the tmnt cartoons and their respective toylines

*Coola Yagami* · 09-20-2004, 12:40 AM

I noticed a kind of backwards thing with the toys and cartoons. In the old show, the series was very toybased. Like, Playmates would release various figures and eventually they'd be in the show. They'd skip a few like Fugitoid and Pizza Face, but for the most part every new figure or vehicle would wind up in the show around the time of their release.

Now that's not to say the new show isn't completely non-toybased. We still see Donnie crankin out the Sewer Slider, ShellCycle, Shell Sub and other stuff. But the figures are different. Now the figures are based on the show, not the other way around. In fact I think the only figure that appeared in toy form before they were in the cartoon were the Foot Gunners and Turtlebot. I think the only figures not appearing in the cartoon are the giant mouser and their take on baxter.

*Kazari* · 09-20-2004, 04:19 AM

No actually a LOT of the new toys that are coming out are not based on the show. I have seen pics of them *nods*

*Coola Yagami* · 09-20-2004, 10:15 AM

which ones? Like I said, all the figures except the Giant Mouser and their version of Baxter are already in the show. The newer ones like the Guardian Ninja, Shredder Clones and the upcoming Splinter in the stasis pod and Usagi Yojimbo are all from the show too. Hell, we're overdue for a Karai figure dammit. The variants don't count cause it's not like the TMNT are gonna start wearing all kinds of stupid outfits just cause of the figures.

Karai · 09-20-2004, 10:29 AM

The Turtles variants are the only toys I can figure are not featured in the show. Otherwise, I do agree with you - The old series tended to go off Playmates' toy designs and stick in those random characters in different episodes wherever they could. This time the cartoon is holding the reigns and playing leader to Playmates', which I think is smart. Doesn't mean they're making great toys these days (some of the new stuff is disappointing, but others I'm really anxious to start collecting) but I think it's a vast improvement. Besides...

Playmates did a perfectly good job on their Slash figure and look what the animators of the old toon did to him. Perhaps they've learned their lesson.

JDavis · 09-20-2004, 07:26 PM

Don't forget, some of the old toys were based on the Archie TMNT characters as well.

*Kazari* · 09-20-2004, 07:27 PM

No they have Ripped Turtles, and Knight Turtles as well. I am waiting for the Big Brawl figurines! Those look cool!!

*KROW* · 09-20-2004, 07:30 PM

I am still anxiously awaiting the Drag Queen Turtles.

*Coola Yagami* · 09-20-2004, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW

I am still anxiously awaiting the Drag Queen Turtles.

Now now.. let's not be giving Playmates any ideas....

*KROW* · 09-20-2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Now now.. let's be giving Playmates any ideas....

Let's be? Okay. I'll e-mail them.

*Weapon X* · 09-20-2004, 07:40 PM

Drag Queen turtles thats taking it too far.

Karai · 09-20-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW

I am still anxiously awaiting the Drag Queen Turtles.

I think I smell ideas for custom figures cooking around here...

*Kazari* · 09-20-2004, 08:19 PM

Gah don't ruin them!!! I just wish they would make Fallen Angel TMNT how hard is that?

*Coola Yagami* · 09-20-2004, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Now now.. let's be giving Playmates any ideas....

Let's be? Okay. I'll e-mail them.

lmao oh you know what I mean.

Anyways, I agree with the person that wanted Fallen Angel TMNT. The thing is, Playmates makes their stuff look too goofy and childish instead of really make it look bad-ass. I see my MOTU figures and check out the awesome variants of He Man/Skeletor I have and think Playmates would rather make the TMNT wear disco outfits reather than kick-ass armor. I think the tmnt dressed the way they were in Fallen Angel would be the coolest variants ever, especially when compared to those astronauts and scuba diver ones.

*Kazari* · 09-20-2004, 08:56 PM

then they should make figures that are not meant to be toys like they do with anime figures and stuff and make them to be in their outfits from Golden Puck and Fallen Angel!

MasterMole · 09-22-2004, 03:24 PM

Definately, there should be variant figures from the episode "Fallen Angel." They looked cool in that episode, wearing hoods, chains, and shades.
I just don't know why we're not getting them. It makes perfect sense to make these figures, right from the show. Some kind of "Undercover" Turtles would be nice. Instead, they're making these non-show variants that are just silly. It would be fine if these silly figures were made, but first make show-accurate variants; for crying outloud.

*Kazari* · 09-22-2004, 03:26 PM

Trust me I keep emailing them about it! LOL

Orochi Chimera · 09-22-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW

I am still anxiously awaiting the Drag Queen Turtles.

I'm sure parents would love those.

NeoBix · 09-22-2004, 07:06 PM

What's wrong with the old toon Slash? I thought he was cool.

*Kazari* · 09-22-2004, 08:30 PM

Stupid as a seaslug slash

NeoBix · 09-23-2004, 04:56 AM

He was stupid as a seaslug??? lol why???

from what I remember he was pretty cool. then again that was a long time ago that I saw him on the old toon.

09-20-2004, 12:40 AM	#1
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	the tmnt cartoons and their respective toylines I noticed a kind of backwards thing with the toys and cartoons. In the old show, the series was very toybased. Like, Playmates would release various figures and eventually they'd be in the show. They'd skip a few like Fugitoid and Pizza Face, but for the most part every new figure or vehicle would wind up in the show around the time of their release. Now that's not to say the new show isn't completely non-toybased. We still see Donnie crankin out the Sewer Slider, ShellCycle, Shell Sub and other stuff. But the figures are different. Now the figures are based on the show, not the other way around. In fact I think the only figure that appeared in toy form before they were in the cartoon were the Foot Gunners and Turtlebot. I think the only figures not appearing in the cartoon are the giant mouser and their take on baxter.

09-20-2004, 04:19 AM	#2
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	No actually a LOT of the new toys that are coming out are not based on the show. I have seen pics of them nods __________________ is an official Drako hater

09-20-2004, 10:29 AM	#4
Karai Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Where you least expect it Posts: 344	The Turtles variants are the only toys I can figure are not featured in the show. Otherwise, I do agree with you - The old series tended to go off Playmates' toy designs and stick in those random characters in different episodes wherever they could. This time the cartoon is holding the reigns and playing leader to Playmates', which I think is smart. Doesn't mean they're making great toys these days (some of the new stuff is disappointing, but others I'm really anxious to start collecting) but I think it's a vast improvement. Besides... Playmates did a perfectly good job on their Slash figure and look what the animators of the old toon did to him. Perhaps they've learned their lesson. __________________

09-20-2004, 07:26 PM	#5
JDavis Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ada, OK, USA Posts: 212	Don't forget, some of the old toys were based on the Archie TMNT characters as well. __________________ Everyone should read MNT Gaiden, by Tigerfog

09-20-2004, 07:27 PM	#6
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	No they have Ripped Turtles, and Knight Turtles as well. I am waiting for the Big Brawl figurines! Those look cool!! __________________ is an official Drako hater

09-20-2004, 10:15 AM	#3
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	which ones? Like I said, all the figures except the Giant Mouser and their version of Baxter are already in the show. The newer ones like the Guardian Ninja, Shredder Clones and the upcoming Splinter in the stasis pod and Usagi Yojimbo are all from the show too. Hell, we're overdue for a Karai figure dammit. The variants don't count cause it's not like the TMNT are gonna start wearing all kinds of stupid outfits just cause of the figures.

09-20-2004, 07:30 PM	#7
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	I am still anxiously awaiting the Drag Queen Turtles. __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

09-20-2004, 07:40 PM	#10
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	Drag Queen turtles thats taking it too far.

09-20-2004, 08:19 PM	#12
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	Gah don't ruin them!!! I just wish they would make Fallen Angel TMNT how hard is that? __________________ is an official Drako hater

09-20-2004, 08:56 PM	#14
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	then they should make figures that are not meant to be toys like they do with anime figures and stuff and make them to be in their outfits from Golden Puck and Fallen Angel! __________________ is an official Drako hater

09-22-2004, 03:24 PM	#15
MasterMole Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Willow Grove, PA Posts: 213	Definately, there should be variant figures from the episode "Fallen Angel." They looked cool in that episode, wearing hoods, chains, and shades. I just don't know why we're not getting them. It makes perfect sense to make these figures, right from the show. Some kind of "Undercover" Turtles would be nice. Instead, they're making these non-show variants that are just silly. It would be fine if these silly figures were made, but first make show-accurate variants; for crying outloud. __________________ TMNT are Cool. I anticipate buying the next toy(I hope) and watching the next episode. Will a company please give the Proper DVD release to the current and classic Turtles cartoons? Playmates Toys: Shape Up, OR feast on my large,lumpy,hairy MOLE, then Back Off!

09-22-2004, 03:26 PM	#16
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	Trust me I keep emailing them about it! LOL __________________ is an official Drako hater

09-22-2004, 07:06 PM	#18
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	What's wrong with the old toon Slash? I thought he was cool. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

09-22-2004, 08:30 PM	#19
Kazari Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nexus: Chasing after the Ultimate Ninja Posts: 2,731	Stupid as a seaslug slash __________________ is an official Drako hater

09-23-2004, 04:56 AM	#20
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	He was stupid as a seaslug??? lol why??? from what I remember he was pretty cool. then again that was a long time ago that I saw him on the old toon. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"