Next Mutation: was it really all bad? - Page 5

*Bowser_Koopa* · 11-02-2003, 05:57 AM

i don't know but i preffer Kevin's tmnt first sketch

Savanti Romero · 11-02-2003, 03:05 PM

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I will still honor Kevin Eastman with being one of the greatest contributors to the TMNT of all time. If my memory serves me correctly, he was The One who came up with "Ninja Turtles" and "Teenage Mutant" was added on to that. Besides that I really don't think TNM was that bad.

SHHH!!

The universe may stop if we remember things that were erased from history!

/me is just being silly now

I realize you're just bein' silly dude, but Eastman simply can not be forgotten, whether Laird wants it or not. If it weren't for him, there wouldn't have been any TMNT at all. The idea came from his original sketch. Plus, c'mon.. We ALL love his edgy side of the TMNT. Don't we? DON'T WE?

Thank you Elite 5 Raph. Eastman is incredibly important. TNM should not be forgotten, and not be considered the "Dark Age of Turtles." I do remember the days when the Turtles were more edgy in the early comics. A few deaths is not that bad and versus some crime is needed.

TNM live on!

*Bowser_Koopa* · 11-10-2003, 07:59 AM

just brought this topic back for jarrah

*TigerClaw* · 11-10-2003, 04:03 PM

I thought the Next Mutation was cool when I saw it years ago, It was the closest thing we got to a live action version of the TMNT on TV after all 3 movies, Anyways, One thing that did kind of disapointed me about this series was a key character that was missing, a character who has been a part of the TMNT for a very long time, April O'Neal was nowhere in site on that series.

*Bowser_Koopa* · 11-10-2003, 04:38 PM

wow! you're right i never realized she was gone bwahahahah!!!!!!.....i can't believe it

~~Jarrah White~~ · 11-18-2003, 01:39 PM

Okay, I've seen The Next Mutation on DVD. I don't have a problem with Venus, what I do got a problem with is the way they made this show, the fight scenes are pointless, the turtles bearly use they're weapons and seeing the Foot soldiers run away like cowards and come back to Shredder with bandages and slings is just childish. And I hate the way The Shredder was defeated, it was a complete insult to the original comics, freeing him from his evil side then Saki having a trantrom, oh please. At what point did the Turtles forget that The Shredder killed Hamato Yoshi? Another thing that spoils the fight scenes are those cartoon noises played everytime someone gets beaten. I also think the script was badly written, though some lines were funny,

Foot: But the rat had a stick.
Shredder: And what did the turtle have? A pink flower?

Another thing, those dragon creatures are just too weird for my taste, and not to mention the absence of April O'Neil & Casey Jones, or even Baxter Stockman.

I think I'll stick with the 2003 series.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 11-18-2003, 01:43 PM

Next Mutation on DVD?

~~Jarrah White~~ · 11-18-2003, 01:44 PM

Sorry, I ment VHS

**Kali** · 11-18-2003, 03:26 PM

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I also think the script was badly written, though some lines were funny,

Well, to be fair, it wasn't really bad writing, but bad directing. And generally bad acting. Though I agree that some of the lines were really bad.

*tOkKa* · 11-18-2003, 08:49 PM

-->> ..eh.. coulda been worse..

*ZariusTwo* · 11-18-2003, 09:22 PM

I would chop Venus' head off and ram it up her ass.

THAT was how bad "Next Mutation" was, and I can't beleive there are some comedians who took lessons from Seinfeld telling me this was GOOD

Nice try, the plot was retarded, the characters dry, insulting to the comic, and the way they handled Shredder was disgusting.

*tOkKa* · 11-18-2003, 09:30 PM

-->> .. yeh yeh yeh..

..MEow-m-mmeow meow..

Savanti Romero · 11-19-2003, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I would chop Venus' head off and ram it up her ass.

THAT was how bad "Next Mutation" was, and I can't beleive there are some comedians who took lessons from Seinfeld telling me this was GOOD

Nice try, the plot was retarded, the characters dry, insulting to the comic, and the way they handled Shredder was disgusting.

A real slam to the Turtles!

TMNTFanCrys · 11-26-2003, 01:36 PM

who hasn't seen any of the "Next Mutation?"

Anyone wanna send me some clips or something so maybe I can be up to speed and post a real opinion on here. Like, when was this show actually going on?

(I know, I'm so late on everything, and excuse the "like" up there. I don't want to sound like some valley girl or something like that).

~~Jarrah White~~ · 11-26-2003, 01:39 PM

Came out back in 97, realised on video, only ran for one season. try www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com you'll find your clips there.

Savanti Romero · 11-26-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNTFanCrys

who hasn't seen any of the "Next Mutation?"

Anyone wanna send me some clips or something so maybe I can be up to speed and post a real opinion on here. Like, when was this show actually going on?

(I know, I'm so late on everything, and excuse the "like" up there. I don't want to sound like some valley girl or something like that).

Only one video (VHS) came out called East Meets West which covers 4 or 5 episodes. I guess they cut a bunch of stuff out though.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 11-26-2003, 03:25 PM

Bashing Next Mutation is NOT bashing Eastman, Eastman had no more to do with that show than Laird did and, I am fairly certain that if he was still involved with TMNT, Next-Mutation, and probably Image TMNT would have STILL been "erased" from the continuity. I'm pretty sure the only thing done differently would be Volume 4.

Laird has never tried to "erase" Eastman's influence. Eastman simply got "turtled out" and wanted to concentrate on Heavy Metal for awhile so he sold his half to Laird so Laird could do Volmue 4 solo. Associating Eastman with the discontinued versions simply doesn't make sense.

Savanti Romero · 11-26-2003, 06:23 PM

Well sorry Tetsu.

Jamezer · 11-26-2003, 09:46 PM

With the Next mutayion, i think that they were just trying to p!$$ turtle fans off. They brought in that girl turtle, which would have been fine, if she had only been a guest friend, like mondo ghecko in the original cartoon. Making her their long lost sister was very cliche' It also took away from the TMNT tradition. I think that they were trying a little too hard to be politically correct. The only thing that i half respected about the show was that shredder was at least in the first episode. To me, TMNT isnt itself without Shredder as the main villan. Also the way that they got rid of Shredder was too power-rangery, how can they add all that mystical crap in there. I thought that the secrets of the ooze were magical enough. The next mutation, is indeed the blacksheep of the TMNT saga.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 11-29-2003, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Savanti Romero

Well sorry Tetsu.

Ah, it's ok!

11-18-2003, 08:49 PM	#90
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11-18-2003, 09:22 PM	#91
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,341	I would chop Venus' head off and ram it up her ass. THAT was how bad "Next Mutation" was, and I can't beleive there are some comedians who took lessons from Seinfeld telling me this was GOOD Nice try, the plot was retarded, the characters dry, insulting to the comic, and the way they handled Shredder was disgusting. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-18-2003, 09:30 PM	#92
tOkKa tOkKie-Pokie,puddin'n PIE Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pajamas out of the water on the elephant was sweating a lemon. Posts: 1,729	-->> .. yeh yeh yeh.. ..MEow-m-mmeow meow.. __________________ 666 !!terrible2z /GGM!!/T.G.R.I./ ..モンスターのカメを解読しなさい。

11-26-2003, 01:36 PM	#94
TMNTFanCrys Thug Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Louisiana, USA Posts: 63	Am I the only one... who hasn't seen any of the "Next Mutation?" Anyone wanna send me some clips or something so maybe I can be up to speed and post a real opinion on here. Like, when was this show actually going on? (I know, I'm so late on everything, and excuse the "like" up there. I don't want to sound like some valley girl or something like that).

11-26-2003, 03:25 PM	#97
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Bashing Next Mutation is NOT bashing Eastman, Eastman had no more to do with that show than Laird did and, I am fairly certain that if he was still involved with TMNT, Next-Mutation, and probably Image TMNT would have STILL been "erased" from the continuity. I'm pretty sure the only thing done differently would be Volume 4. Laird has never tried to "erase" Eastman's influence. Eastman simply got "turtled out" and wanted to concentrate on Heavy Metal for awhile so he sold his half to Laird so Laird could do Volmue 4 solo. Associating Eastman with the discontinued versions simply doesn't make sense. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

11-02-2003, 05:57 AM	#81
Bowser_Koopa Very yes Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Not so far, go back a little Posts: 1,849	i don't know but i preffer Kevin's tmnt first sketch

11-10-2003, 07:59 AM	#83
Bowser_Koopa Very yes Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Not so far, go back a little Posts: 1,849	just brought this topic back for jarrah

11-10-2003, 04:03 PM	#84
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 14,160	I thought the Next Mutation was cool when I saw it years ago, It was the closest thing we got to a live action version of the TMNT on TV after all 3 movies, Anyways, One thing that did kind of disapointed me about this series was a key character that was missing, a character who has been a part of the TMNT for a very long time, April O'Neal was nowhere in site on that series.

11-10-2003, 04:38 PM	#85
Bowser_Koopa Very yes Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Not so far, go back a little Posts: 1,849	wow! you're right i never realized she was gone bwahahahah!!!!!!.....i can't believe it

11-18-2003, 01:39 PM	#86
~~Jarrah White~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,394	Okay, I've seen The Next Mutation on DVD. I don't have a problem with Venus, what I do got a problem with is the way they made this show, the fight scenes are pointless, the turtles bearly use they're weapons and seeing the Foot soldiers run away like cowards and come back to Shredder with bandages and slings is just childish. And I hate the way The Shredder was defeated, it was a complete insult to the original comics, freeing him from his evil side then Saki having a trantrom, oh please. At what point did the Turtles forget that The Shredder killed Hamato Yoshi? Another thing that spoils the fight scenes are those cartoon noises played everytime someone gets beaten. I also think the script was badly written, though some lines were funny, Foot: But the rat had a stick. Shredder: And what did the turtle have? A pink flower? Another thing, those dragon creatures are just too weird for my taste, and not to mention the absence of April O'Neil & Casey Jones, or even Baxter Stockman. I think I'll stick with the 2003 series.

11-18-2003, 01:43 PM	#87
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Next Mutation on DVD?

11-18-2003, 01:44 PM	#88
~~Jarrah White~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,394	Sorry, I ment VHS

11-26-2003, 01:39 PM	#95
~~Jarrah White~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,394	Came out back in 97, realised on video, only ran for one season. try www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com you'll find your clips there.

11-26-2003, 06:23 PM	#98
Savanti Romero Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 600	Well sorry Tetsu. __________________ "The sceptor has returned at last; and it's all mine!" -Savanti Romero, Vol. 1 issue 47 1992 AKA: [email protected] utromheadquarters.0catch.com

11-26-2003, 09:46 PM	#99
Jamezer Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Sewers of New York Posts: 119	With the Next mutayion, i think that they were just trying to p!$$ turtle fans off. They brought in that girl turtle, which would have been fine, if she had only been a guest friend, like mondo ghecko in the original cartoon. Making her their long lost sister was very cliche' It also took away from the TMNT tradition. I think that they were trying a little too hard to be politically correct. The only thing that i half respected about the show was that shredder was at least in the first episode. To me, TMNT isnt itself without Shredder as the main villan. Also the way that they got rid of Shredder was too power-rangery, how can they add all that mystical crap in there. I thought that the secrets of the ooze were magical enough. The next mutation, is indeed the blacksheep of the TMNT saga. __________________ The Great One! Cartman: "My mom says that there's a lot of black people in Africa"