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Old 08-13-2014, 02:16 AM   #161
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This thread's become so farcical, I wouldn't be surprised if Clayton Bigsby showed up.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:23 AM   #162
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:26 AM   #163
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We do her name is Angel.
And what's wrong with Angel? Is there any reason why we can't bring her into the Nick series or the movie universe? Wouldn't that add racially diversity?
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:28 AM   #164
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And what's wrong with Angel? Is there any reason why we can't bring her into the Nick series or the movie universe? Wouldn't that add racially diversity?
Sorry worded that wrong I mean't use her. I like her and she needs more spotlight. She has a huge cult following on tumblr. And has recdntly shown up in IDW.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:41 AM   #165
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Casey isn't evil so making him black wouldn't make him an "evil black person" unless you think being black makes you evil. I never said racial diversity was propaganda a said pushing a certain view point is propaganda. You think the only way to add racial diversity is to change a characters race. Personally I think that is a creatively bankrupt and lazy way to add racial diversity. What's wrong with creating a new character or using an existing one? I would rather have a black character that has his own unique backstory and history, than a pattern swaped version of an existing character.
Wow. At this point I'm reasonably SURE you have to be being dense on purpose.

YOU think a character being black is bad. You outright SAID it when you said you'd rather them use a different character than make Casey black, as if it was SO AWFUL to make a white guy black, which, by the way, it isn't. If they created a new character that took Casey's place but wasn't white, people would just call the new character a poor man's Casey. Just look at Nick Fury. Making him black didn't take away from his appeal at all. Nick Fury's ****ing awesome.

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Also I just wanted to say that Angel is ****ing awesome.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:54 AM   #166
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I've always assumed Casey Jones was really just Kevin Eastman in a Jason mask.
Kevin likes the spotlight, and I think it was his way of becoming part of the book.
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:23 AM   #167
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:28 AM   #168
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What makes you think it's going to stop with just one film?
How many actors drop all other projects due to being in a big franchise? The Star Wars movies aren't coming out back to back. There will be plenty of time in between filming for the guy to do other projects.
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:56 AM   #169
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i feel like a black Casey would pretty much be Shaft so if you're going that route use Shaft ! or Carter
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:51 AM   #170
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And what's wrong with Angel? Is there any reason why we can't bring her into the Nick series or the movie universe? Wouldn't that add racially diversity?
Yes, but it would also add am unwanted bit of female diversity to the Nick show. Haven't you heard? There's already a good girl and bad girl. We're full up on girls.

Do sayeth the person that apparently makes all of Platinum Dune's storytelling and casting decisions. Woo promotion!
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:02 AM   #171
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Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate comics... And modeled after Samuel L Jackson... So he doesn't really count. Movie Nick is black cause comics Nick is black.

I agree with whoever wants Casey to be the same. We don't need some black dude pretending to be Casey Jones. We also don't need 'random black dude shoved in there for the sake of putting a black dude in there'.

And also wtf with all this 'put black people into everything' jazz? I doubt they give two ***** wether or not Casey, Electro or Johnny Storm were white or black. If storm was casted by a white girl... There's be hell to pay... And the white comic book fans would be just as pissed as the black fans.

I just don't understand this sudden rash of race changing. I'm Mecican and I don't give a **** if the Avengers have a Mexican member and I won't raise a petition for April to be Latina. Can't someone just be a fan if a comic and cartoon and expect the big epic movie version to be similar enough?

Avengers and their related movies did it just fine. Why can't anyone else seem to get it?
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:48 AM   #172
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Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate comics... And modeled after Samuel L Jackson... So he doesn't really count. Movie Nick is black cause comics Nick is black.
He does count, because he's still black.

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I agree with whoever wants Casey to be the same. We don't need some black dude pretending to be Casey Jones. We also don't need 'random black dude shoved in there for the sake of putting a black dude in there'.
If Casey's race was changed, he would still be Casey Jones, he wouldn't be a black guy pretending to be Casey Jones. He would literally be the same character.

It wouldn't be a random black dude. It'd be Casey Jones. An important part of the TMNT story. And it wouldn't be for the sake of putting a black dude in there -- it'd be for the sake of making sure non-white viewers feel included.

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I'm Mecican and I don't give a **** if the Avengers have a Mexican member and I won't raise a petition for April to be Latina. Can't someone just be a fan if a comic and cartoon and expect the big epic movie version to be similar enough?
It's cool that you don't care about representation. No, really. But other people do, and that wish should be respected. It really isn't changing much because there are lots of white characters, but so few non-white ones, you know?

EDIT: I found a post that explains what I'm trying to say here.
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:46 AM   #173
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Wow. At this point I'm reasonably SURE you have to be being dense on purpose.

YOU think a character being black is bad. You outright SAID it when you said you'd rather them use a different character than make Casey black, as if it was SO AWFUL to make a white guy black, which, by the way, it isn't. If they created a new character that took Casey's place but wasn't white, people would just call the new character a poor man's Casey. Just look at Nick Fury. Making him black didn't take away from his appeal at all. Nick Fury's ****ing awesome.


Also I just wanted to say that Angel is ****ing awesome.
I never said a character being black is bad. I said I would rather them use an existing character than change the race of a character. I don't want any characters race changed. I don't want a white Saki, white Stockman, or white Yoshi. Also what's wrong with Carter? I understand he's not a popular character, but he could be reinvented as a good character. Look at Secret of the Ooze, Keno worked fine as a character and he wasn't just an Asian Casey. I don't see a reason to make a character black when we have a perfectly good black character who could fill his role. You don't want more more black characters, you want white characters to be replaced with black versions of themselves. You want less white characters, I want more black characters that have unique history's.
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:53 AM   #174
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As I said in a diffrent thread; Since we're borrowing so much from IDW for the turtles movies, let's do something radically diffrent! Instead of bringing in Casey Jones for the 1,000th time as the Turtles vigilante friend, why not take a page from IDW and bring Angel Bridge in as the vigilante hero Nobody? I think it might add a new dyanamic to the fights, and a new dynamic to the turtles's friendship with thier vigilante ally.

It'd add a heck of a lot more diversity to the movies, and not 'change' Casey Jones.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:14 AM   #175
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Wow, what's with all the arguing going on in this thread?

Who knew such an innocent thread about Casey being black would cause such arguments and strife between forum members? Do tell.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:15 AM   #176
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so....I'm all for adding Angel in anyone else???

heck if Angel is black then they can make her Casey's sister~

or keep Casey white and have Angel or Casey adopted.

..................actually I don't care what race Casey is I just want Angel
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:29 AM   #177
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I personally do not want Casey to be black just for the sake of it. If the perfect actor for Casey turns out to be black, then go for it (like they did with Kingpin in the Daredevil movie) but doing it because they feel the need to ad diversity is what I don't want.

My pick for Casey is Aaron Paul. I think his voice is perfect for the character.

Also, I think that people who are actively looking for race representation are the racist. I'm not white and I don't care about race representation. I just want the comic/cartoon translated into film. If the comics are all white characters, blame the comic creators, not the filmakers that are adapting the comics.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:44 AM   #178
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I'm kinda surprised Casey being black hasn't been thought of before. It actually fits his character surprisingly well.
So being Black is now a character Trade huh?...you even Repeated your stupid Statement...i dont get this Place here sometimes...why do so Mann People get banned here but this bozo gets to do this time and Time again
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Wow, what's with all the arguing going on in this thread?

Who knew such an innocent thread about Casey being black would cause such arguments and strife between forum members? Do tell.

I'm betting YOU did.
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