Was There A Thing Between Raph and April?

NeoBix · 09-13-2004, 04:28 PM

In the first movie, has anyone else noticed that there are some subtle undertones of romantic love between Raphael and April O'Neil?

Like, the whole thing with his sai. It's almost as if he purposely left it at the crime scene for April to pick up so he could keep an eye on her and protect her. But he acted like he lost it so his brothers wouldn't know about his feelings for April.

Also, when the foots attack her, and he comes along like her knight in shining armor and carries her away to safety.

Then, when they're watching the news, and April mentions Raphael, and his brothers tease him about turning red and he throws his sai at Donny. lol. He was probably mad cuz it's true.. cuz he really does love April like that, but he knows that he's a turtle and it could never work about between a turtle and a human.

Raphael's rivalry between Casey also comes from Raph's jealousy of Casey I think. Even though they do become friends later on, at first Raph is mad at Casey because Casey can be with April but Raph can't be with April.

At the very end of the movie when Casey and April are kissing, Raph's brothers try to comfort him (you just barely notice unless you pay attention) and nudge him to let him know that it's all good. But you can tell that Raph is cool with it after all.

I believe that some of Raph's anger comes from his jealousy of humans, and how he cannot truly be April's lover because he is a turtle.

The first movie was always more serious and adult-like than the other 2 movies, as you guys know. This is a very adult topic and I honestly noticed this stuff when I saw the movie, so I thought I should bring it up.

Also, when Raph falls through the glass at April's antique shop and she puts her arms around him and protects him from the foots while the other 3 turtles are fighting. Then later at her farm house she is pouring water on him in the bath.

Of course, there's the scene where Raph is keeping an eye on April at City Hall before she goes to the subway station.

C'mon!! I wasn't the only one who thought Raph was in love with April, right???

Oh yeah, and since we're on the subject of rivalry between Casey and Raph. Did anyone else notice that after Raph finally woke up from being knocked out at April's farm house, he NEVER said a single thing about having met Casey before on the streets of midnight New York City and fighting him, and getting really really pissed at him?

Just thought it was kind of funny. For someone who humiliated Raphael as much as Casey did, you would've thought Raph would've tried to start something with him after he found him hanging out with April and his brothers and especially hitting on April (who is Raph's wishful lover).

Well... ok, what do you guys think?

*KROW* · 09-13-2004, 04:31 PM

I think we should pass this one over to Buslady.

*heretic888* · 09-13-2004, 04:36 PM

If by "subtle undertones of romantic love" you actually mean "adolescent crush", then yes.

Hamato Inya · 09-13-2004, 04:38 PM

yah i think that there was a thing going on... which makes me think which one of the turtles would suit april better.... *walks out of thread thinking and runs into a pole and falls off a cliff and then limps out holding head and muttering dark curses*

NeoBix · 09-13-2004, 04:42 PM

LMAO Hamato!!!

*throws Hamato into the bathtub with Raph to let her heal from her injuries*

You two get along nicely now. And no biting.

**Jo Dawn** · 09-13-2004, 04:46 PM

I... never saw it... But I dunno. I don't know, I never saw it, myself...

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Originally Posted by NeoBix

You two get along nicely now. And no biting.

*blink* *shakes head* Nevermind... lol...

Shadow Leonardo · 09-13-2004, 05:11 PM

but doesn't April like Casey?

Hamato Inya · 09-13-2004, 05:13 PM

yah but she and Casey didn't get together in the end and they were already apart in the third movie... i mean if they weren't wouldn't Casey have begged to go?

oh and dont mind the whole bathtub thing TMNTLeonardo *laughs*

NeoBix · 09-13-2004, 05:17 PM

Lol...

Yeah, in number 2, Mikey is in love with April... cuz.. remember the telephone scene in their new sewer home..

Mikey: "Hi April, I just wanted to say... hellooooooooooo."

hahahaha I still love that scene to this day. I need to try that on the phone with a girl someday and see if she laughs.

Hamato Inya · 09-13-2004, 05:23 PM

but you have to fight over it with someone first Neo! yah and then he started kissing the phone... oh that was a good scene!

Orochi Chimera · 09-13-2004, 06:13 PM

I think it depends on your perception of things. They might use subtle hints or it might just seem that way. I think all 4 turtles might be attracted to her. I mean they are teenagers. It depends on your point of view.

NeoBix · 09-13-2004, 06:15 PM

ya that is true they could all have a crush on her..

and ya Hamato I need to try that deal when I order pizza sometime. the thing that Mikey said on the phone in the first movie LOL.

Hamato Inya · 09-13-2004, 06:17 PM

yes yes and then take money off since they were late!

Mikey: it saves money

Raph: you forgot the tax Mikey taking three dollars off would've been thirteen not ten... geesh

NeoBix · 09-13-2004, 06:19 PM

lol ya the pizza guy would be so mad at me if I did that!! I don't know if I could do that!!

*Weapon X* · 09-13-2004, 06:20 PM

You have never done that! T do it all the time and I alway's say "Never pay full price for late pizza".

**Jo Dawn** · 09-13-2004, 06:45 PM

Hehe...

Well, I always thought Raph more admired April. I mean, she's pretty gutsy at times. I think he admired that about her.

As for pairing April with a different person... you all know who my choice is...

**GK Punk** · 09-13-2004, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Hehe...

Well, I always thought Raph more admired April. I mean, she's pretty gutsy at times. I think he admired that about her.

As for pairing April with a different person... you all know who my choice is...

Hah, couldn't imagine who that would be

(Glares at your avatar)

Hamato Inya · 09-13-2004, 06:54 PM

avatar? oh avatar! got it it computes..... heh heh

i still say that April and Leo fit

**Jo Dawn** · 09-13-2004, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamato Inya

yah i think we do

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Originally Posted by Alison Chains

Hah, couldn't imagine who that would be

(Glares at your avatar)

*blink* Am I that transparent??

Hehe...

*Whitewolf89* · 09-13-2004, 10:07 PM

LOL You guys are certifiable, you DO know this, don't you?!

09-13-2004, 04:28 PM	#1
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	Was There A Thing Between Raph and April? In the first movie, has anyone else noticed that there are some subtle undertones of romantic love between Raphael and April O'Neil? Like, the whole thing with his sai. It's almost as if he purposely left it at the crime scene for April to pick up so he could keep an eye on her and protect her. But he acted like he lost it so his brothers wouldn't know about his feelings for April. Also, when the foots attack her, and he comes along like her knight in shining armor and carries her away to safety. Then, when they're watching the news, and April mentions Raphael, and his brothers tease him about turning red and he throws his sai at Donny. lol. He was probably mad cuz it's true.. cuz he really does love April like that, but he knows that he's a turtle and it could never work about between a turtle and a human. Raphael's rivalry between Casey also comes from Raph's jealousy of Casey I think. Even though they do become friends later on, at first Raph is mad at Casey because Casey can be with April but Raph can't be with April. At the very end of the movie when Casey and April are kissing, Raph's brothers try to comfort him (you just barely notice unless you pay attention) and nudge him to let him know that it's all good. But you can tell that Raph is cool with it after all. I believe that some of Raph's anger comes from his jealousy of humans, and how he cannot truly be April's lover because he is a turtle. The first movie was always more serious and adult-like than the other 2 movies, as you guys know. This is a very adult topic and I honestly noticed this stuff when I saw the movie, so I thought I should bring it up. Also, when Raph falls through the glass at April's antique shop and she puts her arms around him and protects him from the foots while the other 3 turtles are fighting. Then later at her farm house she is pouring water on him in the bath. Of course, there's the scene where Raph is keeping an eye on April at City Hall before she goes to the subway station. C'mon!! I wasn't the only one who thought Raph was in love with April, right??? Oh yeah, and since we're on the subject of rivalry between Casey and Raph. Did anyone else notice that after Raph finally woke up from being knocked out at April's farm house, he NEVER said a single thing about having met Casey before on the streets of midnight New York City and fighting him, and getting really really pissed at him? Just thought it was kind of funny. For someone who humiliated Raphael as much as Casey did, you would've thought Raph would've tried to start something with him after he found him hanging out with April and his brothers and especially hitting on April (who is Raph's wishful lover). Well... ok, what do you guys think? __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

09-13-2004, 04:31 PM	#2
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	I think we should pass this one over to Buslady. __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

09-13-2004, 04:36 PM	#3
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	If by "subtle undertones of romantic love" you actually mean "adolescent crush", then yes. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

09-13-2004, 04:38 PM	#4
Hamato Inya Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In the minivan behind your house! Ooh ooh I see you! waves Posts: 252	yah i think that there was a thing going on... which makes me think which one of the turtles would suit april better.... walks out of thread thinking and runs into a pole and falls off a cliff and then limps out holding head and muttering dark curses __________________ Mikey: I don’t know what bothers me more… that this thing actually works or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet.

09-13-2004, 04:42 PM	#5
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	LMAO Hamato!!! throws Hamato into the bathtub with Raph to let her heal from her injuries You two get along nicely now. And no biting. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

09-13-2004, 05:11 PM	#7
Shadow Leonardo Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Realizing that being a freshman stinks Posts: 145	but doesn't April like Casey? __________________ Dooku:"You have anger,you have hate, but you don't use them."

09-13-2004, 05:13 PM	#8
Hamato Inya Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In the minivan behind your house! Ooh ooh I see you! waves Posts: 252	yah but she and Casey didn't get together in the end and they were already apart in the third movie... i mean if they weren't wouldn't Casey have begged to go? oh and dont mind the whole bathtub thing TMNTLeonardo laughs __________________ Mikey: I don’t know what bothers me more… that this thing actually works or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet.

09-13-2004, 05:17 PM	#9
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	Lol... Yeah, in number 2, Mikey is in love with April... cuz.. remember the telephone scene in their new sewer home.. Mikey: "Hi April, I just wanted to say... hellooooooooooo." hahahaha I still love that scene to this day. I need to try that on the phone with a girl someday and see if she laughs. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

09-13-2004, 05:23 PM	#10
Hamato Inya Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In the minivan behind your house! Ooh ooh I see you! waves Posts: 252	but you have to fight over it with someone first Neo! yah and then he started kissing the phone... oh that was a good scene! __________________ Mikey: I don’t know what bothers me more… that this thing actually works or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet.

09-13-2004, 06:13 PM	#11
Orochi Chimera Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,289	I think it depends on your perception of things. They might use subtle hints or it might just seem that way. I think all 4 turtles might be attracted to her. I mean they are teenagers. It depends on your point of view. __________________

09-13-2004, 06:15 PM	#12
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	ya that is true they could all have a crush on her.. and ya Hamato I need to try that deal when I order pizza sometime. the thing that Mikey said on the phone in the first movie LOL. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

09-13-2004, 06:17 PM	#13
Hamato Inya Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In the minivan behind your house! Ooh ooh I see you! waves Posts: 252	yes yes and then take money off since they were late! Mikey: it saves money Raph: you forgot the tax Mikey taking three dollars off would've been thirteen not ten... geesh __________________ Mikey: I don’t know what bothers me more… that this thing actually works or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet.

09-13-2004, 06:19 PM	#14
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	lol ya the pizza guy would be so mad at me if I did that!! I don't know if I could do that!! __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

09-13-2004, 06:20 PM	#15
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	You have never done that! T do it all the time and I alway's say "Never pay full price for late pizza".

09-13-2004, 06:45 PM	#16
Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	Hehe... Well, I always thought Raph more admired April. I mean, she's pretty gutsy at times. I think he admired that about her. As for pairing April with a different person... you all know who my choice is... __________________

09-13-2004, 06:54 PM	#18
Hamato Inya Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In the minivan behind your house! Ooh ooh I see you! waves Posts: 252	avatar? oh avatar! got it it computes..... heh heh i still say that April and Leo fit __________________ Mikey: I don’t know what bothers me more… that this thing actually works or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet.

09-13-2004, 10:07 PM	#20
Whitewolf89 Freedom Fighter and Ninja Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Currently residing in the Turtles' Lair, NYC sewer system, NYC, NY Posts: 2,927	LOL You guys are certifiable, you DO know this, don't you?! __________________ Brother against brother...........