TMNT The Movie Original Version

Sloppy1983 · 06-05-2005, 01:48 AM

I remember that when I saw Turtles 1 in theatres, there were at LEAST 2 scenes that were cut and have never been seen since. (by me)
1. When Shredder is standing in front of an audience of potential Foot
Clan, a red carpet is rolled out toward Shredder and 2 potentials run up
to challenge him. They fail miserably. This all happens after the black
cape thing is removed from his shoulder pads.
2. After April's apartment burns down and they move to the country house,
the Turtles go to a field to train. Originally the scene was longer,
Donatello was rolling a piece of hey in his mouth like a toothpick while the training continued. I think he was standing in front of a fence or something.
I am not the only one who remembers these scenes, 2 of my brothers also
remember them.
I just want to know if anyone was aware of them and if anyone heard
about them being released on a different version DVD, maybe the laserdisc?
If we could find someone with a New York bootleg from when the movie was
in theatres, it would surely be in there.
I bought the VHS right when it came out years ago, and the first print USA DVD release.
I wonder if Laird remembers this.
Anyway, I just wanted to see if anyone else remembered, because this has been bothering me for over a decade!
Thanks

Sloppy1983 · 06-05-2005, 01:51 AM

I just wanted to add something.
If you have your reservations about this. FF to the Shredder scene, the back of Shredder should be in the foreground, and you should see 2 Foot standing straight across from him. And the entire removing of the cape seems kind of pointless now.

Dragnskull · 06-05-2005, 02:03 AM

you mentioning this jared 2 things in my mind:

1. i remember the shredder vs. reqruit fight scene kindof...
and
2. i remember another scene that isnt shown anymore, at the beginning of the movie (part 1) shredder is waching april on tv doing a report of the recent muggings and whatnot (i THINK hes watching tv's stacked on one another, multiple tvs) and he raises his hand, and throws a dagger/knife into one of the screens.

Sloppy1983 · 06-05-2005, 02:10 AM

I just checked my DVD, that scene appears at 17:50 in the film. Good though.
I need to try and find someone who has one of those NY bootlegs, or a reel of the actual film.
Thank you.

Dragnskull · 06-05-2005, 02:49 AM

wait..so him throwing the dagger DOES show in the film?

i didnt think it did...man...i need to bone up... *goes n watches the movie*

classictmnt3 · 06-05-2005, 06:27 AM

i liked the first one almost as much as the second and i think it wil even be better then the new one because the new series isnt that great compared to the classics

*Mecha Cow* · 06-05-2005, 06:42 AM

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i liked the first one almost as much as the second and i think it wil even be better then the new one because the new series isnt that great compared to the classics

You do realise the first movie was based on the Mirage comics and not the 80's cartoon, right? Just like the new series is based on the Mirage comics? Oops. What does this have to do with anything anyway?

Anyway, those scenes sound pretty cool, especially the first one, I wish I could have seen it. I still hope they release some kind of Special Edition DVD someday.

*Buslady* · 06-05-2005, 02:17 PM

The scene with the kids challenging shredder isnt in the movie. The kids getting headbands is. 'course i usually skip those scenes cause they're boring.

there is a brief glimpse of Donnie in the background with that silly hat on during training at the farmhouse, it's when leo has his bandana turned and challenges Raph but nothing focused on donnie with the piece of hay in his mouth. there's the poster like that tho.

there's a whole mess of scenes that should have STAYED IN the movie.

Sloppy1983 · 06-05-2005, 02:44 PM

Yes! My brother has that poster too. We were really big TMNT fans back then. I watched the trailer, and there is a scene where the Turtles' shells come out of a lake. This was cut from the film, I dont think it was even in theatres, because we actually came home after the movie and read the movie based comic book which had that in the book. Im sure the other scenes are there too.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-07-2005, 10:55 PM

I remember those scenes that you mentioned with the Shredder beating up on those challengers and the extended scene of the turtles training in the field. I remember taping this movie off the tv and they where on there but on the dvd they are not. And I don't know why, I wish I could find that old tape of the Classic Ninja turtles move so I could see it.

d_osborn · 06-07-2005, 11:11 PM

both of those scenes are in the original shooting script. no clue about where to find the footage, though. our best bet is if new line releases a bonus-filled SE dvd in alongside the CGI film...

*Buslady* · 06-08-2005, 06:55 AM

All of the original scenes are in the script, they just got hacked out later on...
I should make a list of all of the missing scenes. hehe...

supposeldy Peter Laird has a tape of the missing stuff, they're very rough- no voice work and probably cruddy looking - but entertaining.

Raphael29 · 06-19-2005, 01:23 AM

First one was/is the best. Introduced us to everyone, Shredder was Freakin' Awesome in it and the movie was just more serious and realistic then the latter two.

Jed · 06-19-2005, 04:10 PM

I remember having both those scenes on VHS recorded off Sky Movies when the film was first being shown on TV. I can find my copies of the second and third film but the first film seems to have disappeared

I'll have another good look for them tomorrow and if I find them I'll post again!

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 06-20-2005, 01:23 AM

Come think of it, I do remember noticing a few things missing when I bought the tape as a kid that I could've sworn were in the theatrical version.

Though, every showing I've ever seen has included the "Dagger at the TV" scene.

NeoBix · 06-20-2005, 04:06 PM

There's also a scene where Casey and April go out on a date to a pizza parlor but that one was cut from the DVD too. i remember it from the theatre version though.

FALLEN ELDOR · 07-08-2005, 06:23 PM

I remember the extended training on April's farm. I would love to see Shredder taking on his students! I do remember the Behind the Shells
making of video and the HBO first look I think that's where I saw the extended fight scenes.

06-05-2005, 01:48 AM	#1
Sloppy1983 Mouser Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5	TMNT The Movie Original Version I remember that when I saw Turtles 1 in theatres, there were at LEAST 2 scenes that were cut and have never been seen since. (by me) 1. When Shredder is standing in front of an audience of potential Foot Clan, a red carpet is rolled out toward Shredder and 2 potentials run up to challenge him. They fail miserably. This all happens after the black cape thing is removed from his shoulder pads. 2. After April's apartment burns down and they move to the country house, the Turtles go to a field to train. Originally the scene was longer, Donatello was rolling a piece of hey in his mouth like a toothpick while the training continued. I think he was standing in front of a fence or something. I am not the only one who remembers these scenes, 2 of my brothers also remember them. I just want to know if anyone was aware of them and if anyone heard about them being released on a different version DVD, maybe the laserdisc? If we could find someone with a New York bootleg from when the movie was in theatres, it would surely be in there. I bought the VHS right when it came out years ago, and the first print USA DVD release. I wonder if Laird remembers this. Anyway, I just wanted to see if anyone else remembered, because this has been bothering me for over a decade! Thanks

06-05-2005, 01:51 AM	#2
Sloppy1983 Mouser Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5	Addition I just wanted to add something. If you have your reservations about this. FF to the Shredder scene, the back of Shredder should be in the foreground, and you should see 2 Foot standing straight across from him. And the entire removing of the cape seems kind of pointless now.

06-05-2005, 02:10 AM	#4
Sloppy1983 Mouser Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5	I just checked my DVD, that scene appears at 17:50 in the film. Good though. I need to try and find someone who has one of those NY bootlegs, or a reel of the actual film. Thank you. Last edited by Sloppy1983; 06-05-2005 at 02:46 AM.

06-05-2005, 02:17 PM	#8
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	The scene with the kids challenging shredder isnt in the movie. The kids getting headbands is. 'course i usually skip those scenes cause they're boring. there is a brief glimpse of Donnie in the background with that silly hat on during training at the farmhouse, it's when leo has his bandana turned and challenges Raph but nothing focused on donnie with the piece of hay in his mouth. there's the poster like that tho. there's a whole mess of scenes that should have STAYED IN the movie. __________________ Last edited by Buslady; 06-05-2005 at 08:30 PM.

06-08-2005, 06:55 AM	#12
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	All of the original scenes are in the script, they just got hacked out later on... I should make a list of all of the missing scenes. hehe... supposeldy Peter Laird has a tape of the missing stuff, they're very rough- no voice work and probably cruddy looking - but entertaining. __________________

06-05-2005, 02:03 AM	#3
Dragnskull Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Humble, Texas Posts: 766	you mentioning this jared 2 things in my mind: 1. i remember the shredder vs. reqruit fight scene kindof... and 2. i remember another scene that isnt shown anymore, at the beginning of the movie (part 1) shredder is waching april on tv doing a report of the recent muggings and whatnot (i THINK hes watching tv's stacked on one another, multiple tvs) and he raises his hand, and throws a dagger/knife into one of the screens.

06-05-2005, 02:49 AM	#5
Dragnskull Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Humble, Texas Posts: 766	wait..so him throwing the dagger DOES show in the film? i didnt think it did...man...i need to bone up... goes n watches the movie

06-05-2005, 06:27 AM	#6
classictmnt3 Thug Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 77	i liked the first one almost as much as the second and i think it wil even be better then the new one because the new series isnt that great compared to the classics

06-05-2005, 02:44 PM	#9
Sloppy1983 Mouser Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5	Yes! My brother has that poster too. We were really big TMNT fans back then. I watched the trailer, and there is a scene where the Turtles' shells come out of a lake. This was cut from the film, I dont think it was even in theatres, because we actually came home after the movie and read the movie based comic book which had that in the book. Im sure the other scenes are there too.

06-07-2005, 10:55 PM	#10
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	I remember those scenes that you mentioned with the Shredder beating up on those challengers and the extended scene of the turtles training in the field. I remember taping this movie off the tv and they where on there but on the dvd they are not. And I don't know why, I wish I could find that old tape of the Classic Ninja turtles move so I could see it.

06-07-2005, 11:11 PM	#11
d_osborn Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,426	both of those scenes are in the original shooting script. no clue about where to find the footage, though. our best bet is if new line releases a bonus-filled SE dvd in alongside the CGI film...

06-19-2005, 01:23 AM	#13
Raphael29 Thug Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 75	First one was/is the best. Introduced us to everyone, Shredder was Freakin' Awesome in it and the movie was just more serious and realistic then the latter two. __________________ Raphael29

06-19-2005, 04:10 PM	#14
Jed Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 956	I remember having both those scenes on VHS recorded off Sky Movies when the film was first being shown on TV. I can find my copies of the second and third film but the first film seems to have disappeared I'll have another good look for them tomorrow and if I find them I'll post again! __________________ I am Frank-Zappa-as-imagined-by-the-editor-of-a-famous-rock-&-roll-magazine. I am an anachronism who makes the ugliest music on the planet. I have no right to call myself a member of the human race. I am tasteless, untalented, pompous, arrogant, cruel, insensitive, vulgar and not a fun guy because I don't use drugs.

06-20-2005, 01:23 AM	#15
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Come think of it, I do remember noticing a few things missing when I bought the tape as a kid that I could've sworn were in the theatrical version. Though, every showing I've ever seen has included the "Dagger at the TV" scene. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

06-20-2005, 04:06 PM	#16
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	There's also a scene where Casey and April go out on a date to a pizza parlor but that one was cut from the DVD too. i remember it from the theatre version though. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

07-08-2005, 06:23 PM	#17
FALLEN ELDOR Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 298	I remember the extended training on April's farm. I would love to see Shredder taking on his students! I do remember the Behind the Shells making of video and the HBO first look I think that's where I saw the extended fight scenes. __________________ The first movie was a perfect balance between the adult comics and the children's cartoon!