TMNT II - thoughts on it? - Page 6

*Anarchistguy* · 08-29-2003, 09:01 PM

You guys probably don't care but did you see how FAT the Foot soldiers looked in the TMNT vs. Foot Soldiers at TGRI ?

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 08-29-2003, 09:05 PM

Yeah, they were pretty chunky for Runaway teens turned Ninja henchmen. I think they just dug up some cheap extras for the group scenes and used maybe two stunt-doubles for the action scenes.

*Dr. Doom* · 08-30-2003, 04:43 AM

Well that one that catches the canister and is all like "AAAH-HAAAA!" Is kinda large, but I think they did that on purpose.

*jeff the cheff* · 09-02-2003, 02:28 PM

I think a non tmnt fan can watch this movie..but if i was watching the new show with a non-fan...I would feel embarresed at some of the dumb things...i dont feel that way about this movie though.

*Jephael* · 09-02-2003, 05:01 PM

That's what was so great about the movies though. It didn't matter if you never heard about TMNT before, cause the films were set in their own little universe!

spazyk · 09-05-2003, 03:32 PM

I don't know about you but TMNT II was my fav out of all three TMNT I was to boring for me. TMNT III was just way to cheesy and boring. But I can watch TMNT II over and over and not get sick of it.... I really don't care about all the LITTLE things... the movie is fun to watch... OK now you guys can yell at me... because I like it and you don't

LEOTMNT · 01-19-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spazyk

I don't know about you but TMNT II was my fav out of all three TMNT I was to boring for me. TMNT III was just way to cheesy and boring. But I can watch TMNT II over and over and not get sick of it.... I really don't care about all the LITTLE things... the movie is fun to watch... OK now you guys can yell at me... because I like it and you don't

WELL.... Cool! i loved TMNTII as a kid because just that, its a fun movie to watch with the turtles!! that said now...yes, i definitely notice how poorly written it was at moments, whether due to restrains by the fact that it was "dumbed" down for a younger audience or whatever be it. The quality in the suits did steadily decline throughout the movies which was sad and the weapons became laughable accessories. the sound effects as mentioned was also unnecessary. but still a solid TMNT film!

so now TMNT I is has been my favorite for many years now but followed by TMNTII and uh...its a shame they didnt make any more. well the 07TMNT wasnt too bad. And turtles forever.

annnd i just realized that this thread has been dead since 03...

marcelangelo · 01-19-2012, 01:21 PM

hahahaha

Metropoliskid41 · 01-19-2012, 01:30 PM

I agree with most of what LEOTMNT said except for the suit decline. I believe that the suits in TMNT II were better for the most part than the suits in TMNT I except for Mikey seeming to be a little more vertically challenged. I thought the expressions and mouth movements were much smoother than the first movie. Its so hard to believe that it went from that to the crapshoot that is TMNT III. Man those turtles look awfully and their mouths are just flapping non stop, they say one word and their lips would flap 10 times.

TMNT II was probably my favorite growing up, I just loved the opening fight scene in the mall, and yeah I notice how dumbed down it seems today but I still find it very enjoyable to watch, but TMNT I is just awesome. Wish they could have carried more of the grittiness from movie I over to number II.

*Redeemer* · 01-19-2012, 01:47 PM

Yeah lol but now its alive and well again thanks 2 u

But yeah I pretty much feel the same way

Herald7 · 01-19-2012, 09:57 PM

To be honest I thought the suits/puppets were a little more creepy looking this time around, lol. I guess they were trying to look more realistic, but sometimes that's not the way to go, lol.

Hermano Dyvas · 01-20-2012, 10:51 AM

As a kid I loved this movie, it was definately my favorite back in the day. I remember seeing it at the movies with my dad. As an adult TMNT I is my favorite but I still like TMNT II a lot.

There are 3 things I found dissapointing as a kid I still find dissapointing now.

1. No use of weapons, at one moment Leo teases by pulling half of his swords out of his sheets but they go right back in shortly after. Dissapointing!

2. Tokka and Rahzar. Don't get me wrong, I like their characters but when I saw this movie the first time as a kid and after all this talk about mutagen I was pumped to see, who else, Bebop and Rocksteady on the big screen! So yeah, when it turned out to be 2 different mutants I was dissapointed !

Note to Tatsu: A rhino and a warthog are a lot more dangerous then a dog and a snapper turtle dude.
Shredder: "these were the most dangerous animals you could find?"
Tatsu: "*Noobish acknowledging grunt*"

3. Jordan Perry should've been Baxter Stockman. This issue is not remotely on the same level as the issue with Tokka and Rahzar but I'd lie if I say it never bothered me.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-26-2012, 06:54 AM

Definitely could have chosen more threatening animals to mutate. I always wonder what kinds of off-camera discussions super-villains have when their plans go awry...

SHREDDER: That's the best you could find? Seriously?

TATSU: What's wrong with them?

SHREDDER: Oh, I don't know, maybe I wasn't exactly planning on building a super-mutant out of a cuddly little puppy dog?

TATSU: Woah, okay, first of all, it's not a dog, it's a wolf...

SHREDDER: It's two friggin' weeks old! It's trying to climb into a slipper!

TATSU: Okay, LISTEN, a**hole, you call me at 3 in the morning, "Go find me some animals," every pet store in New York is CLOSED, do you understand that?! So YES, this was the BEST that I could find behind the dumpster at White Castle at 3 in the f*cking morning, OKAY?!

SHREDDER: Why didn't you break into the zoo?

TATSU: Do you listen to yourself? "Why didn't I break into the zoo?" Who the hell breaks into a ZOO?!

SHREDDER: ...Someone could.

TATSU: Like who?

SHREDDER: ......Crazy people...?

TATSU: That's right, crazy people. Crazy people would break into a zoo at 3am, just like crazy people would try and turn a wolf into a... what exactly did you say the plan was?

SHREDDER: I'm building an army of super-mutants to destroy those wretched Turtles!

TATSU: Okay, see, this is why stuff gets screwed up, we don't communicate. If you had TOLD me you wanted animals for some kind of mutant army, I could have done something else entirely.

SHREDDER: What did you THINK I wanted them for?!

TATSU: I thought you were lonely! I thought you wanted a pet! How was I supposed to just KNOW you were going to pump them full of steroids and teach them how to kickbox?

SHREDDER: How would me having a PET help me destroy the turtles?!

TATSU: I thought you wouldn't be so stressed out all the time, yeeeeeesh! Listen buddy, this isn't about me, this is about you. You're over-thinking these plans of yours. We can do better against those turtles. Y'know people actually use guns nowadays?

SHREDDER: I like the idea of fighting giant mutants with giant mutants. We're going with it.

TATSU: Yeah but if you would'a told me... y'know what, nevermind, this is getting us nowhere. How'd the other one turn out?

SHREDDER: The snapping turtle? Ehhhh... did it HAVE to be another turtle? That seems so lazy...

TATSU: Are we back to THIS sh*t again?!

SHREDDER: No, I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, I should have told you what the plan was... but how do we know they're not related?

TATSU: What on Earth are you talking about? How can a wolf and a snapping turtle...?

SHREDDER: NO you idiot, how do we know this one isn't related to the other turtles? Like, we go to unleash these two on them, he recognizes them, turns on us and we're all f*cked royal, y'know?

TATSU: I still say you're thinking too much. This plan f*cking sucks. Let's just shoot the friggin' turtles and get it over with already.

SHREDDER: Where is this coming from?

TATSU: Oh LOOK at you, you make me sick! You and all your theatrical nonsense, call yourself a ninja but you traipse around covered in steak knives for chrissakes... y'know anyone can hear you comiing from a block away with all that crap you wear? How is that stealthy?

SHREDDER: It looks f*cking badass! I had to buy 17 blenders and take metal shop just to put it together, don't you give me sh*t just because I look like a GOD and you walk around in your bathrobe all day, grunting like you're constipated.

TATSU: Y'know what? I hope those turtles kill you, or kill me, because I swear I am NEVER working with you again after this fiasco.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-26-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermano Dyvas

3. Jordan Perry should've been Baxter Stockman. This issue is not remotely on the same level as the issue with Tokka and Rahzar but I'd lie if I say it never bothered me.

If so, we would have a TMNT universe where Baxter Stockman is a good guy.

ryukenden · 01-26-2012, 04:31 PM

As a kid, I first thought Perry was Baxter Stockman.

TonySiegel · 01-26-2012, 05:20 PM

Illness:
- the tgri story
- the turtles were still holding it down just like the 1st movie
- hot april
- splinter looked awesome (he took a shower i guess)
- the new lair

Complaints:
- Baxter Stockman should've at least gotten a name drop in this film
- Beebop and Rocksteady would've been grand
- Tokka and Rahzar got defeated way to easily
- movie was a bit to slapstickish
- Shredder was defeated to easily
- why the need for Vanilla Ice?

*Redeemer* · 01-26-2012, 08:05 PM

Sucks balls

lol weve been over this so many times I think everyone covered every thing

*pannoni1* · 01-26-2012, 08:25 PM

I actually watched this movie the most as a kid since I was raised on the cartoon (I was only 5 when the first movie came out and the cartoon was still where it was at), and I agree with a lot of what others have posted already. Even back then I could remember how distracting the Ninja Rap scene was, it took attention away from the battle and drew toward an artist who at the time had his brief career fall by the wayside. And I'm disappointed in the use of Shredder. I remember confusing the scientist for Baxter given how similar he was in style. I even thought that at the time the movie had continuity with the cartoon, despite April working for Channel 3, thinking that they don't really watch the cartoon.

Herald7 · 01-26-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

despite April working for Channel 3

I still remember seeing the 1st movie in the theater and whispering to my Dad, "But she works for Channel 6!" Dad of course said "Shhh!" and I was left confused, Lol

Hermano Dyvas · 01-28-2012, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermano Dyvas

3. Jordan Perry should've been Baxter Stockman. This issue is not remotely on the same level as the issue with Tokka and Rahzar but I'd lie if I say it never bothered me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982

If so, we would have a TMNT universe where Baxter Stockman is a good guy.

Would that be so bad?

08-29-2003, 09:01 PM	#101
Anarchistguy Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada (This country is too peaceful, Something's up...) Posts: 2,137	You guys probably don't care but did you see how FAT the Foot soldiers looked in the TMNT vs. Foot Soldiers at TGRI ? __________________ M.D.K. Maim! Destroy! Kill!!! "When my time comes, I wanna be buried face down, so those who don't like me can kiss my ass!"

08-29-2003, 09:05 PM	#102
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Yeah, they were pretty chunky for Runaway teens turned Ninja henchmen. I think they just dug up some cheap extras for the group scenes and used maybe two stunt-doubles for the action scenes. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

08-30-2003, 04:43 AM	#103
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Well that one that catches the canister and is all like "AAAH-HAAAA!" Is kinda large, but I think they did that on purpose. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

09-02-2003, 05:01 PM	#105
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	That's what was so great about the movies though. It didn't matter if you never heard about TMNT before, cause the films were set in their own little universe! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

09-05-2003, 03:32 PM	#106
spazyk Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 36	I don't know about you but TMNT II was my fav out of all three TMNT I was to boring for me. TMNT III was just way to cheesy and boring. But I can watch TMNT II over and over and not get sick of it.... I really don't care about all the LITTLE things... the movie is fun to watch... OK now you guys can yell at me... because I like it and you don't __________________ http://tmnt.my-reality.net

09-02-2003, 02:28 PM	#104
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I think a non tmnt fan can watch this movie..but if i was watching the new show with a non-fan...I would feel embarresed at some of the dumb things...i dont feel that way about this movie though.

01-19-2012, 01:21 PM	#108
marcelangelo Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,471	hahahaha

01-19-2012, 01:30 PM	#109
Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	I agree with most of what LEOTMNT said except for the suit decline. I believe that the suits in TMNT II were better for the most part than the suits in TMNT I except for Mikey seeming to be a little more vertically challenged. I thought the expressions and mouth movements were much smoother than the first movie. Its so hard to believe that it went from that to the crapshoot that is TMNT III. Man those turtles look awfully and their mouths are just flapping non stop, they say one word and their lips would flap 10 times. TMNT II was probably my favorite growing up, I just loved the opening fight scene in the mall, and yeah I notice how dumbed down it seems today but I still find it very enjoyable to watch, but TMNT I is just awesome. Wish they could have carried more of the grittiness from movie I over to number II. __________________ -------------------

01-19-2012, 01:47 PM	#110
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Yeah lol but now its alive and well again thanks 2 u But yeah I pretty much feel the same way __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

01-19-2012, 09:57 PM	#111
Herald7 Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 286	To be honest I thought the suits/puppets were a little more creepy looking this time around, lol. I guess they were trying to look more realistic, but sometimes that's not the way to go, lol. __________________ "Leave it to Donatello to have a homing device that fits a snake!" Last edited by Herald7; 01-21-2012 at 10:57 AM.

01-20-2012, 10:51 AM	#112
Hermano Dyvas Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 355	As a kid I loved this movie, it was definately my favorite back in the day. I remember seeing it at the movies with my dad. As an adult TMNT I is my favorite but I still like TMNT II a lot. There are 3 things I found dissapointing as a kid I still find dissapointing now. 1. No use of weapons, at one moment Leo teases by pulling half of his swords out of his sheets but they go right back in shortly after. Dissapointing! 2. Tokka and Rahzar. Don't get me wrong, I like their characters but when I saw this movie the first time as a kid and after all this talk about mutagen I was pumped to see, who else, Bebop and Rocksteady on the big screen! So yeah, when it turned out to be 2 different mutants I was dissapointed ! Note to Tatsu: A rhino and a warthog are a lot more dangerous then a dog and a snapper turtle dude. Shredder: "these were the most dangerous animals you could find?" Tatsu: "Noobish acknowledging grunt" 3. Jordan Perry should've been Baxter Stockman. This issue is not remotely on the same level as the issue with Tokka and Rahzar but I'd lie if I say it never bothered me.

01-26-2012, 06:54 AM	#113
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Definitely could have chosen more threatening animals to mutate. I always wonder what kinds of off-camera discussions super-villains have when their plans go awry... SHREDDER: That's the best you could find? Seriously? TATSU: What's wrong with them? SHREDDER: Oh, I don't know, maybe I wasn't exactly planning on building a super-mutant out of a cuddly little puppy dog? TATSU: Woah, okay, first of all, it's not a dog, it's a wolf... SHREDDER: It's two friggin' weeks old! It's trying to climb into a slipper! TATSU: Okay, LISTEN, a*hole, you call me at 3 in the morning, "Go find me some animals," every pet store in New York is CLOSED, do you understand that?! So YES, this was the BEST that I could find behind the dumpster at White Castle at 3 in the fcking morning, OKAY?! SHREDDER: Why didn't you break into the zoo? TATSU: Do you listen to yourself? "Why didn't I break into the zoo?" Who the hell breaks into a ZOO?! SHREDDER: ...Someone could. TATSU: Like who? SHREDDER: ......Crazy people...? TATSU: That's right, crazy people. Crazy people would break into a zoo at 3am, just like crazy people would try and turn a wolf into a... what exactly did you say the plan was? SHREDDER: I'm building an army of super-mutants to destroy those wretched Turtles! TATSU: Okay, see, this is why stuff gets screwed up, we don't communicate. If you had TOLD me you wanted animals for some kind of mutant army, I could have done something else entirely. SHREDDER: What did you THINK I wanted them for?! TATSU: I thought you were lonely! I thought you wanted a pet! How was I supposed to just KNOW you were going to pump them full of steroids and teach them how to kickbox? SHREDDER: How would me having a PET help me destroy the turtles?! TATSU: I thought you wouldn't be so stressed out all the time, yeeeeeesh! Listen buddy, this isn't about me, this is about you. You're over-thinking these plans of yours. We can do better against those turtles. Y'know people actually use guns nowadays? SHREDDER: I like the idea of fighting giant mutants with giant mutants. We're going with it. TATSU: Yeah but if you would'a told me... y'know what, nevermind, this is getting us nowhere. How'd the other one turn out? SHREDDER: The snapping turtle? Ehhhh... did it HAVE to be another turtle? That seems so lazy... TATSU: Are we back to THIS sht again?! SHREDDER: No, I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, I should have told you what the plan was... but how do we know they're not related? TATSU: What on Earth are you talking about? How can a wolf and a snapping turtle...? SHREDDER: NO you idiot, how do we know this one isn't related to the other turtles? Like, we go to unleash these two on them, he recognizes them, turns on us and we're all fcked royal, y'know? TATSU: I still say you're thinking too much. This plan fcking sucks. Let's just shoot the friggin' turtles and get it over with already. SHREDDER: Where is this coming from? TATSU: Oh LOOK at you, you make me sick! You and all your theatrical nonsense, call yourself a ninja but you traipse around covered in steak knives for chrissakes... y'know anyone can hear you comiing from a block away with all that crap you wear? How is that stealthy? SHREDDER: It looks fcking badass! I had to buy 17 blenders and take metal shop just to put it together, don't you give me sh*t just because I look like a GOD and you walk around in your bathrobe all day, grunting like you're constipated. TATSU: Y'know what? I hope those turtles kill you, or kill me, because I swear I am NEVER working with you again after this fiasco.

01-26-2012, 04:31 PM	#115
ryukenden Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 383	As a kid, I first thought Perry was Baxter Stockman.

01-26-2012, 05:20 PM	#116
TonySiegel Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Worldwide Posts: 638	Illness: - the tgri story - the turtles were still holding it down just like the 1st movie - hot april - splinter looked awesome (he took a shower i guess) - the new lair Complaints: - Baxter Stockman should've at least gotten a name drop in this film - Beebop and Rocksteady would've been grand - Tokka and Rahzar got defeated way to easily - movie was a bit to slapstickish - Shredder was defeated to easily - why the need for Vanilla Ice? __________________ "...Color or creed, is no need for a man to bleed/ I believe, we all breathe the same seed/ Unless it's diluted, for somethin to intrude it..." - Kool G. Rap

01-26-2012, 08:05 PM	#117
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Sucks balls lol weve been over this so many times I think everyone covered every thing __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

01-26-2012, 08:25 PM	#118
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I actually watched this movie the most as a kid since I was raised on the cartoon (I was only 5 when the first movie came out and the cartoon was still where it was at), and I agree with a lot of what others have posted already. Even back then I could remember how distracting the Ninja Rap scene was, it took attention away from the battle and drew toward an artist who at the time had his brief career fall by the wayside. And I'm disappointed in the use of Shredder. I remember confusing the scientist for Baxter given how similar he was in style. I even thought that at the time the movie had continuity with the cartoon, despite April working for Channel 3, thinking that they don't really watch the cartoon. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power! Last edited by pannoni1; 01-26-2012 at 08:41 PM.