Quick Forum Consensus. New Film - Like, Dislike, Neutral?

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

I would love to see the tmnt perform aikido when beating people up.

[shuriken]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Because in one moment he is a 'gruff, Batman-voice, I want to Leave' type of character...then it's "I'm dancing in an elevator"?

The elevator scene is a hit or miss for many people.
Mikey did mention earlier that they have a "hip hop group" and Raph was their "hype man". Now when I first heard that line I felt it was just thrown in there for laughs BUT after the elevator scene it sort of ties those both idea in there. TO ME (my opinion let me have it, think its stupid er whatever I don't care) it worked because Mikey started it to loosen up after knowing that they have very little time to stop the city from being poisoned. The other 3 at first looked tense and hesitant but eventually loosened up and joined in before their showdown with Shredder.

I still hated the fact that they were super strong bulletproof Turtles but meh.
I know this was no perfect movie but I liked it more than I disliked it for sure.

[fridaynightdestination]

[Stingray69]

I liked it.

but I felt like my being a big fan of the first movie kind of got in the way of my enjoying this one. The tribute seens where they rehashed old stuff was nice and I did like it. But at the same time felt it was unnecessary but I understand why it was done.

[RskimB]

I'm surprised the majority of the board liked it. i guess this movie really was a success. It pleasantly surprised me at times but I cant say that I'm a fan of the April O'Neil and the Ninja Turtles movie.

[Slade]

Just saw it. I'm neutral. I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. Origin was stupid. April's too tied to everything. Splinter is hideous. Knoxville should not have voiced Leo.

Had some funny moments. Shredder kicks ass.


Hated Donatello.

[Kas]

I disliked it, IMO the story was awful. I only enjoyed turtle's personalities.

[RaphaelinSTL]

I hated the movie for what it offered me. The more I think of the glaring plot holes, character development, re-edits that proved the people creating this had no confidence and lack of overall creative vision...the more I get upset this movie has been as successful as it has been. It makes me really wish that Disney would just buy Viacom and perhaps give the TMNT franchise the Marvel treatment and allow people to work on an IP that give a **** about giving people something fun, exciting and substantial as opposed to something where you feel the need to just eat popcorn and take it for what it is at surface level.

I also started to think about April O' Neil's character and how Michelangelo and Vernon act with her. It's borderline sexual harassment with how aggressive they're being towards her. Megan Fox is nowhere near as sexualized as she was in the Transformers movies but men around her treat her like a piece of meat. Anytime Mikey is talking to April, EVERYTHING he's saying is in some sort of comforting or pushy manner that is supposed to be cute but ends up being entirely creepy and obsessive. Seriously, I can't recall anything that he said that wasn't in some form of fashion to hit on her or to get the two of them alone. I know that's in Mike's character to be a little flirty but it was nowhere the aggression and straight up fraternity douchebag-isms that's displayed in this film. Michelangelo, on top of his obnoxious "comedy lines" in the film, displays the fact of how I hate how all the characters were handled in this movie.

Now look at Vern, his isn't as in your face as Mike's is...but he's another character that's essentially trying to help her out because he has a crush on her and basically wants to sleep with her. He makes remarks to how attractive she is, stares at her ass, says "I'll play your game" after getting off the phone with her (What, the game of pretending to be a friend so I can sleep with you?) and even makes a remark about dropping a pretty girl off at a friend's house. What the hell? It's supposed to be in fun but that's more of the Michael Bay-isms showing it's ugly side.

And how are we supposed to take April seriously at her job? For someone that apparently went to journalism school (I could be getting that quote wrong) she sure is pretty terrible at her job. For being so convinced that the turtles are the "vigalantes", why couldn't she come up with a better pitch to show her boss that the turtles are in fact the people helping to stop the Foot. Instead of cueing the video up to show one of the turtles breaking the glass with his damn head/beak, April shows her video of turtles in a jar and eating pizza I believe. She ends up getting fired for this and it's a complete slap in the face of what makes her character so special. That scene's only purpose was to show how crazy she's becoming due to this story and as a gag. It's like the movie is making fun of it's own concept and not taking itself seriously.

I'm all for a movie laughing at itself, most Marvel movies find a way to do that....but those films still find a way to tell a story that is rich in detail and allows you to insert the world and play by it's rules. This movie had no such luck and on top of the fact that I can't stand that they're essentially super human, bullet proof, ninja in title only monsters...really makes me sad that we're going to see concepts of the TMNT lore finally put to screen in sequels but within this god awful version.

Oh well. At least I still have the old movies, old comic books, old cartoon, old toys, new cartoon and new comic book to enjoy. Platinum Dunes won't ever be able to take that way from me.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

^You have already established that you didn't like it. You did before this post of yours came along.

[Leo656]

...There's a limit on how many times anyone's allowed to state their case?

Didn't know that was a rule. Sounds like a sh*tty one. I don't think it's real.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think little kids and the MTV generation liked the movie, but those of us over 20 probably didn't.

Cubed, Most of us who grew up with the OT ARE the MTV generation! Seriously- MTV stopped being relevant around the time they stopped actually showing MUSIC VIDEOS. Sometime in the mid to late 90's, in other words.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Who is the "Mtv generation" these days, I thought it was those who originally grew up on it way back and are "old" now.

Because that said... 35 here and I liked it enough to consider checking it out again. It's not perfect, definitely some issues there, but hoping they will be resolved/improved in the sequel.

You are correct! 37 here, and I for one loved it! I was one who saw it twice, too, and I caught a lot of things in the second viewing that didn't make much sense the first time.

Originally Posted by Darth Knuckles

I am one who liked it too. Honestly, it did take me a second viewing to iron out everything story wise, but after I did that I liked it a lot.

Same here. I liked it even more after the second watch-through, especially some of the lines that go by kind of fast during the action scenes.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Leo656

...There's a limit on how many times anyone's allowed to state their case?

Didn't know that was a rule. Sounds like a sh*tty one. I don't think it's real.

Thanks man.

Originally Posted by ScrewtheMirageTMNT

^You have already established that you didn't like it. You did before this post of yours came along.

LOL. O U MAD?

[Electric]

Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

Just saw it. I'm neutral. I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. Origin was stupid. April's too tied to everything. Splinter is hideous. Knoxville should not have voiced Leo.

Had some funny moments. Shredder kicks ass.


Hated Donatello.

You leave Donatello alone! He was perfect!

Haha, no really though, id like to know what about this donnie you didnt like

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Thanks man.

No problem, just my Defender Streak.

Am I mistaken, or weren't you another cat that was looking forward to the flick until you saw it? 'Cause when the dude said you already hated it way beforehand, that didn't sound right. I might be getting people mixed up though.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Leo656

No problem, just my Defender Streak.

Am I mistaken, or weren't you another cat that was looking forward to the flick until you saw it? 'Cause when the dude said you already hated it way beforehand, that didn't sound right. I might be getting people mixed up though.

Haha, well it's much appreciated!

I think what ScrewtheMirageTMNT was trying to get at (lovely user name btw) was that I've already thrown my weight around on why I didn't care for the film and now this "too long, didn't read" post just further states my displeasure for it. However, most of the points I dive into are things I haven't already discussed with people on the board. I'm sorry if it seems like I have sour grapes when it comes to this movie, but there's just so much wrong with it overall I feel the need to discuss.

Oh and I was actually excited for the movie prior to actually leaving the theater after watching it. I warmed up to the designs after watching the second trailer and I was super anxious to go see this thing. The Rotten Tomato scores were disheartening, but it didn't seem to sway my anticipation for it. Besides, critics have never been extremely kind to TMNT films. I predicted and had hoped the score would've landed in that 60% range, but jesus christ was I off.

Did I think it was going to be my favorite TMNT film or in my top 5 this year? Not quite. I didn't think it would ever be able to dethrone TMNT 1990 as my favorite Ninja Turtle film, but it could be a nice second. Well, this movie is a flat fourth favorite of mine after watching it. It's just not a very well put together piece of film.

[Bossanova]

I finally saw it just a few minutes ago, i dont understand how anyone can dislike it, but to each his or her own i guess. Sure they changed some stuff, but like IDW splinter says "change is the only constant". i do agree that it could of been a little bit longer though, could of made a big difference for the plot and characters (mainly Shredder).

[Davetello]

I liked parts of it but disliked more of it. I hate to say it but meh.

Perhaps it will grow on me on repeat viewings.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Haha, well it's much appreciated!

I think what ScrewtheMirageTMNT was trying to get at (lovely user name btw) was that I've already thrown my weight around on why I didn't care for the film and now this "too long, didn't read" post just further states my displeasure for it. However, most of the points I dive into are things I haven't already discussed with people on the board. I'm sorry if it seems like I have sour grapes when it comes to this movie, but there's just so much wrong with it overall I feel the need to discuss.

Oh and I was actually excited for the movie prior to actually leaving the theater after watching it. I warmed up to the designs after watching the second trailer and I was super anxious to go see this thing. The Rotten Tomato scores were disheartening, but it didn't seem to sway my anticipation for it. Besides, critics have never been extremely kind to TMNT films. I predicted and had hoped the score would've landed in that 60% range, but jesus christ was I off.

Did I think it was going to be my favorite TMNT film or in my top 5 this year? Not quite. I didn't think it would ever be able to dethrone TMNT 1990 as my favorite Ninja Turtle film, but it could be a nice second. Well, this movie is a flat fourth favorite of mine after watching it. It's just not a very well put together piece of film.

It's like you're trying to prove to people that don't need to be proven, I just see this as an exercise in the form of an obsolete endeavor, but hey. If it makes you feel better then so be it. Oh and btw, I recently looked through your posts, a number of them confirmed what I said posts ago. From them, it is as clear as day that you largely disliked the movie before you said "Lol. O u mad?" to me. The movie didn't take it's self seriously? That too is funny coming from someone who liked a certain version of tmnt (the mirage version) which took them selves seriously but only to poke fun at comic books that were legitimately serious. Seeing as how people are offended by the content of this movie, I really think they should stay the hell away from rated R movies if they are that easily offended. What transpired in this is nothing compared to the content of them.

[Leo656]

"An exercise in the form of an obsolete endeavor"....? Ooooof.

I completely get that you're trying to say, "It's pointless", but in fancying it up you completely mangled the syntax. Like, brutally. Half of those words don't even fit; or, at the very least, they're not the best words for what you're trying to say.

Sorry, kind of a grammar Nazi.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by ScrewtheMirageTMNT

It's like you're trying to prove to people that don't need to be proven, I just see this as an exercise in the form of an obsolete endeavor, but hey. If it makes you feel better then so be it. Oh and btw, I recently looked through your posts, a number of them confirmed what I said posts ago. From them, it is as clear as day that you largely disliked the movie before you said "Lol. O u mad?" to me. The movie didn't take it's self seriously? That too is funny coming from someone who liked a certain version of tmnt (the mirage version) which took them selves seriously but only to poke fun at comic books that were legitimately serious. Seeing as how people are offended by the content of this movie, I really think they should stay the hell away from rated R movies if they are that easily offended. What transpired in this is nothing compared to the content of them.

Huh? Man, you're missing some of my points by a mile.

Yes, you're right. Most of my posts have dealt with my negativity towards the film. Your notion of bringing up the fact that I've mentioned my dislike of the film is almost like you saying "DUDE, WE GOT IT...STOP" over the fact that I'm bringing up more points as to why I felt it was a bad film. I get it that it might be something you don't agree with, but regardless....they are my opinions on why I feel this film is entirely flawed.

Also, people really need to stop bringing up the fact that TMNT was originally just an inside joke as a crutch when it comes to the movie's bad/nonsensical plot and lack of creativity & character. Something as ridiculous as a concept like Guardians of the Galaxy is an example of when you take an IP and treat the material with respect (even if the concept is goofy) you can still come away with a story and a film that helps you become immersed in the world it creates for you. This film didn't do that and it comes across laughing at it's material as opposed to laughing with it. If you don't see that, fine. Those are your eyes....not mine.

My taste is my own taste. I can enjoy a movie like Salo: 120 Days of Sodom just as much as I can eat my popcorn and watch Captain America...but the problem is when a movie isn't confident in itself is when the cracks in the film become apparent. I'm sorry most people here just don't seem to acknowledge or care about them as much.

The major offensive with this film is just how little of an effort they put in to it and how successful it's become. That's the true offensive part.

Anyway, no need to continue discussing this in this thread. Carry on everybody.