWABUNGA WITH ME!?


COWABUNGA!!!!

[Revan]

*Bops Mikey on the head*
"What did we talk about?"

[Magdolin]

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE HATE ME SO MUCH!?!?!? * Holds face in hands. Cries feeling hated. Sobs loudly* What did I ever do to you....? * Runs away crying*

[Revan]

I can't speak for everyone but I do not hate mikey. The team needs all four turtles to be complete and I'm sure most will agree with that. Raph often strikes mike but they have one of the strongest bonds. Hey it's better than being almost ignored by mike's other two brothers. Raph seems to show his emotions differently than most.

[Magdolin]

Oh really? well, I'm gonna get off here. Come on Mikey. Let's go to bed.
....Okay...

*Goes to bed*
*Goes to bed*

[Rooish]

Yay, the multiple personality 'Dromers are out tonight ...

Good point about Raph's weird way of expressing emotions, Neutrino. He smacks Mikey. He breaks Leo's swords and almost kills him.

[Hazel-rah]

Mikey is not dumb. He can be childish at times, but mostly he is carefree and just wants to have fun. He has proven he can plan and win a stituation on his own. He does it when he has to, but would rather let his brothers handle it.

I go to work everyday beacause I need a paycheck; do laundry because I need clean clothes; go to the store because I need food; etc. You get the point. I do things because I have to. If I had three brothers that I know would take care of it, I'd let them to.

I think Mikey take the abuse because he knows he is a slacker and figures it is a small trade off for goofing off. He also sees the humor in all things and just lets everything roll of his shell. I wish I could be more like him. Maybe my job wouldn't be giving me a ulser then.

Mike isn't my favorite turtle, but his would be the best personality to have to make real life easier to handle.

Hey I am being Mikey right now. I have a house to clean, bills to pay and dinner to make, but instead I am on the forums.

GO MIKEY!!!!!!

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

Originally Posted by Hazel-rah

Mikey is not dumb. He can be childish at times, but mostly he is carefree and just wants to have fun. He has proven he can plan and win a stituation on his own. He does it when he has to, but would rather let his brothers handle it.

I go to work everyday beacause I need a paycheck; do laundry because I need clean clothes; go to the store because I need food; etc. You get the point. I do things because I have to. If I had three brothers that I know would take care of it, I'd let them to.

I think Mikey take the abuse because he knows he is a slacker and figures it is a small trade off for goofing off. He also sees the humor in all things and just lets everything roll of his shell. I wish I could be more like him. Maybe my job wouldn't be giving me a ulser then.

Mike isn't my favorite turtle, but his would be the best personality to have to make real life easier to handle.

Hey I am being Mikey right now. I have a house to clean, bills to pay and dinner to make, but instead I am on the forums.

GO MIKEY!!!!!!

I agree with all of this. I'm a little like Mikey in lazyness. I think that Mikey goofs off to get his brothers attention

[Revan]

Originally Posted by ninjitsu_magic_47

I agree with all of this. I'm a little like Mikey in lazyness. I think that Mikey goofs off to get his brothers attention

I think he goofs because he wants to avoid the seriousness of life with humor. He can still be intelligent and goofy at the same time. If everyone passes him off as "dumb" due to his sillyness, he doesn't have to deal with any problems cuz someone else will do it themself.

[triplexxx]

And also, what if you had to live with having killed people before? As ninjas, the turtles may have to kill at times, and when yiou kill someone, even justifiably, it's kinda hard not to dwell on it and to not feel remorse over it. Humor can be used to suppress remorse, because if remorse were to get the better of any of the turtles, it could slow them down, taint their skill, and may get them killed.

[Courk]

Going back a few posts and off topic: Does Raph break Leo's swords in the 2k3 series, too, or was that referring to the movie?

[bullet]

leo's swords do break in 2k3, but not cuz of raph, though.

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

I think he goofs because he wants to avoid the seriousness of life with humor. He can still be intelligent and goofy at the same time. If everyone passes him off as "dumb" due to his sillyness, he doesn't have to deal with any problems cuz someone else will do it themself.

Kind of like what I do lol. I don't always like reality either

[Courk]

Originally Posted by bullet

leo's swords do break in 2k3, but not cuz of raph, though.

Sorry to keep hijacking. When does this happen?

And to make this post on-topic:
I just saw The Unconvincing Turtle Titan (or something like that). I was actually dreading this episode, since it doesn't sound like the best plot and I was afraid of Mikey overload. I actually didn't mind it. I think I've seen better episodes, but it wasn't bad. I didn't like the superhero, I like to think there aren't any conventional superheroes in the TMNT world (just aliens and stuff), but that's a subject for another thread. I felt sorry for Mikey when *everyone* was making fun of him. Raph you can expect it from, probably some light teasing from Donnie, but I was shocked at Leo. Poor Mikey.

[bullet]

i'd hate to ruin the plot for ya tho, if you haven't watched.

Spoiler:

when the foot ambushes leo right before shredder's second encounter with'm. after leo was knocked into april's apartment semi-unconscious, shredder got ahold of leo's blades and snapped them into tiny bits. very sad episode.

btw, who hates mikey? i love mikey. go mikey go mikey go.