Peter Laird announces today that vol 4 will not be published

[CyberCubed]

So what am I to do with the 30 issues of Volume 4 I own?

Re-read them up to the last issue...and then say...that's it, there's no ending to this story or any of these plots?

It really feels like a slap in the face to me. Its as if this were a TV series that was canceled in the middle of a major cliffhanger or something.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It really feels like a slap in the face to me. Its as if this were a TV series that was canceled in the middle of a major cliffhanger or something.

Spectacular Spider-man?

*Throws up all over key board and cries*

[Samhain]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So what am I to do with the 30 issues of Volume 4 I own?

Re-read them up to the last issue...and then say...that's it, there's no ending to this story or any of these plots?

It really feels like a slap in the face to me. Its as if this were a TV series that was canceled in the middle of a major cliffhanger or something.

Yeah it sucks but unfortunatly it isnt up to us. Just another thing to add to the screw-ups of the Tmnt franchise.

[Jephael]

While I am disapointed in seeing Volume 4 unfinished, I'm glad that Peter Laird has decided to take a break from the comics. The poor guy has been running himself ragged the last ten years trying to keep the fans happy with the toylines and the television series. Maybe if we let him have the chance of a more normal life for a couple years he'll come back feeling more relaxed and be ready to finish what he started.

[Brodie]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Spectacular Spider-man?

*Throws up all over key board and cries*

Wolverine & the X-Men?

Throw up on my keyboard too, dawg.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Brodie

Wolverine & the X-Men?

Throw up on my keyboard too, dawg.

Mhmmmmm. I'm more of a Turtles fan than anything Marvel, but those were two awesome shows that got axed for no reason. It's sad to see the TMNT go unfinished, but it is literally down right sickening to see shows like that ended prematurely.

And at least this is the will of the co-creator and writer, not corporate executive fools.

[CyberCubed]

But if the creator/writer himself can't be bothered to finish the story, why should we care?

It almost feel now as if Vol. 4 is pointless. The problem is impacted continuity too much, such as several Tales (almost half of them or so), were either set in the Vol. 4 era or continued from some sort of plotline started in Vol. 4.

If Tales didn't have so many connections to Vol. 4, then we could ignore it, but now its impossible.

And that being said, I would prefer the Mirage universe dies altogether if Vol. 4 isn't finished. Might as well not even bother with anything else.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It almost feel now as if Vol. 4 is pointless.

I agree, I'm gonna give it one more read through then sell the sh*t. What's the full run going for on ebay nowadays?

[TristanHuwJones]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And that being said, I would prefer the Mirage universe dies altogether if Vol. 4 isn't finished. Might as well not even bother with anything else.

So... I should just drop what I'm working on then...?

[ToTheNines]

Don't listen to him lol

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

So... I should just drop what I'm working on then...?

CyberCubed has a tendency to overreact. You just keep working

[CyberCubed]

I'm just tired of TMNT plotlines being started but never finished.

How sick is it that it took 12 years for the Image series to reach its conclusion? Or that its taken 15+ years for Archie's "Forever War" to ever see the light of day?

Now we have to do the same BS with Volume 4? It just disgusts me. I don't follow comics just to get no closure, this isn't Marvel/DC where they reboot the whole thing every 10 years and never end, TMNT comics NEED an ending.

[Slap-Happy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I feel Vol. 4 is pointless.

Fixed.

I didn't care for Vol. $ from the start. Lawson seemed to get too stylized, the plots involved too much, I don't know, tech based stuff.

It's more sad for me that Tales has ended. The perfect turtle stories (for me), are the ones grounded in reality (as much as a teenage mutant ninja turtle can be).

[jaymq]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm just tired of TMNT plotlines being started but never finished.

How sick is it that it took 12 years for the Image series to reach its conclusion? Or that its taken 15+ years for Archie's "Forever War" to ever see the light of day?

Now we have to do the same BS with Volume 4? It just disgusts me. I don't follow comics just to get no closure, this isn't Marvel/DC where they reboot the whole thing every 10 years and never end, TMNT comics NEED an ending.

I understand that Laird wants time away, but this pretty much sums my feelings up as well.

[DrSpengler]

I have a hard time respecting a comic where the characters break out of what they're doing to go on a page-long rant about how tremendously awesome Apple products are and how everyone should own one because they're totally the bestest thing ever.

And I respect the people who would write something like that in a comic even less.


Seriously, you can argue about the quality of stories like "April is a magic doodle" all day and night, but the gratuitous Apple-shilling in that book was just bad.

Remember when Laird and Eastman considered themselves indy comic "rebels" and regularly lambasted "corporate comics" in the editorial sections of Volume 1?

Hard to believe Laird went from that to "drop everything you're doing and buy Apple products RIGHT NOW!"

The man had no artistic integrity of any kind left by the time Volume 4 came around. So Laird owning the Turtles? Viacom owning the Turtles? Makes no different. Laird has as much integrity as an artist as that soulless corporation.

[Roseangelo]

Gee, I remember the days where I got all sorts of crap for calling out Volume 4 for what it was. Now it's almost trendy.

[discordiatookie]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

but the gratuitous Apple-shilling in that book was just bad.

When I read this on Laird's blog:

with TMNT I would do all of the dialogue, with no input from Jim. This is not to say that Jim's artwork did not affect my dialogue -- to the contrary, I often found that some interesting and unexpected detail Jim had added to a panel, or the way he laid out a scene, or an expression he gave to a character's face would lead me to think of some line or two or three of dialogue I very likely would NOT have thought of otherwise.

My first thought was "Heh - betcha that wee ad for Apple was cos Lawson had drawn an Apple logo on that laptop..."

In all seriousness though, I really loved vol 4, sure there were a coupla gripes, but for the most part I had a blast. And i'm glad that we'll be getting some sort of ending online - although I would prefer the final comic, at least this is something that I can live with. Laird did say, way back in issue 2 of vol 4, that he would only do the series as long as he's having fun with it. So for him to end it prematurely just aint that surprising for me - as it was half expected anyway.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Gee, I remember the days where I got all sorts of crap for calling out Volume 4 for what it was. Now it's almost trendy.

Now you know how I felt when I was calling out TMNT Part 4 for what it was.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Now you know how I felt when I was calling out TMNT Part 4 for what it was.

There was a TMNT part 4?

OH! The cartoon they released into theaters.
Right right, carry on then.

[DrSpengler]

I don't recall there being THAT much mandatory praise for Volume 4 back when it was still being published. The only person I remember getting tremendously indignant at any criticism of the book was Peter Laird...