Which is the better version of the origin of Splinter?

*Duke* · 12-08-2002, 01:57 PM

So which one do you like? The cartoon version where Splinter is a human then mutated into a rat or the comic/movie version where he has always been a rat. I just want to know.

Zenrick · 12-08-2002, 01:58 PM

Of course the cartoon, anyone that thinks differently would have to be a Wiccan or something.

Shellfox · 12-08-2002, 06:10 PM

Like I said eairler today the cartoon makes more sence, A rat learning martial arts in a cage is hard to believe. Rats are highly intelligent, and can do more than humans give them credit, but learning martial arts goes beyond what rodents are capable of.

*Nickokapo* · 12-08-2002, 06:21 PM

I prefer the cartoon one not only because it was the one i like the most and the first one i saw but also because the idea of a rat mimicking the moves of his master was ridiculous

Zenrick · 12-08-2002, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickokapo

I prefer the cartoon one not only because it was the one i like the most and the first one i saw but also because the idea of a rat mimicking the moves of his master was ridiculous

AMEN.............why dont the comic lovers and promoters have anything to say? COME ON!!!

*Nickokapo* · 12-08-2002, 06:27 PM

Heh...dont worry, i'm sure we'll hear karpo's rant about the comic story being the true tmnt and all that stuff soon

Zenrick · 12-08-2002, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickokapo

Heh...dont worry, i'm sure we'll hear karpo's rant about the comic story being the true tmnt and all that stuff soon

........waiting

*Duke* · 12-08-2002, 06:30 PM

Yeah i started this poll because everyone just kept saying that the comic/movie version was so much better, but i just don't see them voting? I only asked the question because i wanted a majority opinion and so far the majority seems to agree with me. I know there most be more than 1 person who disagrees with me so please start voting. I won't arque you over it I just want to know what everyone thinks.

Mondo_Gecko · 12-08-2002, 06:30 PM

The cartoon one was the best, and yeah i hated the whole rat ninja thing as Nick said it was just plain silly.

Greed · 12-08-2002, 06:34 PM

The Archie/cartoon story is ok but the Mirage/movie one is way better

Zenrick · 12-08-2002, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slash89

The Archie/cartoon story is ok but the Mirage/movie one is way better

yaaaaaaay! theres one!

the cartoon is still winning, bring more anti-cartooners in here Slash

Shellfox · 12-08-2002, 06:39 PM

Comic may have more depth, but givin the physics of the 2 realities only the cartoon could happen.
Rats simply don't have the mental capabilities to retain that much knowledge of martial arts

Greed · 12-08-2002, 06:44 PM

When I asked this Question people liked th mirage/movie I don't know what happened

*Nickokapo* · 12-08-2002, 06:55 PM

Maybe not many comic fans seen this one yet

Greed · 12-08-2002, 07:00 PM

yeah thats it

**Kali** · 12-08-2002, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellfox

Comic may have more depth, but givin the physics of the 2 realities only the cartoon could happen.
Rats simply don't have the mental capabilities to retain that much knowledge of martial arts

Actually, rats are VERY intelligent. They remember and comprehend and lot more than humans give them credit for. If they weren't so smart, how come they survive so well, even with many people trying to kill them?

Suspending belief for the moment that either situation could actually occur, and based on my brand of logic, I have to vote for the Mirage/movie origin. But I would rather the cartoon origin be true, since there's a lot more variety in stories that way, from a fictional standpoint.

Shellfox · 12-08-2002, 07:31 PM

Kali if you read my first post I think I said rats were smarter than human give them credit for.
Yeah they'te smart they can memorise areas and patterns, understand images and scents. But to a degree the rats intelligence is also based in instinct. It understands inviroments so it can escape if hunted, being in a cage owned by humans his need to know how to survive will decrease. A rat will mimic a person but not graps many aspects of what its doing, nor can it mimic certain moves due to its anatomy. The degree of skill the Normal Rat Splinter would need for for the comic origin to be true simply can't exist dfue to the rats renintin capabilities. The instincs to survive would over ride the knowledge he learned reverting more to a primal nature making him forget most of it.

*Nickokapo* · 12-08-2002, 07:35 PM

I wouldn't think so deep about it, after all, it might've been kinda ridiculous, but it was aimed to be a parody (the first issue anyways) so the more ridiculous the funnier.
Of course, the tmnt popularity grew and the comic got serious...but still...

Shellfox · 12-08-2002, 07:42 PM

Sorry but I've been really into animals most of my life and know a lot of little details, that have no real importance

*Jephael* · 12-08-2002, 07:43 PM

I'm siding with the cartoon version on this one. It just made better sense.

View Poll Results: Which origin of Splinter do you prefer?
The cartoon	16	61.54%
The comic/movie	10	38.46%
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12-08-2002, 01:57 PM	#1
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	Which is the better version of the origin of Splinter? So which one do you like? The cartoon version where Splinter is a human then mutated into a rat or the comic/movie version where he has always been a rat. I just want to know.

12-08-2002, 01:58 PM	#2
Zenrick Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 268	Of course the cartoon, anyone that thinks differently would have to be a Wiccan or something. __________________ DRR DRR DRR DRR (a retard asking for a coke)

12-08-2002, 06:21 PM	#4
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,802	I prefer the cartoon one not only because it was the one i like the most and the first one i saw but also because the idea of a rat mimicking the moves of his master was ridiculous __________________

12-08-2002, 06:27 PM	#6
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,802	Heh...dont worry, i'm sure we'll hear karpo's rant about the comic story being the true tmnt and all that stuff soon __________________

12-08-2002, 06:10 PM	#3
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Like I said eairler today the cartoon makes more sence, A rat learning martial arts in a cage is hard to believe. Rats are highly intelligent, and can do more than humans give them credit, but learning martial arts goes beyond what rodents are capable of.

12-08-2002, 06:30 PM	#8
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	Yeah i started this poll because everyone just kept saying that the comic/movie version was so much better, but i just don't see them voting? I only asked the question because i wanted a majority opinion and so far the majority seems to agree with me. I know there most be more than 1 person who disagrees with me so please start voting. I won't arque you over it I just want to know what everyone thinks.

12-08-2002, 06:30 PM	#9
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	The cartoon one was the best, and yeah i hated the whole rat ninja thing as Nick said it was just plain silly.

12-08-2002, 06:34 PM	#10
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	The Archie/cartoon story is ok but the Mirage/movie one is way better __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

12-08-2002, 06:39 PM	#12
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Comic may have more depth, but givin the physics of the 2 realities only the cartoon could happen. Rats simply don't have the mental capabilities to retain that much knowledge of martial arts

12-08-2002, 06:44 PM	#13
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	When I asked this Question people liked th mirage/movie I don't know what happened __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

12-08-2002, 06:55 PM	#14
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,802	Maybe not many comic fans seen this one yet __________________

12-08-2002, 07:00 PM	#15
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	yeah thats it __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

12-08-2002, 07:31 PM	#17
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Kali if you read my first post I think I said rats were smarter than human give them credit for. Yeah they'te smart they can memorise areas and patterns, understand images and scents. But to a degree the rats intelligence is also based in instinct. It understands inviroments so it can escape if hunted, being in a cage owned by humans his need to know how to survive will decrease. A rat will mimic a person but not graps many aspects of what its doing, nor can it mimic certain moves due to its anatomy. The degree of skill the Normal Rat Splinter would need for for the comic origin to be true simply can't exist dfue to the rats renintin capabilities. The instincs to survive would over ride the knowledge he learned reverting more to a primal nature making him forget most of it.

12-08-2002, 07:35 PM	#18
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,802	I wouldn't think so deep about it, after all, it might've been kinda ridiculous, but it was aimed to be a parody (the first issue anyways) so the more ridiculous the funnier. Of course, the tmnt popularity grew and the comic got serious...but still... __________________

12-08-2002, 07:42 PM	#19
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Sorry but I've been really into animals most of my life and know a lot of little details, that have no real importance

12-08-2002, 07:43 PM	#20
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I'm siding with the cartoon version on this one. It just made better sense. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988