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"If one cannot pay, one should not play... Suckers!" 17 47.22%
"The tech gear I see in my dreams?" 6 16.67%
Least they made Leo walk home on his own... jerk.... 7 19.44%
Awww.... Nice Casey Development! 6 16.67%
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:00 PM   #1
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New Ep Discussion: "Dragon's Rising"

Greetings all!

Well well... since the official site doesnt have a teaser up yet, looks like I'm going to have to be creative again. Yeah, I hear the "Oh great's" from some of you out there. Sheesh, rough crowd..

Dragon's Rising... we had Dragon's Brew earlier this season. Perhaps there's a connection? Maybe, maybe not. As some of us saw the preview for tomorrow's ep, we were not given much to work with, other than Leo's behavior.

It seems Leo's getting a bit more.. I dunno... agressive with his practices? I mean, we see him hanging someone from a gargoyle trying to get some answers. If that doesn't suggest something like "The Dark Knight"...

Something about Leo is going to be addressed. Perhaps he lets his anger get to him and goes out to find some information from the local Purple Dragons? Stirs the beehive, so to speak? Let us not forget the issue with the slime that sloshed down into the sewers, as well as the sample that Donatello obtained. Could this be part of the lead-in to one of the local theories of Leo's current behavior resulting in a family member getting hurt?

Or, this 'dragon' could be more a description of the Purple Dragon's position in the city's crime-system. Maybe they're going to rise to stronger powers, now that Hun's not attending to Shredder's itineraries?

Ooooor... this could be something about Karai and the Foot coming back into power. There's so many possibilities of what this 'dragon' could be. I'm just waiting for "Dragon's Strike", and all hell breaking loose.


WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN CONCERNING LEO AND HIS BEHAVIOR?!
WHY IS THAT ALWAYS THE QUESTION OF THE WEEK?!
WHO HERE LOVES MACHI'S TEASERS?! yeah I know, I'm running out of questions.. But you Always know what to do..!


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Old 11-19-2005, 08:54 AM   #2
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Angry Why do we only have two tvs in this entire building?!

*mutters curses about people who HAVE to watch "Meet the Fockers" for the tenth time in a row*

Since I can't see the ep, the thread's open, and I Need to have some quotes posted for the poll...
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:08 AM   #3
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It was good, but really nothing exceptional. It was neither funny nor did it move the plot that much (I mean we already knew what the Dragons were up to from Dragon's Brew). But I definitely liked seeing Casey's dad and more of casey's past. Much more of a character development episode for Casey then anything else. Leo's explosion at the end... I really thought Casey was just going to punch him in the face or something. I guess what he said is true after all...

Wait when I said it wasn't that funny. That's except for Splinter's lines at the beggining when they were playing Poker. It's funny because he called Casey and Raph "Suckers..."

But after everything the preview for next week looks promising. I love Nobody and I'm glad he's making a comeback appearance. Can't wait!
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:17 AM   #4
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:30 AM   #5
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I thought it was okay. Leo screaming at the end freaked me out.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:37 AM   #6
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hmmm someone avatar looks familar........

Anyways, I loved tonight's ep, Casey was just cool & I loved how he honored his father. Leo is getting very...... agressive and that was a "Batman" Student! LOL I guess he watchs Batman alot

Well the episode got a perfect 10 in my opinion, but Leo needs to cool it.I don't think the turtles could of fully won the battle cause they had no idea what they where really up against. They did their best, Leo needs a slap by Splinter.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:41 AM   #7
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Not such a bad eppy, methinks. The opening scene was just great. I always figured Master Splinter would be a card shark. He even has the visor! XD That was just awesome.

It was nice to finally see a Casey oriented episode. I was telling one of my roomie's yesterday that there's really not a lot of Casey time. And now we got to see his whole backstory. His daddeh kinda looked like Elvis. XD Yet the way his mom was dressed in that flashback...I'm pretty sure Casey wasn't raised in the 1950's. O_o

And yay for Casey thinking to bring a parachute! I wonder if he always carries it with him? Hmm...Seems he's afraid of heights. Poor guy. I can relate.

And man, Leo's freakout in the end. I was all... O_O I prob'ly would've left him behind too. There's some misplaced agreesion there, taking it out on his bros, though I'm guilty of going off on my sibs too. That boy needs a psychaitrist. o.o; He's still totally my fave turtle, but man, this eppy FINALLY has me freaking a little bit. Maybe next week Nobody will pummel some sense into him.

I LOVED that line in the preview.

Raph: Who was that?
Mikey: Nobody.

This is going to be a running gag...I see it coming and I can't wait. XD
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:46 AM   #8
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The flash back with Casey's dad was cool...That was my favorite part of this episode. The rest was like others said, Ok, but not to much in the way of plot development...save Leo chewing the boys out in the end and just walking off in a huff...
As for quotes:

Splinter: (playing Poker w/ Casey and Raph) If one cannot afford to pay, one should not play. Suckers!

Mikey: Sorry Klunk, he's Mr. Personality these days. *meow* Yeah, I'm kinda tired of it myself.

Casey: Please Pops, don't go!
Arnold Sr: I gotta, kiddo. I put everything we had into that store, I can't let 'um get away with this. I'm going to the police.
Casey: But they said no cops. They said if you...
Arnold Sr: Casey, sometimes you've gotta stand up for what's right, even if the odds are against ya, even if you're all alone, you've gotta just stand up and do the right thing.

Raph: Grrr....Now what!?
Leo: We didn't finish the job. We blew it, again! We blew it!
Don: We did the best we could. At least we stopped half the convoy.
Leo: Half, we stopped half! And only because we got lucky. Is that good enough for you!? Is it!? We're always one step behind. We act like a bunch of amatures! How many times are we gonna be beaten before you guys wise up and realize this isn't a game!?
(walks off in a huff)
Raph: I hate to admit it, but he ain't wrong.

Casey: Hey Pops, I brought ya somethin'. (places fregment of dragon from Hun's shirt at the base of his head stone) You spoke true, Pop. No matter what, you gotta stand up and do the right thing. But I guess I'm lucky. Even when the odds are against me, I ain't alone. I got friends, good friends.
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:50 AM   #9
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Splinter's visor killed me.

Overall, it was a pretty good episode... nice to see Purple Dragons rather than aliens for a change. I like the street battles the best...on Earth and stuff. Yup.

Leo's freakout at the end was... I'm not too sure what I think. I guess it's good to see him have a nice rant rather than just stand there and grr without answering any questions. Maybe he's getting closer to getting over it if he can talk about it? Dunno... but I did like everyone's annoyance afterwards. Take him to Splinter for a good talk; that's what I say!

Nice background story for Casey too. I guessed early on that his dad didn't make it, but it filled out some of his history. Only thing I was wondering is how he kicked Hun's butt so easily on the truck when he was flinging Turtles left and right. Plot device, Mr. Frodo...
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:51 AM   #10
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And man, Leo's freakout in the end. I was all... O_O I prob'ly would've left him behind too. There's some misplaced agreesion there, taking it out on his bros, though I'm guilty of going off on my sibs too. That boy needs a psychaitrist. o.o; He's still totally my fave turtle, but man, this eppy FINALLY has me freaking a little bit. Maybe next week Nobody will pummel some sense into him
This is going to be a running gag...I see it coming and I can't wait. XD
I'll do it I'll just get in his face and say a few things.....maybe he needs some lovin
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Splinter: (playing Poker w/ Casey and Raph) If one cannot afford to pay, one should not play. Suckers!


Raph: Grrr....Now what!?
Leo: We didn't finish the job. We blew it, again! We blew it!
Don: We did the best we could. At least we stopped half the convoy.
Leo: Half, we stopped half! And only because we got lucky. Is that good enough for you!? Is it!? We're always one step behind. We act like a bunch of amatures! How many times are we gonna be beaten before you guys wise up and realize this isn't a game!?
(walks off in a huff)
Raph: I hate to admit it, but he ain't wrong.
Me: YOu know in some countries like Mexico they eat turtle.......
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:00 AM   #12
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hmmm someone avatar looks familar........

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Yep, I be a Mikey fan too! Wa-hey!

Anywho, the little bit in the lair at the beginning was nice. Especially when Don was talking to April.
"You know that new tech you were practicially drooling over?"
"You mean the ones I dream about in my sleep?" Donnie's cute.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:16 AM   #13
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The Episode Was Alright, It Had Its Little Moments. This Episode Is Very Important For Hun Who Has Grown Immensely. I Love That He's A Genius Mastermind Now Rather Then A 2nd Level Goon. Look How Sophisticated The Purple Dragons Have Gotten.

Since I'm A Big Poker Player I Really Enjoyed The Opening Scene. I Swear Sometimes Splinter Is The Funniest Character Of The Show. I Love Him.

The Glimpse Into Casey's Past Was Cool. But It Really Sucked And Was Very Predictable That He Would Not End Hun Off At The End. I Mean Just Because Casey Knocks Him It Doesn't Mean He Would Hill Hun.

Ok, So Whats Up With Hun's Left Shoulder? Did Leo Stab Him Or Did He Just Dislocate It? Thats Scene Was Unclear To Me.

Again The Animation In This Episode Was Not Up To Par With Some Of The Classics.

And Then We Have Leo. You Ever Stood Around While Someone Was Getting Yelled At? You Felt Like Hiding In Your Skin And For Some Reason You Were Embarrassed. Well Thats How I Felt When Leo Screamed On Them. To Me Raphs Line Was Crazy In A Good Way: "i Hate To Admit It, But He Ain't Wrong"- Mikey Nods To This. Whoa, Should We Expect A Change In The Turtles? Is Leo Finally Getting Through To Them? Interesting Isn't It?
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Man, Splinter gambling in the beginning really cracked me up. I didn't think he was the kind of guy to gamble.

Good overall episode, but what's up with the confusing previews we've been getting? Can anyone figure out what next weeks about!?!?
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:35 AM   #15
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Leo's right...They almost got shellacked (pun intended) by all the major villians, Bishop's whopped up on um, Shredder, Hun, even indirectly Karai. Leo's fed up with loseing, that doen't make him more swayable to the "dark side" it makes him more focused on shuting them down.
EDIT: About Next week's preview...It's a Nobody episode....
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Old 11-19-2005, 01:17 PM   #17
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Again, and again, I say: Snap out of it, Leo!!

Somebody needed to bap him for saying that. It's not a game, and his brothers know it's not a game, but they're doing all they can! You know, very little ticks me off, but attitudes like that come as close as anything. This is driving me completely nuts. Actually, I'm forseeing a pilgrimage for Leo sometime during the season; the season previews hinted at it. I think he's going to go off on his own for a while, and try to learn his balance before coming back. I just hope it's before he comes into contact with Karai again. And before he tears his brothers to shreds, emotionally, or by getting them into trouble.

And Raph's "he ain't wrong" comment... uhm, yes he is! He's after perfection like never before, and it can't happen. It's not possible, and he's beating himself up for it, and now his brothers, too.

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I guess it's good to see him have a nice rant rather than just stand there and grr without answering any questions.
It's probably better for him...worse for everyone else though.

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I Mean Just Because Casey Knocks Him It Doesn't Mean He Would Hill Hun.
There was a good chance that Hun would get run over by his own convoy if he fell. Not a pretty picture. I don't fault Casey for helping him.

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Ok, So Whats Up With Hun's Left Shoulder? Did Leo Stab Him Or Did He Just Dislocate It? Thats Scene Was Unclear To Me.
It wasn't obvious. The sword didn't actually touch Hun, so I'm guessing it wasn't a stab.

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You Felt Like Hiding In Your Skin And For Some Reason You Were Embarrassed.
Embarassed for him, maybe. "Don't mind him, he's been under a lot of stress lately..."

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Man, Splinter gambling in the beginning really cracked me up. I didn't think he was the kind of guy to gamble.
An exchange from Mulan 2:
"I didn't know you gambled."
"Betting against my mother is not gambling. It's an investment!" Same goes for a sensei's students and friends.

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Good overall episode, but what's up with the confusing previews we've been getting? Can anyone figure out what next weeks about!?!?
I guess they don't want to give anything away (to the point where the preview is completely irrelevant :p). It's called "Still Nobody", and Ruffington showed up briefly in this ep, so we're up for a rematch, I think.

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PULL UPS.....
LOL! Now that would be a boring episode...

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Leo's right...They almost got shellacked (pun intended) by all the major villians, Bishop's whopped up on um, Shredder, Hun, even indirectly Karai. Leo's fed up with loseing, that doen't make him more swayable to the "dark side" it makes him more focused on shuting them down.
But he's going about it the wrong way. Hun's been upgrading, Bishop's been more active, Karai's been going off the deep end, so of course there's gonna be more conflict... it's not because the Turtles have gone soft, it's more because the enemies have gotten harder. The Foot usually only messed with the Turtles when they got in their way (which was frequently), but Karai's got the Foot single-mindedly focused on the Turtles now (Snap out of it, Karai! Had to say it, sorry..). The Dragons have been pulling more heists, so they're coming into contact with the Turtles more. Bishop's been more active, so ditto for him. If the Turtles are losing out more, now, it's because they can't rely on physical confrontation alone, anymore. They need to change their tactics, but Leo's stubbornly clinging to what's always worked, and it just won't anymore. He's gonna kill himself and his brothers if he keeps trying to battle it out with all their enemies.
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:01 PM   #18
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this was a decent episode any turtles is good turtles to me anymore sadly since fox likes to play stupid damn sports instead of its best show!
well let's see it's nice to finally get caseys dads back story that we got way back like 2 years ago in the dw comics....
I loved the opening as well this splinter is very much like the ones in the movies...he just happens to kick some major butt!
I got sad though with the casey parts to....yes I'm a big softy wanna make sumpin of it! hehe
umm yea man I was chearing casey on maybe I'm evil but man did I want him to kill hun.....to me huns really off or on....and well he totally off on this episode...he was on in dragons brew....I honestly missed bishop..and baxter..or even KaRAI for that matter we havn't seen much of the girl at all shesh!
but back to the subject at hand....what where the purple dragons taking anyways again? they just seem to be stealing things but whats the point really money?
and wow lets touch on leo for a moment I know some of you ladys would love to heheh anyways yea what a bone head I think maybe hes been watchin to much batman! but him doing that to that thug did remind me allot of the old comics so it was a nice touch.....but ummm him freaking out at the end totally reminds me of my spazo roomie ugh leo's outta hand seriously I'm suprised the guys havn't asked him if hes on drugs lol...
he's gonna get it next week I have a fealing about it.....it's awsome to finally get to see nobody next btw cause I missed the first time he was on the show......I'd also like to see more of april...she was training....and now what she's back to store owner again I guess...*shruggs*
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Old 11-19-2005, 04:05 PM   #19
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Finally, finally a good Casey episode.

I also liked Leo's lecture at the end. I feel the same way, really
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Great episode! Who knew Splinter knew how to play poker. He should compete on Bravo's "Ultimate Poker." I can't believe Casey didn't let Hun die. I thought for sure he was going to let him fall (I would have )but he did the honorable thing. Way da go Casey dude!! Leo blowing up at the end.... ! I guess I'd be fed up too if the bad guys kept getting away. If Leo had been in Casey's spot, he'd totally would have let Hun die, no question. According to Mr. Laird in the answer to a letter, he said Leo's going to be the angsty practically the whole season. Get use to it people!

Yeah! Nobody's coming back! Looks like the guys are taking training more serious than ever. I guess they agree with Leo that it ain't fun and games anymore! Watch out Foot Clan! Watch out Purple Dragons! No more mercy.
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