Timothy/Pulverizer/Mutagen Man- a lost cause?

[victory_angel]

I keep getting the impression that something is Donnie is being drawn out in the episodes where the Pulverizer AKA Mutagen Man is involved. I think the end result will cause Donnie to re-evaluate who he is as a Ninja.

However I don't see a happy ending for the Mutagen Man. I mean that one drop of retro-mutagen was just a mcguffin. So Mr. O'Neil will more then likely revert back to a mutant when the plot says it's appropriate.

But with the Mutagen Man, It's hard to tell if he has any human DNA left, I mean he is purely made of Mutagen. Then again he may be against anything Donnie has to give him because the last time Donnie gave him mutagen it froze him.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by jth

That's what I'm saying though, if Donnie cures him and that's the end, then the story and arc never really ends, Donnie will have to continue to be watching out for him for end's on because of what was told of him, which I think we all know won't happen for the longevity of the show, meaning that line has very little meaning if Donnie just cures Timothy and he lets him be, because Donnie will need to be "forever responsible". Meaning it would have to end in some way.

he won't need to be forever responsible, like a parent needs to let their kid leave the nest, Donnie will know that Tim can take care of himself (hopefully after learning his harsh lesson) so he will no longer have to take responsibility for him.

tragedy does not need to happen :3

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

he won't need to be forever responsible, like a parent needs to let their kid leave the nest, Donnie will know that Tim can take care of himself (hopefully after learning his harsh lesson) so he will no longer have to take responsibility for him.

tragedy does not need to happen :3

Yes, please don't kill Timothy! In the comics it'd be more suitable, but waaaay too dark and depressing for Nick (just IMO).

[Shark_Blade]

What? Too dark?

But Tang Shen's death is not too dark for you? No.. it's all sunshine and rainbow amirite?

I'm all for Timothy's death. Added bonus if it includes a scene of him struggling to stay alive, whimpering and suffocating until he stopped breathing. Total humiliation and destruction. Let him burn down with a building and it all collapsed on top of his disgusting corpse.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

What? Too dark?

But Tang Shen's death is not too dark for you? No.. it's all sunshine and rainbow amirite?

I'm all for Timothy's death. Added bonus if it includes a scene of him struggling to stay alive, whimpering and suffocating until he stopped breathing. Total humiliation and destruction. Let him burn down with a building and it all collapsed on top of his disgusting corpse.

Tang Shen's death was in a flashback and was off screen.

Killing off Timothy could be interesting, it might bring more emotion to the series but are they allowed to kill off characters in cartoons these days (I only watch TMNT so I don't no). If Timothy does die it probably have to be off screen.

[JH24]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

What? Too dark?

But Tang Shen's death is not too dark for you? No.. it's all sunshine and rainbow amirite?

I'm all for Timothy's death. Added bonus if it includes a scene of him struggling to stay alive, whimpering and suffocating until he stopped breathing. Total humiliation and destruction. Let him burn down with a building and it all collapsed on top of his disgusting corpse.

With all respect, but so much hate for a cartoon character?

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I don't think they actually kill Mutagen Man/Timothy though, maybe in a kind of sacrifice. Donnie wouldn't give up on him, and he was already pushed quite a bit in "Mutagen Man Unleashed" yet still he called Timothy a friend.

But either way, if Timothy is cured it will probably take a long time before that happens.

[pennydreadful]

Yeah, Tang Shen's death is easier for me to disconnect from emotionally because it's shown in a flashback, and only still-frame shots are used to even reference the event - plus we don't really see it happen. Just how I feel though; it's all subjective!

[Refractive Reflections]

I still don't get how Timothy/Mutagen Man gets "villainized" by some and looked down upon so much despite his cloying fanboy behavior, when Nick Mikey's enthusiasm is just as annoying as Timothy's. At least Timothy gets a pass for having one's sympathy because he was foolishly ignorant about the mutagen itself, Mikey doesn't have any excuse really.

As for Nick Mikey, I wish for once he would suffer some type of long-term consequence (at least 2-3 episodes longer than the "Mikey Gets Shellacne" episode) for his repeated mistakes/carelessness in handling the mutagen. First, he's consistently seen how horrific this mutagen chemical is to the numerous villains he and his brothers fought. Second, Mikey commented on how gross Timothy's mutation was. Third, he applies a form of mutagen on his skin to make himself better when all previous incidents do not reflect that. Fourth, he sees a horrific mutation of Ice Cream Kitty, but then his fleeting sympathy for its condition is gone when he notices how cute and delicious the kitty is. Fifth, he's more than happy to eat Pizza Face despite Pizza Face once being human.

Ugh... It's a shame that Timothy's one good-hearted intended (yet ignorant) mistake (to be a mutant and help the Turtles) turns him into something horrific, but yet idiotic Nick Mikey's short-sighted logic and fickle emotions to the mutations (despite witnessing many mutations) have no repercussions against Mikey whatsoever. It makes more than enough sense why his other brothers would not take Nick Mikey seriously when some here have been wanting his character to be taken seriously.

If this Nick show wants me take its drama as seriously as it wants me to believe, then I would have to say at this point of the series, Nick Mikey is a bigger "loser" than Timothy was. If life keeps on repeatedly presenting horrific consequences to mutations and Mikey can't learn from those events, especially with his traits of sympathy and compassion for others, then either the character has a serious inability to learn or... the writing is inconsistent and improperly selective.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

I still don't get how Timothy/Mutagen Man gets "villainized" by some and looked down upon so much despite his cloying fanboy behavior, when Nick Mikey's enthusiasm is just as annoying as Timothy's. At least Timothy gets a pass for having one's sympathy because he was foolishly ignorant about the mutagen itself, Mikey doesn't have any excuse really.

As for Nick Mikey, I wish for once he would suffer some type of long-term consequence (at least 2-3 episodes longer than the "Mikey Gets Shellacne" episode) for his repeated mistakes/carelessness in handling the mutagen. First, he's consistently seen how horrific this mutagen chemical is to the numerous villains he and his brothers fought. Second, Mikey commented on how gross Timothy's mutation was. Third, he applies a form of mutagen on his skin to make himself better when all previous incidents do not reflect that. Fourth, he sees a horrific mutation of Ice Cream Kitty, but then his fleeting sympathy for its condition is gone when he notices how cute and delicious the kitty is. Fifth, he's more than happy to eat Pizza Face despite Pizza Face once being human.

Ugh... It's a shame that Timothy's one good-hearted intended (yet ignorant) mistake (to be a mutant and help the Turtles) turns him into something horrific, but yet idiotic Nick Mikey's short-sighted logic and fickle emotions to the mutations (despite witnessing many mutations) have no repercussions against Mikey whatsoever. It makes more than enough sense why his other brothers would not take Nick Mikey seriously when some here have been wanting his character to be taken seriously.

If this Nick show wants me take its drama as seriously as it wants me to believe, then I would have to say at this point of the series, Nick Mikey is a bigger "loser" than Timothy was. If life keeps on repeatedly presenting horrific consequences to mutations and Mikey can't learn from those events, especially with his traits of sympathy and compassion for others, then either the character has a serious inability to learn or... the writing is inconsistent and improperly selective.

well in Mikey's defense at least he had enough sense to use RETRO mutagen, not straight up mutagen XD

and ICKitty wasn't completely his fault, that kitty should have never been brought into an area with dangerous chemicals. Donnie should bottle up that mutagen better too.

but I agree I think Mikey needs to learn a lesson for some of the things he does, he needs more development.