can i ask a serious Q...?

[Buslady]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

The movie universe doesn't speak for the entire TMNT line. On top of that bi means they like both genders so how can you say just because he's crushing for a girl he isn't bi?

Really your being silly now. this whole thread is silly!

Well DUH....who says i can't be silly in a silly topic?????


well he hasn't crushed on Casey! lol!!

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by Rooish

Dudette, he totally enjoyed wearing that dress.

Not that that makes him gay--Fun Fact--there are more heterosexual cross-dressing men than there are homosexual ones. Granted ... there are a lot fewer homosexuals in this world, so I don't know the statistics of whether proportionally more homosexual men cross-dress.

ok, in the 2k3 series Mikey did appear like he enjoyed wearing a dress. Once in the outer space arc where he was wearing pink drag (he even had big ol' klunky boobs ) and the second Nobody episode where he dressed up like an elderly woman he...was really getting into his role , even going so far as to call Dontello his husband . Geez I guess Mikey does like to cross dress and role play. But he really needs to leave his brothers out of it. Poor Donny

However even though New toon Michaelangelo seemed to willingly put on a dress, old too Michaelangelo definately didn't like wearing one and seemed to be embarrassed by it, that one time he was made to dress up like a flower woman in season two.

[Rooish]

Oh, yeah! He really seemed uncomfortable in that situation.

[gobo]

He was uncomfortable until the very end, when he made a joke about it.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by gobo

He was uncomfortable until the very end, when he made a joke about it.

whoa-oh!!! o.O what's up doc, can we rock?

[gobo]

And, my mom was just telling me about how her brother is getting rid of a hoop that Shaq used to play on.

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by gobo

He was uncomfortable until the very end, when he made a joke about it.

well hell yeah he has to save face some how that is sort of like when you get so sh*t faced you puke in front of your buddies and they rag on you about it, so yeah joke along with them to make you look less like a idiot

Does any one here think that maybe the turtles are pansexual? (jeez, realy hope I have this one right) Meaning they could get sexual arousal or enjoyment out of anything thsat they like which isn't limited to the confines of male/female or the same specious

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

Does any one here think that maybe the turtles are pansexual? (jeez, realy hope I have this one right) Meaning they could get sexual arousal or enjoyment out of anything thsat they like which isn't limited to the confines of male/female or the same specious

I might sound dumb, but I could never understand the whole concept behind "pansexuality" and how it really differs from bisexuality, to be honest. I've always regarded that term as the as falling in love with someone's personality or soul - not with their genitals, which are like, the secondary issue at that moment. It's like - you meet somebody over the net, you chat with that person, you two are enchanted and infatuated by each other, you two meet in real life, you discover it's a member of your own sex you have been corresponding with for so long, but... strangely, you don't quit all your further contacts in sheer disgust, because it's like, the best person you have ever met in your whole life. So, you go on with the romantic allure.

But I guess I present a little too big romantic approach here, maybe.

What does "getting sexual arousal or enjoyment out of anything that you like" mean, anyway? It's like, you can fall in love with a chair?

[Tinuvielsdreams]

What is it with this thread, it sucked me in !
From what I gather the guys have been pretty devoid of contact with the exception of each other and Splinter until they were teenagers. I am sure they romanticize even the slightest thought of companionship which for them it must seem pretty impossible. April for instance the most common person to bring up it seems was the first real opportunity to be close to someone human which they are partially, and someone of the opposite gender, neither of which had been in their lives prior. Crushing probably did ensue like movie one suggests.
Now as far as love and relations goes everyone or everything deserves it in one form or another, but with them I don't think the thought would really arise to often. Sure sometimes in the comics it comes up but I think its a far out concept even for them because of what they are and how they have been brought up. I just don't know that they would think it fathomable, they probably just assume they will be the last of their kind.

[syd]

well whatever you think,you kno,i don't think that my original topic sux.=x

[Scandia]

I just don't know that they would think it fathomable, they probably just assume they will be the last of their kind.

This is brought up by April in the "Sons of the Silent Age" comic. She mentions "the last four males of their species". She says it first about the mermen- and then realizes that this applies to the Turtles as well.

[Wanda]

Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

I might sound dumb, but I could never understand the whole concept behind "pansexuality" and how it really differs from bisexuality, to be honest.

I think the term pansexuality was meant to replace the term bisexuality, because bi means two, and it's problematic for some people.

Mostly people consider that there are only two sex (male and female, but there are also the intersex) and two gender identities (man and woman, but there's also genderless and androgyne).

I've always regarded that term as the as falling in love with someone's personality or soul - not with their genitals, which are like, the secondary issue at that moment.

And you're right on that one. But honestly, some people do think that bisexuals really need a male and a female to be satisfied. But it just isn't true.

What does "getting sexual arousal or enjoyment out of anything that you like" mean, anyway? It's like, you can fall in love with a chair?

Yeah, this is why I don't like the term pansexuality either. It really means like everything-goes-sexuality.

If one gets sexual arousal from a chair, it's called a fetish. If one falls in love with a chair, he/she might be a chairsexual.

I usually get along with these two terms by thinking, that bisexual referrs to genitals (for example: "I don't mind what sex my partner is, as long as she/he is more feminine than I am"), and pansexuality to both genital issues and gender identity ("I don't care what sex or gender identity my partner has").

Okay, my examples suck, but I tried.

It's pretty tricky any way to define sexuality. It's like one's own genitals are referred to the one's s/he is in interested in. Like that "I'm a woman and I like men, so that makes me hetero." It would be a lot more easier, if everyone who are capable of falling in love with men could be called as...eh...mensexuals for lack of better word, no matter what sex they themselves are. And if it's purely sexual (like some who identify themselves as bisexual can't fall in love with people of same sex) it should be called as a manfetish.

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Wanda

I think the term pansexuality was meant to replace the term bisexuality, because bi means two, and it's problematic for some people. Mostly people consider that there are only two sex (male and female, but there are also the intersex) and two gender identities (man and woman, but there's also genderless and androgyne).

Oh yeah. Now I get it. Thanks Wanda!

Originally Posted by Wanda

If one gets sexual arousal from a chair, it's called a fetish. If one falls in love with a chair, he/she might be a chairsexual.

I'm in love with chess. Does that makes me chessosexual? After all, it's all about queens and mating, you know...

Originally Posted by Wanda

I usually get along with these two terms by thinking, that bisexual referrs to genitals (for example: "I don't mind what sex my partner is, as long as she/he is more feminine than I am"), and pansexuality to both genital issues and gender identity ("I don't care what sex or gender identity my partner has").

For a while, I considered bisexuality as the "ability" of switching between males and females - but never being attracted to both genders at the same time. Like, you could reprogram yourself due to the surrounding conditions - or just pull your lever. After all - "your door swings both sides" but it's never on those both sides at the same time. Unlike in case of pansexuality.

This explanation may sound weird, but that's how I tried to explain the difference between bisexuality and pansexuality to myself once.

Originally Posted by Wanda

It's pretty tricky any way to define sexuality. It's like one's own genitals are referred to the one's s/he is in interested in. Like that "I'm a woman and I like men, so that makes me hetero." It would be a lot more easier, if everyone who are capable of falling in love with men could be called as...eh...mensexuals for lack of better word, no matter what sex they themselves are. And if it's purely sexual (like some who identify themselves as bisexual can't fall in love with people of same sex) it should be called as a manfetish.

Wise words have been spoken here.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Wanda

I think the term pansexuality was meant to replace the term bisexuality, because bi means two, and it's problematic for some people.

I'm intrigued by your explanations of the many definitions of sexuality. ^_^ Psychology major, right? The one thing that irks me is that your favorite character is Raph. Why does it bother me? Because it's so typical couldn't think of a gentler way to put it, sorry). While it's not necessarily a sexual attraction, I find girls have a tendency to prefer Raph as he is the bad boy ideal of the group. Like, if there were to be a 'bad boy' character who just happened to be a masculine-looking girl, you'd still find her interesting, but your sexuality might have you deny this just for the reason that it feels awkward. What I'd like to know is how you would define this state of being attracted to the person rather than their bits.

Originally Posted by syd

well whatever you think,you kno,i don't think that my original topic sux.=x

It doesn't sux. People just have a hard time taking it seriously.

[syd]

what?!0_o
im serious!
up to now i still believe that they are asexual race,i beleive that if they had any, they'd have a completely different way of love,romantic love,as we called it,why could we just talk more about turtles,i mean,humans are tedious.

[Sewer Bull]

Who needs any romantic love in the TMNT, anyway?

Taking this franchise too seriously (and including any "pseudo-profound" moments) is just going to kill it.

[syd]

oh keep being so abstract and im gonna be killed too...

[Katie]

Originally Posted by gobo

The one thing that irks me is that your favorite character is Raph. Why does it bother me? Because it's so typical couldn't think of a gentler way to put it, sorry). While it's not necessarily a sexual attraction, I find girls have a tendency to prefer Raph as he is the bad boy ideal of the group. Like, if there were to be a 'bad boy' character who just happened to be a masculine-looking girl, you'd still find her interesting, but your sexuality might have you deny this just for the reason that it feels awkward.

LOL. I dunno about the other girls, but I think maybe my liking Raphael AS A CHARACTER has alot to do with him being one of the (if not THE) most developed character in cannon works. He has alot of dimension. Its easier for our girl brains to latch on to characters who show some depth rather than others who generally have one dimension and personality, etc. through it all. I'm not attracted to him in any way shape or form....or any of the others for that matter.

As for the girl thing.....ew. no. "Bad boy" girls usually just piss me off in a movie or show or whatever.

as for the topic. They are a reflection of their creators. Whatever the mindset of the creator....that would be their orientation. Not saying that as a writer I could not create a homsexual character...or an asexual one, etc. but it would feel awkward to a reader because I have no reference point in my life to "flesh out" such a character. There would be alot of little nuances that I would not know / couldn't pick up on that would make the character seem not quite right (or the character would end up being a giant stereotype). Since I see no awkwardness of character in the turtles, I feel that they are all heterosexual males, as are their creators.

[syd]

deliver me.
since whenever we start discussing their sex orientaion,it isn't a good idea,coz it's children's show,thus they ain't about sex.and if you talk about homo issue in the present of the parents,they ain't gonna like it.
does this make sence?@x@

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Katie

I'm not attracted to him in any way shape or form....or any of the others for that matter.

Well, I wasn't talking about a romantic or sexual attraction. Your attraction to making friends isn't romantic or sexual (I should hope). But, I guess my question insulted some people as no one else wants to reply. Sorry. I have foot-in-mouth disease.

Originally Posted by syd

deliver me.
since whenever we start discussing their sex orientaion,it isn't a good idea,coz it's children's show,thus they ain't about sex.and if you talk about homo issue in the present of the parents,they ain't gonna like it.
does this make sence?@x@

Absolutely. That's why the homosexual couples were edited out of the North American version of Sailor Moon. Queen Beryl had no female generals.