Leonardo Vs. Raphael

NeoBix · 08-14-2004, 07:11 PM

My two favorite ninja turtles: Leonardo and Raphael.

Leonardo, the boy in blue, the swordmaster, with his two gleaming katana blades, and Raphael, or Big Red, as I like to call him, with his two powerful sais.

So, who do you think would win if they were in a serious fight to the death? Who's the better fighter?

Personally, I choose Raphael, because he could just use his sais to defend against Leonardo's sword attacks and then he could manuever around him and stab him.

What do you think? Who would win?

*Kazari* · 08-14-2004, 07:13 PM

I sense a MAJOR argument and a locked topic soon! But i would have to say that Leo would win since he's calmer than Raphael but it also matters what universe you're talking about as well.

avervisal · 08-14-2004, 07:19 PM

Raph

*KROW* · 08-14-2004, 07:30 PM

I think they would be at a stalemate. Neither one would want to fight to the death. But what I think would happen, Leo would win. He's more knowledgable in the arts of ninjitsu and Raph might make a mistake during the fight. Although I like Raph better, I give it to Leo.

One thing's for certain, it would be a L-O-N-G fight.

JDavis · 08-14-2004, 07:33 PM

1) They fight
2) Raph, in one of his hot-headed moments, makes some mistake that gives Leo the advantage
3) Leo effectively wins
4) Raph gets angry/Doesn't accept Leo's victory
5) Lather, rinse, repeat

**Jester** · 08-14-2004, 07:35 PM

there's the pay perview bought of the century.......but i think leo's cooler head would prevail...though i am a raphie guy

08-14-2004, 09:25 PM

Well, when you get down to it, people will tend to back up their favorite characters regardless if it's justifide or not.

I'm a Leonardo fan, so naturaly it's expected that I would go with Leo.
Now, putting that aside and going by statistics and facts, Leonardo is definetly going to be the victorious one.
As awesome as Raphael is as a fighter, Leonardo is the more skilled and more capable fighter.

*Kazari* · 08-14-2004, 09:29 PM

LOL Yeah I am a Don fan but I still say Leo! LOL

08-14-2004, 09:32 PM

I gotta say, Kazari, I love your avatar! It's soooo cute!

*Kazari* · 08-14-2004, 10:30 PM

Oh thankies! My friend Sango drew that for me awhile back! It's of my character, Kazari and Donnie! LOL

*Buslady* · 08-14-2004, 11:49 PM

For one they'd never fight to the death.

But in a fight, I hate to say Leo might win. He could block all he wants with his sai but for striking the weapon must be in close contact with the offender.

Doppleganger · 08-15-2004, 06:41 AM

Yeah probably Leonardo would win. His cool head and better skill would prevail. Raph's hot head is his Achilles heel.

Misfit · 08-15-2004, 11:50 AM

I think Leo.

Raph's blinding rages would just let him down in the long run, ESPECIALLY against Leo. Anger clouds the mind, allowing lots room for sloppiness.

*raphael_is_cool* · 08-15-2004, 01:15 PM

What if they were without weapons? Kinda like Mirage Volume 1, issue 19...

Raph overpowered Leo there, even pinned to the ground with a wooden sword thrust in his face

I'd say most times Leo would probably win, but you never see Raph go into a real rampage (like in the aforementioned issue) and really want to kill his brothers. It's kinda why I consider him quite good against other enemies but against friends or his brothers he holds a little something back

~~leonardo13~~ · 08-15-2004, 01:50 PM

Leo would win because he trains harder.

NiNjAtouRtle · 08-15-2004, 04:29 PM

^exactly he is also seen winnig against all the turtles in shredder strikes but just them two leo becouse he just an overall great fighter

Zelda · 08-15-2004, 05:55 PM

I love Raph, but Leo would win... as said, Raph holds something back against his brothers, plus sais aren't exactly designed to kill so if they were in a deathmatch Leo would still win.

I was never a Leo fan but the new series is definitely getting me into him more and Donny as well. I just love all the guys <3

*Kazari* · 08-15-2004, 06:12 PM

Yeah I use to not like Leo either in the old show but now I respect him.

*Jephael* · 08-16-2004, 05:29 AM

In the original cartoon, Raphael would probably get bored fighting his brother since he's more of a couch potato in that series.

Dr. Terminus · 08-16-2004, 07:01 PM

.. I have been thinking.. and still I have no clue .. on who could win this...

08-14-2004, 07:11 PM	#1
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	Leonardo Vs. Raphael My two favorite ninja turtles: Leonardo and Raphael. Leonardo, the boy in blue, the swordmaster, with his two gleaming katana blades, and Raphael, or Big Red, as I like to call him, with his two powerful sais. So, who do you think would win if they were in a serious fight to the death? Who's the better fighter? Personally, I choose Raphael, because he could just use his sais to defend against Leonardo's sword attacks and then he could manuever around him and stab him. What do you think? Who would win? __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

08-14-2004, 07:13 PM	#2
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	I sense a MAJOR argument and a locked topic soon! But i would have to say that Leo would win since he's calmer than Raphael but it also matters what universe you're talking about as well. __________________ is an official Drako hater

08-14-2004, 07:19 PM	#3
avervisal Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: IL Posts: 452	Raph __________________ Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

08-14-2004, 07:30 PM	#4
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	I think they would be at a stalemate. Neither one would want to fight to the death. But what I think would happen, Leo would win. He's more knowledgable in the arts of ninjitsu and Raph might make a mistake during the fight. Although I like Raph better, I give it to Leo. One thing's for certain, it would be a L-O-N-G fight. __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

08-14-2004, 07:35 PM	#6
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	there's the pay perview bought of the century.......but i think leo's cooler head would prevail...though i am a raphie guy __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-14-2004, 07:33 PM	#5
JDavis Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ada, OK, USA Posts: 212	1) They fight 2) Raph, in one of his hot-headed moments, makes some mistake that gives Leo the advantage 3) Leo effectively wins 4) Raph gets angry/Doesn't accept Leo's victory 5) Lather, rinse, repeat

08-14-2004, 09:25 PM	#7
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	Well, when you get down to it, people will tend to back up their favorite characters regardless if it's justifide or not. I'm a Leonardo fan, so naturaly it's expected that I would go with Leo. Now, putting that aside and going by statistics and facts, Leonardo is definetly going to be the victorious one. As awesome as Raphael is as a fighter, Leonardo is the more skilled and more capable fighter.

08-14-2004, 09:29 PM	#8
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	LOL Yeah I am a Don fan but I still say Leo! LOL __________________ is an official Drako hater

08-14-2004, 09:32 PM	#9
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	I gotta say, Kazari, I love your avatar! It's soooo cute!

08-14-2004, 10:30 PM	#10
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	Oh thankies! My friend Sango drew that for me awhile back! It's of my character, Kazari and Donnie! LOL __________________ is an official Drako hater

08-14-2004, 11:49 PM	#11
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	For one they'd never fight to the death. But in a fight, I hate to say Leo might win. He could block all he wants with his sai but for striking the weapon must be in close contact with the offender. __________________

08-15-2004, 06:41 AM	#12
Doppleganger Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 687	Yeah probably Leonardo would win. His cool head and better skill would prevail. Raph's hot head is his Achilles heel.

08-15-2004, 11:50 AM	#13
Misfit Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 508	I think Leo. Raph's blinding rages would just let him down in the long run, ESPECIALLY against Leo. Anger clouds the mind, allowing lots room for sloppiness. __________________ My LiveJournal My Fanfiction "I'm the pretty one!" - Mikey in "Meet Casey Jones".

08-15-2004, 01:15 PM	#14
raphael_is_cool Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,151	What if they were without weapons? Kinda like Mirage Volume 1, issue 19... Raph overpowered Leo there, even pinned to the ground with a wooden sword thrust in his face I'd say most times Leo would probably win, but you never see Raph go into a real rampage (like in the aforementioned issue) and really want to kill his brothers. It's kinda why I consider him quite good against other enemies but against friends or his brothers he holds a little something back

08-15-2004, 01:50 PM	#15
~~leonardo13~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: poopin on my grandma Posts: 32	Leo would win because he trains harder.

08-15-2004, 04:29 PM	#16
NiNjAtouRtle Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 20	^exactly he is also seen winnig against all the turtles in shredder strikes but just them two leo becouse he just an overall great fighter __________________ AN ALL DAY HORROR CAHNNEL YOU GOTTA SIGN THIS PATITION http://www.petitiononline.com/thc4co...ion-sign.html?

08-15-2004, 05:55 PM	#17
Zelda Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 364	I love Raph, but Leo would win... as said, Raph holds something back against his brothers, plus sais aren't exactly designed to kill so if they were in a deathmatch Leo would still win. I was never a Leo fan but the new series is definitely getting me into him more and Donny as well. I just love all the guys <3 __________________ ~Zelda~ Author of Judgment: Volume I http://www.myspace.com/zellieberraine Inspired by what I love best about TMNT: character dynamics, superheroes that aren't of the Superman variety, genetics, etc

08-15-2004, 06:12 PM	#18
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	Yeah I use to not like Leo either in the old show but now I respect him. __________________ is an official Drako hater

08-16-2004, 05:29 AM	#19
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,142	In the original cartoon, Raphael would probably get bored fighting his brother since he's more of a couch potato in that series. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

08-16-2004, 07:01 PM	#20
Dr. Terminus Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooklyn Zoo Posts: 120	.. I have been thinking.. and still I have no clue .. on who could win this...