Should they bring back Oroku Saki, the Shredder?

~~Toonami Tom~~ · 02-12-2006, 07:57 PM

I think they should find a way to bring Oroku Saki the Shredder back to the show. Maybe as a suprise twist at the season 4 finale episode. Even though it was said "one of these characters will not be seen after Exodus part 2" they could bring him back. Dr. Chapplin was shown, and he hasn't returned so maybe it's him that won't come back and not Saki.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 02-12-2006, 08:06 PM

No, never, Saki should never return. He's gone, deal with it, bringing him back would only ruin things.

TheGreenMagic · 02-12-2006, 08:44 PM

Eh, I think either way the show would survive, nothing ruined by his absence or his return. Myself, though... I'd rather he not come back. He'd only take away the chance for Bishop to come into his own as the chief villain (which I figure at this point is an inevitability).

Still, I can't say I myself want him back, since it would most likely bring back the whole Utrom aspect of the show again, something I'm not to keen on in large doses.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-12-2006, 11:11 PM

no and that's all I'm gonna say about it...I'd rather let the horse rest in peace then to keep hitting it..
-Putrescent

*Masked Ninja* · 02-12-2006, 11:29 PM

Absolutely not. Bringing him back yet again would seem trite and overused.(hrrmmmm...) Besides, I really want it to be proven once and for all that the whole concept of TMNT does NOT depend on Shredder being the villain, as many who were only exposed to the old toon may think.

If they bring him back again, I shall beat my head against my desk and moan, "Why...why?!"

Damnalove2 · 02-12-2006, 11:59 PM

well I think the whole Shredder theme is overused, it's time to get to other villains and for the turtles to grow.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-13-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja

Absolutely not. Bringing him back yet again would seem trite and overused.(hrrmmmm...) Besides, I really want it to be proven once and for all that the whole concept of TMNT does NOT depend on Shredder being the villain, as many who were only exposed to the old toon may think.

You're screwed then, because the Shredder is still being used, albiet with someone else under the helmet

Unfortunatly, mainstream perspective is that the Shredder IS the de facto enemy of the TMNT regardless of comics canon, heck the new cartoon is'nt often that faithful to it anymore

**GK Punk** · 02-13-2006, 12:42 AM

I much prefer Karai being shredder. if there is going to be a shredder in the new series, it should be her and not Saki.

If Karai gets Killed, drops the Shredder gimmick etc, then there should be no Shredder at all.

*Sewer Bull* · 02-13-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kittie february6

If Karai gets Killed, drops the Shredder gimmick etc, then there should be no Shredder at all.

Or Raphael could be one, duh.

02-13-2006, 12:53 AM

I want Karai to be the Shredder for a good long while. It's not only cool that the current "Shredder" is female, but that a female is currently the greatest threat to the TMNT.

But I also eventually want Oroku Saki to regain his position as the Shredder again. He just kicks too much ass to have sitting on the bench forever.

Seriously, Oroku Saki = Best villian ever.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

Or Raphael could be one, duh.

From what I recall in the series, that's the last thing Raph wants. So, no, it's not going to happen. The Image series is dead and obsolete, man. Let it go!

*VaughnMichael* · 02-13-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

I want Karai to be the Shredder for a good long while. It's not only cool that the current "Shredder" is female, but that a female is currently the greatest threat to the TMNT.

But I also eventually want Oroku Saki to regain his position as the Shredder again. He just kicks too much ass to have sitting on the bench forever.

Seriously, Oroku Saki = Best villian ever.

From what I recall in the series, that's the last thing Raph wants. So, no, it's not going to happen. The Image series is dead and obsolete, man. Let it go!

yea but it's ok for the new show to have a female shredder mmmk...

**GK Punk** · 02-13-2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

yea but it's ok for the new show to have a female shredder mmmk...

sexist much?

02-13-2006, 01:05 AM

Why wouldn't it be, Putrescent? She's Saki's daughter. It's only fitting that she continues the legacy of the Shredder.

I could never see any of the TMNT as Shredder. Not even Leo or Raph. It's like Saki being allies with the TMNT and living in the sewers with them. It just doesn't seem right.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-13-2006, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kittie february6

sexist much?

lmao it's funny how you don't even know what in the world I am talking about...just because I date men does not mean in any way I am sexist you don't even know how many wimen I have stuck up for in my life time and I am only 26 and most of my idols are wimen along with female vocalists being my favorite...so back off...
and what I was refering to how almost all of you on the drome bash the image series but as soon as they do something like it in the new toon "wow omg it's so amazing i love it" I'd swear it's just Statler & Waldorf from the muppet show posting on these boards lol...

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Why wouldn't it be, Putrescent? She's Saki's daughter. It's only fitting that she continues the legacy of the Shredder.
I could never see any of the TMNT as Shredder. Not even Leo or Raph. It's like Saki being aleys with the TMNT and living in the sewers with them. It just doesn't seem right.

people bash image comics and you say let it die....but they did the same thing there and Karai was never saki's daughter in the mirage books...I happen to like the idea of Pamiko better and how she was introduced...but hey thats just me and probably only me and no I don't like her outfit lol...
no no no I agree I could never see that either but it was quite awsome to me when the bad guys and good guys would team up just for a minute in the old show to stop an even bader villain

-Putrescent

02-13-2006, 01:11 AM

Sorry, Putrescent. I was just joking about that comment of mine. That's why I put the "

" at the end.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-13-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

Sorry, Putrescent. I was just joking about that comment of mine. That's why I put the "

" at the end.

it's all good sorry if I came off as rude also

some times I think we all take this all to seriously and we forget the love we all share for these storys and characters...and how special that all is...I just love tmnt everything as a whole and to me without everything that happend that whole becomes a hole.
-Putrescent

**GK Punk** · 02-13-2006, 01:19 AM

First off, it's not "Wimen" It's "Women".

Second, how does:

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

lmao it's funny how you don't even know what in the world I am talking about...just because I date men does not mean in any way I am sexist

That mean I think you are sexist? You're right, I know nothing about you I don't know if you are a straight woman or a gay man, and to be honest, I couldn't care less.

When someone makes a comment like "But it's ok for Shredder to be female" With a rolling eye icon after it, how do you expect people to take that? It sounds like you are saying she shouldn't be Shredder simply because she's female.

*Sewer Bull* · 02-13-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

From what I recall in the series, that's the last thing Raph wants. So, no, it's not going to happen. The Image series is dead and obsolete, man. Let it go!

Pity. That's all I can say in that matter.

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

no no no I agree I could never see that either but it was quite awsome to me when the bad guys and good guys would team up just for a minute in the old show to stop an even bader villain

You had your minute in new show as well. TMNT&Shredder vs. Baxter Stockman, "Return to New York (3)", Season 1. It won't happen again!

02-13-2006, 01:31 AM

I guess we all had miscommunications.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-13-2006, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kittie february6

First off, it's not "Wimen" It's "Women".
Second, how does:
That means I think you are sexist? You're right, I know nothing about you I don't know if you are a straight woman or a gay man, and to be honest, I couldn't care less.
When someone makes a comment like "But it's ok for Shredder to be female" With a rolling eye icon after it, how do you expect people to take that? It sounds like you are saying she shouldn't be Shredder simply because she's female.

it's a joke feminist groups show the word women as wimen I was trying to be light hearted.....

& I also happen to prefer that spelling because it seems allot more correct then women does...it's to close to woman...
it means allot I just told you i am...and some times I forget not everyone has a vast tmnt knowledge like I do.

I am quite fine with Karai once again I will say it if you didn't notice it before in mouth foaming anger that she is my favorite character in this new show...I just don't like her as shredder...do you even know who Pameko is and what I'm going on about? because if not I will go into deeper detail about it

btw no matter how rude or ignorant you act I am not going to start a flame war with you..

-Putrescent

View Poll Results: Bring Oroku Saki, the Shredder back to the show?
Yes, bring him back! He was a great villian.	9	25.71%
No, let him continue to chill on that ice cube.	26	74.29%
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02-12-2006, 07:57 PM	#1
~~Toonami Tom~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,939	Should they bring back Oroku Saki, the Shredder? I think they should find a way to bring Oroku Saki the Shredder back to the show. Maybe as a suprise twist at the season 4 finale episode. Even though it was said "one of these characters will not be seen after Exodus part 2" they could bring him back. Dr. Chapplin was shown, and he hasn't returned so maybe it's him that won't come back and not Saki.

02-12-2006, 08:44 PM	#3
TheGreenMagic Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA Posts: 161	Eh, I think either way the show would survive, nothing ruined by his absence or his return. Myself, though... I'd rather he not come back. He'd only take away the chance for Bishop to come into his own as the chief villain (which I figure at this point is an inevitability). Still, I can't say I myself want him back, since it would most likely bring back the whole Utrom aspect of the show again, something I'm not to keen on in large doses. __________________

02-12-2006, 11:59 PM	#6
Damnalove2 Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 16	well I think the whole Shredder theme is overused, it's time to get to other villains and for the turtles to grow. __________________ See my TMNT art on http://damnalove2.deviantart.com Keep it clean, keep it green.

02-12-2006, 08:06 PM	#2
~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Seventh Layer of Hell Posts: 1,929	No, never, Saki should never return. He's gone, deal with it, bringing him back would only ruin things.

02-12-2006, 11:11 PM	#4
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	no and that's all I'm gonna say about it...I'd rather let the horse rest in peace then to keep hitting it.. -Putrescent

02-12-2006, 11:29 PM	#5
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	Absolutely not. Bringing him back yet again would seem trite and overused.(hrrmmmm...) Besides, I really want it to be proven once and for all that the whole concept of TMNT does NOT depend on Shredder being the villain, as many who were only exposed to the old toon may think. If they bring him back again, I shall beat my head against my desk and moan, "Why...why?!"

02-13-2006, 12:42 AM	#8
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I much prefer Karai being shredder. if there is going to be a shredder in the new series, it should be her and not Saki. If Karai gets Killed, drops the Shredder gimmick etc, then there should be no Shredder at all.

02-13-2006, 01:05 AM	#13
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	Why wouldn't it be, Putrescent? She's Saki's daughter. It's only fitting that she continues the legacy of the Shredder. I could never see any of the TMNT as Shredder. Not even Leo or Raph. It's like Saki being allies with the TMNT and living in the sewers with them. It just doesn't seem right.

02-13-2006, 01:11 AM	#15
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	Sorry, Putrescent. I was just joking about that comment of mine. That's why I put the " " at the end.

02-13-2006, 01:31 AM	#19
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	I guess we all had miscommunications.