To Anyone Who Likes Venus: Why? - Page 6

*ObiWanFan4life* · 04-03-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

If Venus was introduced in the original 'toon, she'd get less bashing. I still think she was the only tolerable character in that series. Saban's writers turned the guys into the three stooges + Shemp. Venus was just the poster-child of all that change happening at once.

Why did they think that was a good idea

*gobo* · 04-03-2013, 04:06 PM

Demystifying The Bermuda Triangle might be easier.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 04-03-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Demystifying The Bermuda Triangle might be easier.

What does that even mean

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 04-03-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtles2k12

That makes the original 4 not special anymore

For what, being a mutant Turtle? If so, Slash, Tokka, and that Terrapin monster from Mirage beat her to it.

Nameless · 04-03-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

For what, being a mutant Turtle? If so, Slash, Tokka, and that Terrapin monster from Mirage beat her to it.

Also Hans and Fitz, and pretty much every Turtle on Shell-Ri-La and the plant of the turtles, beat her to the giant talking turtle part as well (just not mutant).

*gobo* · 04-03-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtles2k12

What does that even mean

I mean that solving ancient mysteries is a more rewarding waste of time than attributing reason to obviously unreasonable decisions. Rage on if you want though.

*Wildcat* · 04-03-2013, 11:21 PM

I didnt read every reply just page 1.

Im currently watching Next Mutation on HUB. I DVR it every weekend. I never saw any back in the day. I wanna finish it for the sake of it and also to form my own opinion of it. Not just every internet fan saying its crap over and over.

So far I think its ok. I'll agree its the weakest turtle show but its not because of Venus. And its certainly not the horrific abomination so many fans say it is. Its dumb because overall the writing is generic and the turtles come off as silly theme park characters. Especially Mikey. They reduced him to a wise cracking, joke-crazy baffoon.

Venus was actually the best written character. Her only comedic aspect is when she misinterprets american culture. There is nothing wrong with a 5th, female turtle. Just should have given her a better origin. Thats where the hate comes from, her being an extra turtle that just happened to get separated and happened to go unnoticed.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 04-04-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

I didnt read every reply just page 1.

Im currently watching Next Mutation on HUB. I DVR it every weekend. I never saw any back in the day. I wanna finish it for the sake of it and also to form my own opinion of it. Not just every internet fan saying its crap over and over.

So far I think its ok. I'll agree its the weakest turtle show but its not because of Venus. And its certainly not the horrific abomination so many fans say it is. Its dumb because overall the writing is generic and the turtles come off as silly theme park characters. Especially Mikey. They reduced him to a wise cracking, joke-crazy baffoon.

Venus was actually the best written character. Her only comedic aspect is when she misinterprets american culture. There is nothing wrong with a 5th, female turtle. Just should have given her a better origin. Thats where the hate comes from, her being an extra turtle that just happened to get separated and happened to go unnoticed.

What origin would you give her

*The Boston Ninja Turtle* · 04-04-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtles2k12

What origin would you give her

dude whats it matter to you people can like Venus, and Next mutation

*ObiWanFan4life* · 04-04-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeroTurtle

dude whats it matter to you people can like Venus, and Next mutation

Didn't you read my reply on the last page

*Wildcat* · 04-05-2013, 12:11 AM

@ Turtles2k12, The origin Id give Venus would be something like the mutagen somehow came in contact with her through other means and the turtles obviously take her in as part of the group.

Maybe some mutagen travels through the sewer and comes in contact with a turtle out at sea. Or maybe there were already some experiments being done on animals at the time and they meet through battle all these years later. Hey thatd be an interesting origin for a live action Bebop and Rocksteady.

Don't hold any of this against me, Im just throwing out ideas. Anything would be more creative than "oh ya there was a 5th turtle that I totally forgot about and got separated".

Nameless · 04-05-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

@ Turtles2k12, The origin Id give Venus would be something like the mutagen somehow came in contact with her through other means and the turtles obviously take her in as part of the group.

Maybe some mutagen travels through the sewer and comes in contact with a turtle out at sea. Or maybe there were already some experiments being done on animals at the time and they meet through battle all these years later. Hey thatd be an interesting origin for a live action Bebop and Rocksteady.

Don't hold any of this against me, Im just throwing out ideas. Anything would be more creative than "oh ya there was a 5th turtle that I totally forgot about and got separated".

Actually that might help opinion a bit because then she wouldn't have a chance of being related to the turtles and the 4 can be brothers again.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 04-05-2013, 10:18 AM

Oh no it's a fine backstory. Hell of a lot better than what Saban came up with.

*miru* · 04-05-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtles2k12

What origin would you give her

Raph's turtle, Spike, is mutated. Or she could be April.

Avatar Yuffie · 04-05-2013, 10:32 PM

She was separated from the guys during mutation and they meeet up and became a family. It was done in IDW.

Falconhood · 04-05-2013, 11:16 PM

Because she's a GIRL!

*BabyTurtles* · 04-05-2013, 11:27 PM

At first I was indifferent toward her...(cause I never saw an episode)

but now I kinda don't like her......she kicked all their butts.......XD.....easily......idk..that doesn't sit well with me.

edit: watched more...

she can read minds!!! 0_0.....she's kinda mary sue-ish...

Falconhood · 04-06-2013, 12:32 AM

well, with 5 members, they can be Sentai, and have a megazord with 5 zords...too bad they never exploited that.

04-06-2013, 12:51 AM

I think venus was to much 'science can't explain everything, magic is the way' for my taste.

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 04-06-2013, 02:06 AM

To summarize my own thoughts regarding Venus, I have nothing against the concept. The execution was something else entirely.

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04-03-2013, 11:21 PM	#107
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,502	I didnt read every reply just page 1. Im currently watching Next Mutation on HUB. I DVR it every weekend. I never saw any back in the day. I wanna finish it for the sake of it and also to form my own opinion of it. Not just every internet fan saying its crap over and over. So far I think its ok. I'll agree its the weakest turtle show but its not because of Venus. And its certainly not the horrific abomination so many fans say it is. Its dumb because overall the writing is generic and the turtles come off as silly theme park characters. Especially Mikey. They reduced him to a wise cracking, joke-crazy baffoon. Venus was actually the best written character. Her only comedic aspect is when she misinterprets american culture. There is nothing wrong with a 5th, female turtle. Just should have given her a better origin. Thats where the hate comes from, her being an extra turtle that just happened to get separated and happened to go unnoticed. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

04-05-2013, 12:11 AM	#111
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,502	@ Turtles2k12, The origin Id give Venus would be something like the mutagen somehow came in contact with her through other means and the turtles obviously take her in as part of the group. Maybe some mutagen travels through the sewer and comes in contact with a turtle out at sea. Or maybe there were already some experiments being done on animals at the time and they meet through battle all these years later. Hey thatd be an interesting origin for a live action Bebop and Rocksteady. Don't hold any of this against me, Im just throwing out ideas. Anything would be more creative than "oh ya there was a 5th turtle that I totally forgot about and got separated". __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

04-05-2013, 10:32 PM	#115
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	She was separated from the guys during mutation and they meeet up and became a family. It was done in IDW. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

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Falconhood Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NC Posts: 694	Because she's a GIRL! __________________ Wheresoever the carcase is, there will the vultures be gathered together.

04-05-2013, 10:18 AM	#113
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	Oh no it's a fine backstory. Hell of a lot better than what Saban came up with.

04-05-2013, 11:27 PM	#117
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	At first I was indifferent toward her...(cause I never saw an episode) but now I kinda don't like her......she kicked all their butts.......XD.....easily......idk..that doesn't sit well with me. edit: watched more... she can read minds!!! 0_0.....she's kinda mary sue-ish... __________________ Last edited by BabyTurtles; 04-05-2013 at 11:32 PM.

04-06-2013, 12:32 AM	#118
Falconhood Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NC Posts: 694	well, with 5 members, they can be Sentai, and have a megazord with 5 zords...too bad they never exploited that. __________________ Wheresoever the carcase is, there will the vultures be gathered together.

04-06-2013, 12:51 AM	#119
shreddinghead Guest Posts: n/a	I think venus was to much 'science can't explain everything, magic is the way' for my taste.

04-06-2013, 02:06 AM	#120
Tuxedo Moroboshi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Battle Nexus Posts: 1,127	To summarize my own thoughts regarding Venus, I have nothing against the concept. The execution was something else entirely. __________________ Hey, be sure to check out my art!