Shredder? But... How? - Page 4

**GK Punk** · 01-06-2004, 05:59 AM

lmao
So true...
...but as a kid it ruled!

**Karpo_007** · 01-06-2004, 09:38 AM

I liked the movie as a kid as well. Now it's just feels too cheesy, but it's the same thing with most of other children's movies too.

*jeff the cheff* · 01-06-2004, 06:54 PM

I still like child humor now, so i can stand the second movie, and I love it. Most people my age can still enjoy that movie, it's still a good movie!!

**GK Punk** · 01-06-2004, 08:32 PM

Well when I watch it now, I think it's a cute kids movie, and can stand it.
But I don't get nearly as much enjoyment out of it as I used to, not even close.

GRiM · 01-07-2004, 10:38 AM

I think the Super Shredder part was way too short. All he did was kill himself! Bah!

Valorxii · 01-07-2004, 10:58 AM

see i think all of your complaints would be more valid if it wasnt meant comedy. its like complaining that the old cartoon wasnt violent enough.

if you wanted to argue technical, we could go on about the turtles not having pupils in the new cartoon.

just as it was an artistic choice, i think this was a producers choice. to have shredder back. i dont think it would have been as appealing without him, as a kid or not.

*That Matt Guy* · 01-07-2004, 11:12 AM

But there is a thing known as continuity. You can't kill a character in one movie, and then have them back virtually unscaved in the next.

**Karpo_007** · 01-07-2004, 11:44 AM

Well I guess that they thought kids wouldn't care how Shredder came back as long as he did. It would be a different tstory if they would have made a film with more serious tone.

*ZariusTwo* · 01-07-2004, 12:45 PM

Exactly, with the new Batman film coming out, it's completly new continunity, if there is a fourth film, it really would'nt be.

Valorxii · 01-07-2004, 09:34 PM

there ya go. Its liek when team rocket flies away into the star, I think they would die on impact.

but yeah if it took itself more serious, then we should as well.

FALLEN ELDOR · 01-08-2004, 01:52 AM

I always just accepted that shredder was just that damn bad that he could survive a fall like that!

I like the second film more then the first, I do wish it wasn't so colorful and had more weapon based combat like the first one, but I though the story was fine. I thought the comedy level was consistent with the first one. What was so cartoony about 2? (other then super shredder heh)

The third one had some bad dialog and even worse costumes, but at least they had more weapon based combat! the worst part of TMNT 3 was the ending I still don't understand why the hell Walker just ran away like a sissy!

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Originally Posted by Buslady

I'd say a year or so. Maybe he hibernated in the garbage the whole time haha.. They never really touch on the timeline.... if it were only a week or so, she sure got an apartment set up pretty damn quick.
I doubt April would be able to stand 5 mutants living in her small apartment for a year...

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Originally Posted by Matthew138

Did the Turtles even mention anything like "How did Shredder survive" in the second movie? I remember Raph talking about how Shredder fell off the building (He spoke of it as if it happened a long time ago, which makes me wonder how long Shredder lounged out in that junkpile)

I always figured being the "highest paid reporter" in NY, she has a couple pay check advancements, found a nice high end apartment over the weekend and had the new furniture delivered right away. Took a few days for the foot to regroup and for shredder to regain consciousness. I would say less then a week, 3-4 days

*That Matt Guy* · 01-08-2004, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FALLEN ELDOR

What was so cartoony about 2? (other then super shredder heh)

Everything! The TMNT obssesing about pizza, Tokka and Razar, the fight at the TGRI lab, dancing, Vanilla Ice, dumb ass foot soldiers, Keno... the list continues.

**GK Punk** · 01-08-2004, 08:09 AM

Hrm. This isn't right with out leo chiming in:

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I already came up with the perfect "Director's Cut" ending for TMNT2, some ways back.

The TMNT face off against SuperShredder, when suddenly, Shredder removes his mask and helmet to reveal KEVIN NASH himself. Nash's "nWo Wolfpac" Music plays as he proceeds to JackKnife Power Bomb each of the TMNT off the pier in rapid-fire succession. Hell, he could take out Vanilla Ice too, for good measure. Of course, there's still ten minutes left in the movie, so Kev proceeds to dip into his usal bag of tricks as he stands in front of the camera, mic in hand... tossing his hair, making jokes about Scott Hall being in rehab, "shout-outs to HBK", jokes about Lex Luger and Viagra, and statements like "the only thing real about this movie is the money"... this continues through the closing credits, with Kev not stopping even after he is cut off by the screen fading to black.

If the movie ended that way, it woulda been Oscar-worthy. Seriously.

There. Much better.

*J Legault* · 01-08-2004, 08:10 AM

When I first saw the sequal on video, I didn't seem to have any problems with the whole Secret of Ooze.

I'm a type of a person that would go for great movies or movies that have alot of comedy with bazar charaters.

But I don't care what other people think about the movies I sometimes see.

And the 2nd one is still my favorite, along with the 3rd and original.

So I don't take any advice from other people on how good movies are.

FALLEN ELDOR · 01-09-2004, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138

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Originally Posted by FALLEN ELDOR

What was so cartoony about 2? (other then super shredder heh)

Everything! The TMNT obssesing about pizza, Tokka and Razar, the fight at the TGRI lab, dancing, Vanilla Ice, dumb ass foot soldiers, Keno... the list continues.

They where as obsessed in the first one about Pizza. Tokka and Razar where awesome costumes and where very believable there childish nature was funny and not over the top at all. The fights at the TGRI lab was a bit comedic as was the opening fights, but I said the fights could have been better before. Vanilla Ice was hot at the time, it wasn't that out of place. the foot did seam less formidable what was wrong with Keno?

Halfshell · 01-09-2004, 03:29 AM

did Walker get away or did he die? This still puzzles me...

FALLEN ELDOR · 01-09-2004, 03:41 AM

English Casey blasted the ground he was standing on with a canon, and walker fell off the side of the into the water. I always wish he would have said "oops" doing it

*That Matt Guy* · 01-09-2004, 04:27 AM

Keno was "filler" for Casey Jones.

Halfshell · 01-09-2004, 04:28 AM

huh?

*That Matt Guy* · 01-09-2004, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfshell

huh?

^^

He was a sorry replacement for Casey. Get it now?

01-07-2004, 10:38 AM	#65
GRiM Mouser Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 7	I think the Super Shredder part was way too short. All he did was kill himself! Bah! __________________ There can be no light without darkness, nor darkness without light.

01-07-2004, 12:45 PM	#69
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,407	Exactly, with the new Batman film coming out, it's completly new continunity, if there is a fourth film, it really would'nt be. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

01-08-2004, 08:10 AM	#74
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	When I first saw the sequal on video, I didn't seem to have any problems with the whole Secret of Ooze. I'm a type of a person that would go for great movies or movies that have alot of comedy with bazar charaters. But I don't care what other people think about the movies I sometimes see. And the 2nd one is still my favorite, along with the 3rd and original. So I don't take any advice from other people on how good movies are. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

01-09-2004, 03:29 AM	#76
Halfshell Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Wouldn't U Like To Know Posts: 531	did Walker get away or did he die? This still puzzles me... __________________ "Post quickly and fade away into the shadow"

01-09-2004, 03:41 AM	#77
FALLEN ELDOR Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 298	English Casey blasted the ground he was standing on with a canon, and walker fell off the side of the into the water. I always wish he would have said "oops" doing it __________________ The first movie was a perfect balance between the adult comics and the children's cartoon!

01-06-2004, 05:59 AM	#61
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	lmao So true... ...but as a kid it ruled!

01-06-2004, 09:38 AM	#62
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I liked the movie as a kid as well. Now it's just feels too cheesy, but it's the same thing with most of other children's movies too.

01-06-2004, 06:54 PM	#63
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I still like child humor now, so i can stand the second movie, and I love it. Most people my age can still enjoy that movie, it's still a good movie!!

01-06-2004, 08:32 PM	#64
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Well when I watch it now, I think it's a cute kids movie, and can stand it. But I don't get nearly as much enjoyment out of it as I used to, not even close.

01-07-2004, 10:58 AM	#66
Valorxii Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	see i think all of your complaints would be more valid if it wasnt meant comedy. its like complaining that the old cartoon wasnt violent enough. if you wanted to argue technical, we could go on about the turtles not having pupils in the new cartoon. just as it was an artistic choice, i think this was a producers choice. to have shredder back. i dont think it would have been as appealing without him, as a kid or not.

01-07-2004, 11:12 AM	#67
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	But there is a thing known as continuity. You can't kill a character in one movie, and then have them back virtually unscaved in the next.

01-07-2004, 11:44 AM	#68
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well I guess that they thought kids wouldn't care how Shredder came back as long as he did. It would be a different tstory if they would have made a film with more serious tone.

01-07-2004, 09:34 PM	#70
Valorxii Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	there ya go. Its liek when team rocket flies away into the star, I think they would die on impact. but yeah if it took itself more serious, then we should as well.

01-09-2004, 04:27 AM	#78
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Keno was "filler" for Casey Jones.

01-09-2004, 04:28 AM	#79
Halfshell Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Wouldn't U Like To Know Posts: 531	huh? __________________ "Post quickly and fade away into the shadow"