How old is Splinter?

*Sage Ninja* · 12-04-2005, 11:06 PM

I was wondering just how old (people years) Splinter is. I mean right now he looks pretty old and decript but he seems to be very viril and just as active as his sons. At first I thought he was really old because his fur is grey/silver but in the flash back episodes when the turtles where little kids and he was considerably younger his fur was also grey/silver and he looks exactly the same as he currently does, so maybe the grey fur isn't a sign of ageing but its natural coloring, which could indicate that he is still reasonably young. My guess is that Spinter is about in his 50's in human years which isn't that old.

Although when Slinter was just a rat before he was mutated his fur was more of a tawny color other than grey , so maybe being mutated had an effect on his fur coloring.

*XERO* · 12-04-2005, 11:17 PM

How old is Michael Jackson's nose?

You have your answer.

(I guessing between 50-60.)

**Jester** · 12-04-2005, 11:30 PM

*shrugs* I'd say mid to late 40's

*Sage Ninja* · 12-04-2005, 11:36 PM

I'm just saying that every makes Splinter out to be this ancient border line senile rat that is well in his dotage.

I mean I think that in all the version of Splinter I've seen.

Live Action Movies

Classic Toon

New Toon

New Toon Splinter appears to be represented as the youngest and active and Viril of the Splinters, who has no problem kicking ass and taking names.

The other vesions (classic toon, LAM) portray him as being rather weak and frail, although when the situation calls for it can kick ass as well. But tghese version seem to show him as very old.

*Masked Ninja* · 12-05-2005, 12:02 AM

My guess is the equivalent of late 40s, early 50s. Young enough to still kick butt, but old enough that he's starting to slow down and feel his age.

*iris* · 12-05-2005, 10:18 AM

Real rats have short life spans compared to humans. They reach puberty around six weeks, maturity around six months, and senescence probably around 1.5-2 years. Pet rats may live up to 3 years (4 is pushing it), but wild rats don't live even half that long.

If the guys are 17 years old in human years, then Splinter is over 500 years old in rat years. That's pretty gee-darn old! 1 human year equals roughly 30 rat years. However, in actual solar years, he can't be more than 2.5 years older than the turtles.

Let's pretend Splinter was 1.5 years old when he mutated. We'll pretend that's long enough for him to have gained maturity and picked up all his killer ninjutsu skillz, plus allow for Yoshi moving from Japan to NYC. In that case, Splinter was the equivalent of 45 (rat) years old when he mutated. If he had continued to age like a rat, he would probably have died about a year and a half later, but he apparently adopted a more human aging rate.

Assuming the guys are 17, this scenario (1.5 years old at mutation) puts him at a minimum of 62 human-equivalent years old. My guess is he is still aging faster than a human would, so it may be more like 70-80 in this scenario. He can still kick butt, but the guy is no Spring pup any way you figure it.

In my experience, when animals show greying due to age, it's usually only noticable in the whisker areas, and maybe at tiny bit on the eyebrows, tail, or undersides. I have really only witnessed this on dogs, cats, horses, goats, and cows, and have no idea if the same may apply to rats. Even if it does, I don't think the writers/artists on this would know.

Turtle Dove · 12-05-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by iris

Real rats have short life spans compared to humans. They reach puberty around six weeks, maturity around six months, and senescence probably around 1.5-2 years. Pet rats may live up to 3 years (4 is pushing it), but wild rats don't live even half that long.

If the guys are 17 years old in human years, then Splinter is over 500 years old in rat years. That's pretty gee-darn old! 1 human year equals roughly 30 rat years. However, in actual solar years, he can't be more than 2.5 years older than the turtles.

Let's pretend Splinter was 1.5 years old when he mutated. We'll pretend that's long enough for him to have gained maturity and picked up all his killer ninjutsu skillz, plus allow for Yoshi moving from Japan to NYC. In that case, Splinter was the equivalent of 45 (rat) years old when he mutated. If he had continued to age like a rat, he would probably have died about a year and a half later, but he apparently adopted a more human aging rate.

Assuming the guys are 17, this scenario (1.5 years old at mutation) puts him at a minimum of 62 human-equivalent years old. My guess is he is still aging faster than a human would, so it may be more like 70-80 in this scenario. He can still kick butt, but the guy is no Spring pup any way you figure it.

In my experience, when animals show greying due to age, it's usually only noticable in the whisker areas, and maybe at tiny bit on the eyebrows, tail, or undersides. I have really only witnessed this on dogs, cats, horses, goats, and cows, and have no idea if the same may apply to rats. Even if it does, I don't think the writers/artists on this would know.

wow-The TURTLES are 17 already?? Dang it- I'm 24.. 1 more year to wait till they are legal

Well the mutated goo makes them more human-so I suppose they will live the lifespan of a human.

*iris* · 12-05-2005, 11:09 AM

Well, there was my tricksy use of the word "IF".

Depending on which series you mean, the turtles can be anywhere between 15 and 50 (?). But I think in the current show they're now 17. *shrug* Make them any age you want. LOL

*Sewer Bull* · 12-05-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

New Toon Splinter appears to be represented as the youngest and active and Viril of the Splinters, who has no problem kicking ass and taking names.

I'd say Archie Splinter looks even younger:

(The Animus War, part one)

Just look at him - he hasn't even hit 40 yet!

Yeah, "Elvis lives" - rock on, sensei.

~~BartAllen~~ · 12-05-2005, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Turtle Dove

wow-The TURTLES are 17 already?? Dang it- I'm 24.. 1 more year to wait till they are legal

Well the mutated goo makes them more human-so I suppose they will live the lifespan of a human.

they're in the 30s in the mirage comics.

*iris* · 12-05-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

I'd say Archie Splinter looks even younger:

(The Animus War, part one)

Just look at him - he hasn't even hit 40 yet!

Yeah, "Elvis lives" - rock on, sensei.

Ah yes, I'd forgotten about the Archies. Because they frighten me a little.

Well, if Splinter was 6 months old when he mutated... ...aw ta heck with it. He's just a magical rat, 'kay?

Turtle Dove · 12-05-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BartAllen

they're in the 30s in the mirage comics.

I know that..*Drools* they are legal in the comics

Ra · 12-05-2005, 05:36 PM

I'd say that he's about mid 50's, possibly 55. If he can take Shredder on by himself (as he has done on at least one occation), he must have some life in him yet *waves about a flag with Splinter's name and face on it*

*Sage Ninja* · 12-06-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iris

Ah yes, I'd forgotten about the Archies. Because they frighten me a little.

Well, if Splinter was 6 months old when he mutated... ...aw ta heck with it. He's just a magical rat, 'kay?

Oh my freaken' word!?!?! Thats Splinter

He do4esn't look anything like classic toon Splinter, he looks like some reject from a Mickey Mouse Disney movie, Holy Crap!!!

I still think that Splinter in the new toon seems to be the youngest (or is the least frail and weak) of his incarnations. In this version Splinter seems to only walk with a cane because he got hurt at the Battle Nexus place. So if that injury never occured he would probably wouldn't even need a cane to help him walk with, so its not because of old age that he uses a cane, unlike in the old toon or live action movies where it appears its because of old age.

*XERO* · 12-06-2005, 09:39 PM

He uses a cane because he's a P-I-M-P.

*Masked Ninja* · 12-06-2005, 10:14 PM

Man, that put all sorts of images in mind that don't belong there

*iris* · 12-07-2005, 12:59 AM

Come to think of it, "Master Splinter" makes a great pimp name.

Ra · 12-07-2005, 04:46 AM

*eye twiches* Sickening....imagies...so...wrong.... *falls to the ground twiching*

Serp · 12-07-2005, 06:07 AM

I think Splinter may be in his fifties early sixties at most. I guess the TGRI mutagen caused him to age as a human.

I think Older Toon Splinter is the youngest because Hamoto Yoshi Human looked to be in his eairly thirties. The turtles are mutated fifteen years later would put him in his mid forties. unless the his rat side caused him to age faster.

Movie Splinter look really old like late Seventies eairly eighties.

lol at the Master Splinter pimp line.

*iris* · 12-07-2005, 07:24 AM

I thought Old Toon Splinter definitely acted older than that. I wonder if turning into a rat could have sped up his aging. Man, sucks for you, Yoshi.

12-04-2005, 11:06 PM	#1
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,924	How old is Splinter? I was wondering just how old (people years) Splinter is. I mean right now he looks pretty old and decript but he seems to be very viril and just as active as his sons. At first I thought he was really old because his fur is grey/silver but in the flash back episodes when the turtles where little kids and he was considerably younger his fur was also grey/silver and he looks exactly the same as he currently does, so maybe the grey fur isn't a sign of ageing but its natural coloring, which could indicate that he is still reasonably young. My guess is that Spinter is about in his 50's in human years which isn't that old. Although when Slinter was just a rat before he was mutated his fur was more of a tawny color other than grey , so maybe being mutated had an effect on his fur coloring. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

12-04-2005, 11:17 PM	#2
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,179	How old is Michael Jackson's nose? You have your answer. (I guessing between 50-60.) __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

12-04-2005, 11:30 PM	#3
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	shrugs I'd say mid to late 40's __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

12-04-2005, 11:36 PM	#4
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,924	I'm just saying that every makes Splinter out to be this ancient border line senile rat that is well in his dotage. I mean I think that in all the version of Splinter I've seen. Live Action Movies Classic Toon New Toon New Toon Splinter appears to be represented as the youngest and active and Viril of the Splinters, who has no problem kicking ass and taking names. The other vesions (classic toon, LAM) portray him as being rather weak and frail, although when the situation calls for it can kick ass as well. But tghese version seem to show him as very old. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

12-05-2005, 10:18 AM	#6
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	Real rats have short life spans compared to humans. They reach puberty around six weeks, maturity around six months, and senescence probably around 1.5-2 years. Pet rats may live up to 3 years (4 is pushing it), but wild rats don't live even half that long. If the guys are 17 years old in human years, then Splinter is over 500 years old in rat years. That's pretty gee-darn old! 1 human year equals roughly 30 rat years. However, in actual solar years, he can't be more than 2.5 years older than the turtles. Let's pretend Splinter was 1.5 years old when he mutated. We'll pretend that's long enough for him to have gained maturity and picked up all his killer ninjutsu skillz, plus allow for Yoshi moving from Japan to NYC. In that case, Splinter was the equivalent of 45 (rat) years old when he mutated. If he had continued to age like a rat, he would probably have died about a year and a half later, but he apparently adopted a more human aging rate. Assuming the guys are 17, this scenario (1.5 years old at mutation) puts him at a minimum of 62 human-equivalent years old. My guess is he is still aging faster than a human would, so it may be more like 70-80 in this scenario. He can still kick butt, but the guy is no Spring pup any way you figure it. In my experience, when animals show greying due to age, it's usually only noticable in the whisker areas, and maybe at tiny bit on the eyebrows, tail, or undersides. I have really only witnessed this on dogs, cats, horses, goats, and cows, and have no idea if the same may apply to rats. Even if it does, I don't think the writers/artists on this would know. __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ] Last edited by iris; 12-05-2005 at 10:27 AM. Reason: math

12-05-2005, 12:02 AM	#5
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	My guess is the equivalent of late 40s, early 50s. Young enough to still kick butt, but old enough that he's starting to slow down and feel his age.

12-05-2005, 11:09 AM	#8
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	Well, there was my tricksy use of the word "IF". Depending on which series you mean, the turtles can be anywhere between 15 and 50 (?). But I think in the current show they're now 17. shrug Make them any age you want. LOL __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ] Last edited by iris; 12-05-2005 at 11:34 AM.

12-05-2005, 05:36 PM	#13
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	I'd say that he's about mid 50's, possibly 55. If he can take Shredder on by himself (as he has done on at least one occation), he must have some life in him yet waves about a flag with Splinter's name and face on it __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

12-06-2005, 09:39 PM	#15
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,179	He uses a cane because he's a P-I-M-P. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

12-06-2005, 10:14 PM	#16
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	Man, that put all sorts of images in mind that don't belong there

12-07-2005, 12:59 AM	#17
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	Come to think of it, "Master Splinter" makes a great pimp name. __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ]

12-07-2005, 04:46 AM	#18
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	eye twiches Sickening....imagies...so...wrong.... falls to the ground twiching __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

12-07-2005, 06:07 AM	#19
Serp Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 362	I think Splinter may be in his fifties early sixties at most. I guess the TGRI mutagen caused him to age as a human. I think Older Toon Splinter is the youngest because Hamoto Yoshi Human looked to be in his eairly thirties. The turtles are mutated fifteen years later would put him in his mid forties. unless the his rat side caused him to age faster. Movie Splinter look really old like late Seventies eairly eighties. lol at the Master Splinter pimp line.

12-07-2005, 07:24 AM	#20
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	I thought Old Toon Splinter definitely acted older than that. I wonder if turning into a rat could have sped up his aging. Man, sucks for you, Yoshi. __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ]