Shredder's Voice

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-24-2002, 06:08 AM

Does anyone know why Shredder's original voice was changed for good near the end of the 1993 season? The original Shredder by James Avery was the best; the other voice actors never quite captured the essence of the character.

"Hello, boss. How did you get our private phone number?"
"Simple. I dialed M for moron!"

Rocksteady and Shredder, from "Plan 6 from Outer Space"

**DarthRaphael** · 10-24-2002, 08:02 AM

What year did "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" go on-air?
That may answer your question.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-24-2002, 08:22 AM

I'm not following you. I checked the Internet, and the series ran from 1990 to 1996. James Avery stopped doing Shredder's voice during the latter half of the 1993 season.

Did it hurt his voice or something when he did Shredder's voice?

"No, no, no, please don't hurt me! I'm really very nice once you get to know me!" - Shredder, from "The Turtles and the Hare"

~~PWDESAI~~ · 10-24-2002, 01:11 PM

james avery, what character did he play in fresh prince?

*Deathknight* · 10-24-2002, 01:31 PM

Haven't got a clue... never heard of the show, but James Avery was awesome at doing shredder's voice. and don't gimme this late 1993 season crap. It was the 1st ep of the 1993 when it permenantly changed. In the Euro vacation part of the 1992 season it varied who did his voice... the alternative from 1989-1990, classic, or the new one for 1993 and up. No matter how many times I emphize this nobody understands. The European vacation was 1992 not 1993! Nobody has challenged proof yet but I can give it.

**DarthRaphael** · 10-24-2002, 05:13 PM

He was Philip Banks, Will's uncle.

Check this link http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet.../personid-4444

~~PWDESAI~~ · 10-24-2002, 07:06 PM

that fat dude?

*Nickokapo* · 10-24-2002, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PWDESAI

that fat dude?

lol

~~PWDESAI~~ · 10-24-2002, 07:14 PM

i'll take that as a yes. Ahem yea shredder from season 1 2 and most of 3? was the best. I dunno if it wsa the same guy, cuz then he tricked me

*Nickokapo* · 10-24-2002, 07:22 PM

Yeah the first voice was my favorite one too...

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-24-2002, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathknight

Haven't got a clue... never heard of the show, but James Avery was awesome at doing shredder's voice. and don't gimme this late 1993 season crap. It was the 1st ep of the 1993 when it permenantly changed. In the Euro vacation part of the 1992 season it varied who did his voice... the alternative from 1989-1990, classic, or the new one for 1993 and up. No matter how many times I emphize this nobody understands. The European vacation was 1992 not 1993! Nobody has challenged proof yet but I can give it.

What the heck are you talking about? I didn't even mention the European episodes.

In the first episode of Season 7, "Night of the Dark Turtle," Shredder's voice is portrayed by James Avery, the guy from "Fresh Prince." James Avery was the main person behind Shredder, except for the few times that someone else subbed for him.

Between episodes #161 and #164, James Avery quit doing the voice. I haven't seen episodes #162 or #163, which is why I can't narrow it down. But from #164 on, James Avery was not the man behind Shredder's voice.

For the first half of the season, from "Night of the Dark Turtle" until episode #161, it was James Avery as it had almost always been.

My question, the one that no one has been able to answer yet, is why the guy stopped providing the voice for Shredder.

The European episodes don't have anything to do with this. I wasn't even thinking of them when I wrote the question.

You want to challenge me on the voice thing during 1993, that's fine. But you will end up wrong because I know that I'm right in this case.

"Yeah, yeah, that's nice, Krang." - Shredder, from "Invasion of the Krangezoids"

*Deathknight* · 10-24-2002, 08:41 PM

I won't challenge cause I haven't seen season 7 too much.... I can't really remember if shredder has his new voice in Night of the Dark Turtle, only one I know is Night of the Rouges.

10-24-2002, 08:02 AM	#2
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10-24-2002, 01:31 PM	#5
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Haven't got a clue... never heard of the show, but James Avery was awesome at doing shredder's voice. and don't gimme this late 1993 season crap. It was the 1st ep of the 1993 when it permenantly changed. In the Euro vacation part of the 1992 season it varied who did his voice... the alternative from 1989-1990, classic, or the new one for 1993 and up. No matter how many times I emphize this nobody understands. The European vacation was 1992 not 1993! Nobody has challenged proof yet but I can give it. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

10-24-2002, 05:13 PM	#6
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10-24-2002, 07:22 PM	#10
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,802	Yeah the first voice was my favorite one too... __________________

10-24-2002, 08:41 PM	#12
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	I won't challenge cause I haven't seen season 7 too much.... I can't really remember if shredder has his new voice in Night of the Dark Turtle, only one I know is Night of the Rouges. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

10-24-2002, 06:08 AM	#1
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	Shredder's Voice Does anyone know why Shredder's original voice was changed for good near the end of the 1993 season? The original Shredder by James Avery was the best; the other voice actors never quite captured the essence of the character. "Hello, boss. How did you get our private phone number?" "Simple. I dialed M for moron!" Rocksteady and Shredder, from "Plan 6 from Outer Space"

10-24-2002, 08:22 AM	#3
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	I'm not following you. I checked the Internet, and the series ran from 1990 to 1996. James Avery stopped doing Shredder's voice during the latter half of the 1993 season. Did it hurt his voice or something when he did Shredder's voice? "No, no, no, please don't hurt me! I'm really very nice once you get to know me!" - Shredder, from "The Turtles and the Hare"

10-24-2002, 01:11 PM	#4
~~PWDESAI~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,873	james avery, what character did he play in fresh prince?

10-24-2002, 07:06 PM	#7
~~PWDESAI~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,873	that fat dude?

10-24-2002, 07:14 PM	#9
~~PWDESAI~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,873	i'll take that as a yes. Ahem yea shredder from season 1 2 and most of 3? was the best. I dunno if it wsa the same guy, cuz then he tricked me