TMNT and Splinter vs. Batman

[MC]

If you think about it, either character can do anything the writers want them to do. Whatever situation Batman is in, he always comes out tops, because the writers write it that way. The T.M.N.T. always come out on top too, because that's what the writers write!

This is fiction. Anything can, and does, happen. Two seven year old kids could beat Batman, because,"Oh! Batman was talking to Commissioner Gordon, a seven year old kid ran up and threw mud in his eye, and another seven year old kid shot him in the back while he was wiping off the mud." See what I mean?

All superheroes are pretty much pitted against "unbeatable" odds, and something always comes along to help them win.

By the way, do people judge their favourite characters over who would win in a fight? I like Superboy more than Superman, even though I know Superman would easily win in a fight. Doesn't bother me though, does it bother others?

[JDavis]

Originally Posted by MC

By the way, do people judge their favourite characters over who would win in a fight? I like Superboy more than Superman, even though I know Superman would easily win in a fight. Doesn't bother me though, does it bother others?

Doesn't bother me. I prefer the TMNT to Batman, but agree that most versions of Batman would come out victorious against versions of the TMNT.

Superfriends Batman, I'd say, would be the most likely to loose to the Turtles. The comics Batman(s), particularly of the darker-storylined comics would be most likely to win.

Out of the Turtles... the Old Toon Turtles or the Image Turtles would be the worst off. I mean, the Old Toon Turtles, at least up until the end, didn't really face much in the way of heavy-duty action. And in the Image comics the Turtles are so prone to loosing body parts and having other serious injuries (such as would require becoming a cyborg) that it's not funny. The Mirage Turtles would put up the best fight.

[Leonardo_the_sword_master]

Originally Posted by MC

If you think about it, either character can do anything the writers want them to do. Whatever situation Batman is in, he always comes out tops, because the writers write it that way. The T.M.N.T. always come out on top too, because that's what the writers write!

This is fiction. Anything can, and does, happen. Two seven year old kids could beat Batman, because,"Oh! Batman was talking to Commissioner Gordon, a seven year old kid ran up and threw mud in his eye, and another seven year old kid shot him in the back while he was wiping off the mud." See what I mean?

All superheroes are pretty much pitted against "unbeatable" odds, and something always comes along to help them win.

By the way, do people judge their favourite characters over who would win in a fight? I like Superboy more than Superman, even though I know Superman would easily win in a fight. Doesn't bother me though, does it bother others?

you ahve really good points..
but i say know that Batman and the TMNT would not fight, cause splinter would not allow it. splinter would probely make friends with Batman.

[Raven]

easy, batman would win.

[JDavis]

Originally Posted by Leonardo_the_sword_master

but i say know that Batman and the TMNT would not fight, cause splinter would not allow it. splinter would probely make friends with Batman.

That... is actually a valid point. o_O

The main reason the TMNT and Batman would fight would be some sort of misunderstanding. Splinter would not go into a fight where it could be avoided, and would not fight someone he didn't know was an enemy. Assuming Batman would listen to Splinter, which at least some versions of him would, the battle would likely stop there...

[Leonardo_the_sword_master]

Originally Posted by JDavis

That... is actually a valid point. o_O

The main reason the TMNT and Batman would fight would be some sort of misunderstanding. Splinter would not go into a fight where it could be avoided, and would not fight someone he didn't know was an enemy. Assuming Batman would listen to Splinter, which at least some versions of him would, the battle would likely stop there...

correct. see guys i jsut ahve to think and there ya go i have something that can be looked into.

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by MC

If you think about it, either character can do anything the writers want them to do. Whatever situation Batman is in, he always comes out tops, because the writers write it that way. The T.M.N.T. always come out on top too, because that's what the writers write!

This is fiction. Anything can, and does, happen. Two seven year old kids could beat Batman, because,"Oh! Batman was talking to Commissioner Gordon, a seven year old kid ran up and threw mud in his eye, and another seven year old kid shot him in the back while he was wiping off the mud." See what I mean?

All superheroes are pretty much pitted against "unbeatable" odds, and something always comes along to help them win.

By the way, do people judge their favourite characters over who would win in a fight? I like Superboy more than Superman, even though I know Superman would easily win in a fight. Doesn't bother me though, does it bother others?

I love the TMNT and don't really care for Batman, but I;ve read enough comics, seen enough of the show, and seen the movies to know that Batman would kick the TMNT's asses.

[NeoBix]

Well, I just got back from the movie "HERO"...

And, uhh... Jet Li's character would destroy Batman and TMNT combined... lol

GREAT MOVIE. I can't recommend it enough.

But anyway... back to the topic...

Yeah... sure, Batman's comics are darker and stuff, but... just cuz they're darker, it doesn't mean he's stronger. Besides, if you put the TMNT in one of Batman's dark comics, they would be darker too, and thus, according to your theory of darker = stronger, they would be stronger too, because they are darker, and darker is strong and strong is dark and light is weak and peanut butter goes good with jelly and I left something burning in the microwave and...

oh... uhh.. sorry about that guys, heh heh heh...

got a little carried away there.

BUH BYE!

TURTLES WOULD WIN!

[KROW]

Okay now I have no idea what that was all about. Does anybody else?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by NeoBix

got a little carried away there.

BUH BYE!

TURTLES WOULD WIN!

Shut up troll, you're just doing nothing but spamming now...

[NeoBix]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Shut up troll, you're just doing nothing but spamming now...

Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. LOL

Who peed in your Cheerios, buddy?

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by NeoBix

Well, I just got back from the movie "HERO"...

And, uhh... Jet Li's character would destroy Batman and TMNT combined... lol

GREAT MOVIE. I can't recommend it enough.

But anyway... back to the topic...

Yeah... sure, Batman's comics are darker and stuff, but... just cuz they're darker, it doesn't mean he's stronger. Besides, if you put the TMNT in one of Batman's dark comics, they would be darker too, and thus, according to your theory of darker = stronger, they would be stronger too, because they are darker, and darker is strong and strong is dark and light is weak and peanut butter goes good with jelly and I left something burning in the microwave and...

oh... uhh.. sorry about that guys, heh heh heh...

got a little carried away there.

BUH BYE!

TURTLES WOULD WIN!

Yes, Hero is a good movie...I can't wait to see it on the big screen.

[Leonardo_the_sword_master]

Hero... ooooo i want to see that movie it looks AWESOME.

[NeoBix]

Leonardo the Sword Master... you are gonna love it bro.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by NeoBix

Yeah... sure, Batman's comics are darker and stuff, but... just cuz they're darker, it doesn't mean he's stronger. Besides, if you put the TMNT in one of Batman's dark comics, they would be darker too, and thus, according to your theory of darker = stronger, they would be stronger too, because they are darker, and darker is strong and strong is dark and light is weak and peanut butter goes good with jelly and I left something burning in the microwave and...

what the hell are you talking about, darker equals stronger?
and just becuase you put the turtles in a "dark" batman comic does not mean they would aslo have to be dark...

[KROW]

That's true. The old Mirage series is a bit dark. The Image series is even darker.

[Duke]

Wow, I can't believe some of the people here. No one loves the Turtles more than me. They've been my favorite comic/movie/television heros as long as i can remember but give me a break, Batman would own them all even the old rat.

For every punch/kick the turtles could throw at Batman, he could use twenty plus blocks. The man is trained in more martial arts than leo could dream of studying.

And this is a turtles websit so if you don't think the turtles would win you should not be here is not a valid argument.

[tmntpower2003]

BATMAN would own ALL of the turtles. He knows tons of martial arts and fighting techniques, has bad ass gadgetry and is smarter than any of them. I mean he can take out the entire league of assasin all by himself. And for the record, Ras Al Ghul's LOA are better ninja than the turtles!! The boys in green and especially the rat don't stand a chance!! They would easily get owned.

[heretic888]

Against the better part of my judgment, I thought I'd add something here...

Once again, things like this always come down to situational modifiers. Where does the "fight" take place?? What weapons do the combatants have?? Do the combatants have foreknowledge of one another?? What is the criterion for "winning" here in the first place??

That being said, I will disagree with the general grain of the thread and give this to the TMNT (assuming we are talking Mirage TMNT here, I don't have much faith in the others). I too have read Batman comics, seen Batman movies, and watched the various Batman series (from Adam West's Batman to the new Justice League Unlimited show) --- and nothing at all seems to indicate to me that Batman possesses anywhere close the martial arts expertise the TMNT have.

Some of the arguments given were that Batman has learned more martial arts styles than the TMNT --- or has more "martial art tricks". Whoopdy-doo. Anyone with ANY experience in martial arts would chuckle at such arguments. The very greatest martial artists in the world are those that have trained for decades in a small number (perhaps even one) art. Not those that have dabbled in a dozen different styles.

My money's on the TMNT (mirage-ish). Not to mention, they're far more willing to kill Bats than Bats would be to kill them....

A more reasonable comparison would be Batman against ONE of the TMNT. Against all four, as well as Splinter, he wouldn't stand a chance.

[tmntpower2003]

Originally Posted by heretic888

Against the better part of my judgment, I thought I'd add something here...

Once again, things like this always come down to situational modifiers. Where does the "fight" take place?? What weapons do the combatants have?? Do the combatants have foreknowledge of one another?? What is the criterion for "winning" here in the first place??

That being said, I will disagree with the general grain of the thread and give this to the TMNT (assuming we are talking Mirage TMNT here, I don't have much faith in the others). I too have read Batman comics, seen Batman movies, and watched the various Batman series (from Adam West's Batman to the new Justice League Unlimited show) --- and nothing at all seems to indicate to me that Batman possesses anywhere close the martial arts expertise the TMNT have.

Some of the arguments given were that Batman has learned more martial arts styles than the TMNT --- or has more "martial art tricks". Whoopdy-doo. Anyone with ANY experience in martial arts would chuckle at such arguments. The very greatest martial artists in the world are those that have trained for decades in a small number (perhaps even one) art. Not those that have dabbled in a dozen different styles.

My money's on the TMNT (mirage-ish). Not to mention, they're far more willing to kill Bats than Bats would be to kill them....

A more reasonable comparison would be Batman against ONE of the TMNT. Against all four, as well as Splinter, he wouldn't stand a chance.

Dude, You Can't be serious, right? I mean I love the turles like all of you, but the TMNT and the rat would get owned beyond belief no matter where it is or what situation. For christ sakes, Batman took down Superman on multiple occassions and he is the Jesus or God like figure in comics. And of course we aren't talking about Adam West Batman, just like we're not talking about the corny tmnt from the 80's cartoon. We are talking original incarnations of both from the comics. The comics incarnations of Bruce studied hard in every single martial art and swordsmanship there is to know. He was taught by Ras Al Ghul who is an immortal due to the Lazurus Pit and he would have alot more to teach Batman than the Rat could the turtles. And there is no chance in hell the tmnt with splinter could beat Batman, NO WAY IN HELL!! Batman is a better martial artist than all of them, he can out think them, he has better weaponery. This case should be closed, and it is stupid the topic even came up, these guys wouldn't stand a chance. I suggest you pick up some real Batman comics, or wait for Batman Begins to see how much of a martial artist Bruce Wayne is.... just wait heretic and all of you who say the tmnt would win it saddens me to think fellow tmnt fans, whom I would believe to be smarter than this, actually think the turtles and the old rat could stand a chance?