4Kids Do It Again

*ZariusTwo* · 02-12-2006, 12:44 AM

Well, suffice to say I'm not a huge fan of Sonic X, but its' third season turned things around tremendously, adding darker content and tone to the series, with death, sacrifice, and Chris getting hammered...a lot, but 4Kids, having now dubbed this season for their audience, the same 4Kids who permit the grevious bodily harm of three future Turtles in "SAINW" pull off this.

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**Barkworm** · 02-12-2006, 01:06 AM

Well, those are the same people who completely raped "One Piece" so it's not really a surprise.

*Dr. Doom* · 02-12-2006, 01:17 PM

I have a feeling I'd like One Peice if I were watching the original version. Sanji(sp) especially is really cool, but I can't stand his dubbed voice.

**GK Punk** · 02-12-2006, 08:53 PM

Sanji is one of my favorite characters in the original version. The original is so great, it makes me sad to see what 4Kids did to it

4Kids even censors Winx Club of all things.

**Barkworm** · 02-13-2006, 01:24 AM

The One Piece manga is the best manga ever (IMO

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**ThirdMarioBro** · 02-13-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Well, suffice to say I'm not a huge fan of Sonic X, but its' third season turned things around tremendously, adding darker content and tone to the series, with death, sacrifice, and Chris getting hammered...a lot, but 4Kids, having now dubbed this season for their audience, the same 4Kids who permit the grevious bodily harm of three future Turtles in "SAINW" pull off this.

Spoiler:

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I wouldn't know since 4Kids completely drove me away from Saturday Morning as a whole for stuff like this. Completely unsuprising though. I hate those mother fu*kers.

*Drtooth* · 02-17-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

Well, those are the same people who completely raped "One Piece" so it's not really a surprise.

It's not so much the raping that p's me o... it's the fact they couldn't even finish the damn rest of the shows on 4Kids before it moved to Toonami, on cable, when I can't watch it. All for extra friggin' Winx Club episodes. Dub One Piece to hell, it's still one of the best shows sadly on saturday morning. Eff Winx.

AS for Sonic X, it just... well it doesn't do anything for me anymore. This Transformers style subplot just ruined the show for me. And while I do like Mike Pollack's Eggman and that maid, I don't really care.

I do say, I DO like 4Kid's voice dubbing, though (not the content screwing and editing). I gotta admit, the dubs aren't as wooden as half the dubs I ever hear. Plus, I think their voice work on the new TMNT is excellent.

I'm just pissed Shonen Jump and Toei couldn't have released One Piece uncut on DVD, since the majority of One Piece fans are over the intended children's TV guideline age.

Plus, I can't really balime 4 Kids for not letting anyone die in a cartoon show... that's basically a Standards and practices type thing. We can't let kids know about death, for some reason. it's all because of those anus Action for Children's Television types and neglegent parents who don't want to discuss subject matter with Kids, and then bitch about TV doing it for them. And of course, the childless old krone women who watch TV just to see how offended they can get and ruin any realism or relatability to any TV program.

**GK Punk** · 02-17-2006, 11:46 PM

Actually, they didn't replace One Piece with Winx Club to be mean they did it because One Piece was failing on 4Kids TV and getting bad ratings. Same with Mew Mew Power.

Fact is, Winx Club is just doing better sales and ratings wise.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-18-2006, 12:15 AM

Still, despite some of thier misses, I still watch a great deal of their better efforts, like Pokemon Advance and the much missed Shaman King dub.

Look around you, look beyond,
You can make an unbreakable bond,
The world around you is not what it seems,
It's all revealed beyond your wildest dreams!

So many things I never could see,
So many choices falling on me,
Could it be my destiny to be shaman king?

Shaman king
To be shaman king
Shaman king
If your spirit is strong,
You could be the one

(Instrumental)

I could look at the world in a different light,
And I know what it takes to make it right!
And I won't give up the fight, to be Shaman King!

Shaman King!

IceFlash78 · 02-18-2006, 11:17 PM

Agreed. I really liked Shaman King, from what I saw. Unfortunately, I missed much of the first season, and like the last 5 episodes of the second season. I thought the concept/story was pretty interesting. I'll have to see if I can find it subbed online.

I used to watch TMNT and Shaman King, and occasionally, Sonic X.

A while ago, I remember they used to air Escaflowne (that was horribly butchered, but i liked it enough to buy the actual set, and was amazed at the differences), Digimon, and Spiderman.

Oh yeah... and Monster Rancher. I never saw what happened at the end of the season.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-19-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by IceFlash78

Agreed. I really liked Shaman King, from what I saw. Unfortunately, I missed much of the first season, and like the last 5 episodes of the second season. I thought the concept/story was pretty interesting. I'll have to see if I can find it subbed online.

I used to watch TMNT and Shaman King, and occasionally, Sonic X.

A while ago, I remember they used to air Escaflowne (that was horribly butchered, but i liked it enough to buy the actual set, and was amazed at the differences), Digimon, and Spiderman.

Oh yeah... and Monster Rancher. I never saw what happened at the end of the season.

The UK got the third, and Canada got a fourth somehow. Go figure.

Oh, new edit for this weeks' episode, Rouge. Bath scene.

*Drtooth* · 03-11-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittie february6

Fact is, Winx Club is just doing better sales and ratings wise.

Hate to bring up an old thread, but riddle me this? How come the only times I've seen Winx Crap mercahandise in stores, it's always marked down several times for clearance... AND it never even sells then? Winx was given a cushy time slot, and one piece had the horrible 11:30 slot.

**GK Punk** · 03-11-2006, 08:09 PM

Um dude. I hate to tell you this, but Winx Club is one of the best selling dolls in the US, and even more so in Europe. Winx outsells Barbie's. The last stats I heard was that Winx was number 2 only to Bratz.

Winx only goes on clearence when they are about to release a new line of Dolls. 1st edition dolls went on Clearence after Pixie Magic dolls were being released, Pixie Magic went on Clearence after Charmix and Spring Shopping dolls were released.

Argue all you want, but the facts are the facts.

02-12-2006, 12:44 AM	#1
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	4Kids Do It Again Well, suffice to say I'm not a huge fan of Sonic X, but its' third season turned things around tremendously, adding darker content and tone to the series, with death, sacrifice, and Chris getting hammered...a lot, but 4Kids, having now dubbed this season for their audience, the same 4Kids who permit the grevious bodily harm of three future Turtles in "SAINW" pull off this. Spoiler: In what intially began as Molly piloting her plane directly into enemy fire and dying in an explosion, the dub explains she escaped and will continue fighting Eggman and the Metarex ... __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

02-12-2006, 01:06 AM	#2
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	Well, those are the same people who completely raped "One Piece" so it's not really a surprise. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-12-2006, 01:17 PM	#3
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I have a feeling I'd like One Peice if I were watching the original version. Sanji(sp) especially is really cool, but I can't stand his dubbed voice. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

02-13-2006, 01:24 AM	#5
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	The One Piece manga is the best manga ever (IMO ). __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-18-2006, 12:15 AM	#9
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Still, despite some of thier misses, I still watch a great deal of their better efforts, like Pokemon Advance and the much missed Shaman King dub. Look around you, look beyond, You can make an unbreakable bond, The world around you is not what it seems, It's all revealed beyond your wildest dreams! So many things I never could see, So many choices falling on me, Could it be my destiny to be shaman king? Shaman king To be shaman king Shaman king If your spirit is strong, You could be the one (Instrumental) I could look at the world in a different light, And I know what it takes to make it right! And I won't give up the fight, to be Shaman King! Shaman King! __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

02-12-2006, 08:53 PM	#4
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Sanji is one of my favorite characters in the original version. The original is so great, it makes me sad to see what 4Kids did to it 4Kids even censors Winx Club of all things.

02-17-2006, 11:46 PM	#8
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Actually, they didn't replace One Piece with Winx Club to be mean they did it because One Piece was failing on 4Kids TV and getting bad ratings. Same with Mew Mew Power. Fact is, Winx Club is just doing better sales and ratings wise.

02-18-2006, 11:17 PM	#10
IceFlash78 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	Agreed. I really liked Shaman King, from what I saw. Unfortunately, I missed much of the first season, and like the last 5 episodes of the second season. I thought the concept/story was pretty interesting. I'll have to see if I can find it subbed online. I used to watch TMNT and Shaman King, and occasionally, Sonic X. A while ago, I remember they used to air Escaflowne (that was horribly butchered, but i liked it enough to buy the actual set, and was amazed at the differences), Digimon, and Spiderman. Oh yeah... and Monster Rancher. I never saw what happened at the end of the season.

03-11-2006, 08:09 PM	#13
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Um dude. I hate to tell you this, but Winx Club is one of the best selling dolls in the US, and even more so in Europe. Winx outsells Barbie's. The last stats I heard was that Winx was number 2 only to Bratz. Winx only goes on clearence when they are about to release a new line of Dolls. 1st edition dolls went on Clearence after Pixie Magic dolls were being released, Pixie Magic went on Clearence after Charmix and Spring Shopping dolls were released. Argue all you want, but the facts are the facts.