Season 4 Discussion Thread

[TMNTInsighter]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

I agree he was possibly lying or omitting that he was forced to create this weapon. After all for a pacifist, he is rather lethal as we have seen him blast at least two Triceraton's to piles of ash over the course of this season without any sort of backlash.

...

And in AE he did show up out of nowhere, collect the Turtles and Co for vague reasons and tells them to go with him to get the pieces of the BHG with the hope that in doing so they would be able to prevent events from AE from taking place. So if he had revealed that he was the inventor of the weapon that destroyed their planet...they would never trust him.

...As of right now...it still remains to be seen if Kurtzman is an Utrom, but he does know quite a bit about the Kraang for a person who has been studying them for over a year and I'm not the only person who thinks there isn't something quite human about him. It may turn out that he is 'King' in the utrom counsel.

You obviously don't know the Fugitoid's reputation throughout the franchise. Oh, and to answer your question, Fugitoid didn't show up out of nowhere, Bishop sent out a distress call for him.

While I'll be on hold about your theory about Kurtzman being an Utrom (although it's VERY unlikely), him being "King" of the Utrom Council is very much a stretch!

[Powder]

I think it's a plausible theory.

[neatoman]

If I had to guess who "King" is, I'd say this guy.

Spoiler:

[Cartoon Fanboy]

Originally Posted by neatoman

If I had to guess who "King" is, I'd say this guy.

Spoiler:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20121022135619

I was also thinking the same thing. I mean, we need to see Ch'rell at some point in this series.

[CyberCubed]

I seriously doubt Ch'rell will ever appear in Nick. We already have Kraang subprime as the main "Kraang" and then there's Kraang Prime.

Did they say if Fred Wolf Krang was part of their set?

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I seriously doubt Ch'rell will ever appear in Nick. We already have Kraang subprime as the main "Kraang" and then there's Kraang Prime.

Did they say if Fred Wolf Krang was part of their set?

They said that Fred Wolf Kraang was Subprimes cousin, so in a way yes. But since he's a guest character he's not really part of the group itself.

Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter

You obviously don't know the Fugitoid's reputation throughout the franchise. Oh, and to answer your question, Fugitoid didn't show up out of nowhere, Bishop sent out a distress call for him.

While I'll be on hold about your theory about Kurtzman being an Utrom (although it's VERY unlikely), him being "King" of the Utrom Council is very much a stretch!

On the contrary, I do know his reputation throughout the franchise. I know in the original Comic and 2k3 series, he created a device called the Teleportal. Which could teleport things and people anywhere in the universe. He wanted it to be used to promote peace, but others wanted to use the device for war. Such as teleporting bombs into space ships, or troops into an enemy stronghold.

His body is destroyed when he is trying to help his robot assistant SAL but his mind merges with SAL's making him into an android. Since Androids have no rights on D'hoonib he was seen as a Fugative Android hence the name Fugatoid.

In the IDW he had been a neutrino scientist who had been working for Krang for what was believed to be the good of Utrom kind. However when he realizes his creations were beinging uses as weapons for Krangs Army he was too far into it.

In the nick version, Fugatoid appears out of nowhere and it's only after the fact that he explained that Bishop contacted him.

I would imagine the nick version would be similar to the IDW. The Kraang appear to Honeycutt and tell him they want a device built that could be used to end the war they have with the Triceratons. This device is the Heart of Darkness. Honeycutt at first believes it's meant to peacfully end the war, but instead it destroys the Triceraton empire with only fraction that was able to escape.

His friends the utroms capture the Heart of Darkness. They may have tried to destroy it, but don't have any success as they have said that it can't be destroyed. So they hide it in places throughout the universe where it would be believed that no one would ever find them ever again.

The Triceraton's in the mean time also arrive at D'hoonib to force Honeycutt to recreate the heart of darkness for them. Honeycutt refuses to do so because he knows what they would do with it. When he refuses he is mortally wounded, so SAL takes Honeycutt's brain and encases it in it's body.

Also in the arena of carnage there is a moment where Zanraman tells the Fugitoid to build the Heart of Darkness for him or watch the Turtles die a horrible death. (I.E. I already have one piece...building the rest would be so much faster then finding the remaining pieces.) which was also adapted from the mirage comic.

[shredder orokusaki]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I seriously doubt Ch'rell will ever appear in Nick. We already have Kraang subprime as the main "Kraang" and then there's Kraang Prime.

Did they say if Fred Wolf Krang was part of their set?

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Wr also have Krang in IDW but we have Ch'rell too.

[snake]

I love Ch'rell. It's such a fun idea if done right.

[neatoman]

I know Ch'rell seems unlikely (albeit less so after IDW brought him back).

The reason I went with him is that I can't really think of any other notable Utrom to put nor any characters that could be an Utrom in disguise. I mean seriously, who else could it be? Mortu? Obligado? I can't think of many notable Utrom characters.

[Cartoon Fanboy]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

They said that Fred Wolf Kraang was Subprimes cousin, so in a way yes. But since he's a guest character he's not really part of the group itself.




On the contrary, I do know his reputation throughout the franchise. I know in the original Comic and 2k3 series, he created a device called the Teleportal. Which could teleport things and people anywhere in the universe. He wanted it to be used to promote peace, but others wanted to use the device for war. Such as teleporting bombs into space ships, or troops into an enemy stronghold.

His body is destroyed when he is trying to help his robot assistant SAL but his mind merges with SAL's making him into an android. Since Androids have no rights on D'hoonib he was seen as a Fugative Android hence the name Fugatoid.

In the IDW he had been a neutrino scientist who had been working for Krang for what was believed to be the good of Utrom kind. However when he realizes his creations were beinging uses as weapons for Krangs Army he was too far into it.

In the nick version, Fugatoid appears out of nowhere and it's only after the fact that he explained that Bishop contacted him.

I would imagine the nick version would be similar to the IDW. The Kraang appear to Honeycutt and tell him they want a device built that could be used to end the war they have with the Triceratons. This device is the Heart of Darkness. Honeycutt at first believes it's meant to peacfully end the war, but instead it destroys the Triceraton empire with only fraction that was able to escape.

His friends the utroms capture the Heart of Darkness. They may have tried to destroy it, but don't have any success as they have said that it can't be destroyed. So they hide it in places throughout the universe where it would be believed that no one would ever find them ever again.

The Triceraton's in the mean time also arrive at D'hoonib to force Honeycutt to recreate the heart of darkness for them. Honeycutt refuses to do so because he knows what they would do with it. When he refuses he is mortally wounded, so SAL takes Honeycutt's brain and encases it in it's body.

Also in the arena of carnage there is a moment where Zanraman tells the Fugitoid to build the Heart of Darkness for him or watch the Turtles die a horrible death. (I.E. I already have one piece...building the rest would be so much faster then finding the remaining pieces.) which was also adapted from the mirage comic.

Your theory does make sense, but I have been thinking that you guys are thinking that the secret from is past is something to do with the Heart of Darkness. I mean, is the most obvious thing to think about, that his dark secret was that he created the Heart of Darkness.

But maybe that's not what it is. Maybe it has something to do with him doing something in the Ulixes. Is possible that he might of done something like messing up something in the Turtles' past.

And speaking of the past, we haven't seen Zog yet in any of these episodes.

[TMNTInsighter]

Originally Posted by Cartoon Fanboy

...Is possible that he might of done something like messing up something in the Turtles' past.

And speaking of the past, we haven't seen Zog yet in any of these episodes.

This is exactly what I'm thinking.

[thundermaster612]

Originally Posted by Cartoon Fanboy

Your theory does make sense, but I have been thinking that you guys are thinking that the secret from is past is something to do with the Heart of Darkness. I mean, is the most obvious thing to think about, that his dark secret was that he created the Heart of Darkness.

But maybe that's not what it is. Maybe it has something to do with him doing something in the Ulixes. Is possible that he might of done something like messing up something in the Turtles' past.

And speaking of the past, we haven't seen Zog yet in any of these episodes.

Well their 6 months in the past right? didn't Zog say he crashed on earth 6 months ago when he debuted? Idk either way he could be on earth right now.

[Cartoon Fanboy]

Originally Posted by thundermaster612

Well their 6 months in the past right? didn't Zog say he crashed on earth 6 months ago when he debuted? Idk either way he could be on earth right now.

Did he say 6 months? I remembered hearing 3 months. I don't know.

[Vicky82]

New Gifs, I'll put under spoilers

Spoiler:

WTF!!!!!!! is Donnie having a allergic reaction to something.

[Redworld96]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

New Gifs, I'll put under spoilers

Spoiler:

https://45.media.tumblr.com/9410edbe...vplo10_540.gif

https://49.media.tumblr.com/250de9a1...nvplo1_400.gif

https://49.media.tumblr.com/7c746766...nvplo2_400.gif

https://45.media.tumblr.com/f9260210...nvplo6_540.gif

https://45.media.tumblr.com/7b1acff9...nvplo3_400.gif

https://45.media.tumblr.com/9a121747...nvplo7_400.gif

https://49.media.tumblr.com/9f5b1a1c...nvplo9_500.gif

https://45.media.tumblr.com/087077bf...nvplo4_400.gif

WTF!!!!!!! is Donnie having a allergic reaction to something.

https://49.media.tumblr.com/1b2a1fee...nvplo5_540.gif

And I thought Donnie could not be uglier than in Race with the Demon LOL

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Redworld96

https://33.media.tumblr.com/d27cda8e...4of6o1_400.gif

And I thought Donnie could not be uglier than in Race with the Demon LOL

I assume he gets stung by Dreggs bugs and he get an allergic reaction to it or

Spoiler:

He gets an allergic reaction from April kissing his cheek.

[Redworld96]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I assume he gets stung by Dreggs bugs and he get an allergic reaction to it.

I wonder how they are going to create or find the cure Or maybe it's something temporal

[matteso586]

If Dregg doesn't get permanently defeated in The Evil of Dregg, I think he's going to team up with the Triceratons.

[Penst0ck]

God this show just REALLY hates Donatello's face.

[picassotheninjaturtle]

But it loves April's butt.