Shredder in Battle Nexus!

martinitolove · 03-14-2006, 12:28 PM

I love that the show does have not any loose ends; reminds me a lot of the Gargoyles waay back.

Nevertheless I do remember a scene as the TMNT first visited the Battle Nexus World in the Winners Hall - where all the statues of the winners were standing - that one of the turtles (don't remember who it was) seen a statue of Shredder (and there was even that Shredder-sound)...

So, has Shredder once won the championship, too?

Or was it one of the Shredder look-alikes from the scene of "The Prodigal Son" whom the Ancient One meets?

Usagi Yojimbo · 03-14-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by martinitolove

I love that the show does have not any loose ends; reminds me a lot of the Gargoyles waay back.

Nevertheless I do remember a scene as the TMNT first visited the Battle Nexus World in the Winners Hall - where all the statues of the winners were standing - that one of the turtles (don't remember who it was) seen a statue of Shredder (and there was even that Shredder-sound)...

So, has Shredder once won the championship, too?

Or was it one of the Shredder look-alikes from the scene of "The Prodigal Son" whom the Ancient One meets?

I think at one time the shredder won the battle nexus to have a statue in the hall of fame.

onyx · 03-14-2006, 01:06 PM

Can't really imagine the Shredder participating in the Battle Nexus. Since when does he follow rules set by others?

I think the winner must have been someone who looks like the Shredder, but not him. One of the three shadow figures in the end of Tales of Yoshi seems likely.

Stephen · 03-14-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onyx

Can't really imagine the Shredder participating in the Battle Nexus. Since when does he follow rules set by others?

Maybe he was at the Battle Nexus at some point since Ultimate Ninja knew of him and came to earth wanting to battle him, but had to settle for fighting Leo instead.

onyx · 03-14-2006, 02:15 PM

True, I forgot about that... but still, Shredder in the Battle Nexus? Fighting fair under someone else's rules? Fighting with honor?

TheGreenMagic · 03-14-2006, 02:27 PM

There could be a story in it. Granted, I can't for the life of me recall how much time passed between each Nexus Tournament, so this might not hold water, even as a theory.

Shredder pulls a Traximus and heads to the Nexus tournament to try and find worthwhile warriors to bring back to Earth to destroy the Ultroms. Karai goes along, being his apprentice at this point. To keep up appearances with his apprentice (an act Shredder would later drop in Seasons 2 and 3) he keeps up appearances and fights in the tournament as an honorable warrior.

Stephen · 03-14-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by onyx

True, I forgot about that... but still, Shredder in the Battle Nexus? Fighting fair under someone else's rules? Fighting with honor?

He seems to understand the need for honor sometimes. In "Tales Of Yoshi" he recognised the need for honorable combat between Musashi and Yoshi rather than it being Musashi and the foot vs Yoshi. Then again, it could be he just wanted to watch Musashi die for his failure at Utrom base.

He must have atleast some honor, seems Karai seems to have picked up that trait, atleast until recent events anyway.

onyx · 03-14-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen!

Then again, it could be he just wanted to watch Musashi die for his failure at Utrom base.

I saw it that way

We've seen before how the Shredder treats the ones who have failed him.

martinitolove · 03-14-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen!

Maybe he was at the Battle Nexus at some point since Ultimate Ninja knew of him and came to earth wanting to battle him, but had to settle for fighting Leo instead.

Ultimate Ninja knew of Shredder? Cool...

And as Shredder has been aproximately 500 years on Earth, he could have at any point travelled to the Battle Nexus to win the championship.

Who was the turtle that have seen the statue? Mikey?

Has anyone pictures of that statue?

Stephen · 03-14-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by martinitolove

I love that the show does have not any loose ends

There's still a few .... that creature from "Dragon's Brew" hasn't been seen again, neither has the Rat King. Nothing more has been seen from that freaky pigeon at the end of "Outbreak" either.

They also haven't really furthed the relationship between April and Casey much other than a few scenes in "People's Choice"

*VaughnMichael* · 03-14-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen!

There's still a few .... that creature from "Dragon's Brew" hasn't been seen again, neither has the Rat King. Nothing more has been seen from that freaky pigeon at the end of "Outbreak" either.

They also haven't really furthed the relationship between April and Casey much other than a few scenes in "People's Choice"

geez give the show a chance all of the things you bring up are from this season or have just happend.....

*Duke* · 03-14-2006, 06:23 PM

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Ultimate Ninja knew of Shredder? Cool...

Yes he went to earth the first time to challange the Shredder but Leo had already cut off his head (actually his ultrom's robotic body's head).

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Who was the turtle that have seen the statue?

Leo. Right before he was attacked by the shadow warriors.

*Spitfire* · 03-14-2006, 06:49 PM

No one ever stopped to think that maybe that armor desgin isn't Shredder's? Anyone ever think maybe it belongs to the one who trainned him? I don't believe he learned all those moves without any trainning. I think the people the Ancient one talked to are the ones Shredder was taught by. How else could he build an army so quickly? And how else could get armor like that with just a basic exo-suit.

tortugapower · 03-14-2006, 07:48 PM

It seems like there are a line of Shredders, maybe it's the original or something. That might explain why there are all these other "followers" or something. I wonder how the original came about in that case.

*VaughnMichael* · 03-14-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke

Yes he went to earth the first time to challange the Shredder but Leo had already cut off his head (actually his ultrom's robotic body's head).
Leo. Right before he was attacked by the shadow warriors.

not to be nit picky or anything but it's UTROM not ULTROM just thought I's share that bit of info with ya

martinitolove · 03-24-2006, 03:57 PM

was there something about the shredder staue in the comics?

*VaughnMichael* · 03-25-2006, 07:03 AM

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was there something about the shredder staue in the comics?

no because the battle nexus was never in the comics untill just this past month and it is not the same as it is in the show.
-Putrescent

*tOkKa* · 03-25-2006, 07:36 AM

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martinitolove..

Or was it one of the Shredder look-alikes from the scene of "The Prodigal Son" whom the Ancient One meets?

-->> .. Bingo .. !! .. d4mm you're really smart !!

03-14-2006, 12:28 PM	#1
martinitolove Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 259	Shredder in Battle Nexus! I love that the show does have not any loose ends; reminds me a lot of the Gargoyles waay back. Nevertheless I do remember a scene as the TMNT first visited the Battle Nexus World in the Winners Hall - where all the statues of the winners were standing - that one of the turtles (don't remember who it was) seen a statue of Shredder (and there was even that Shredder-sound)... So, has Shredder once won the championship, too? Or was it one of the Shredder look-alikes from the scene of "The Prodigal Son" whom the Ancient One meets?

03-14-2006, 01:06 PM	#3
onyx Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 232	Can't really imagine the Shredder participating in the Battle Nexus. Since when does he follow rules set by others? I think the winner must have been someone who looks like the Shredder, but not him. One of the three shadow figures in the end of Tales of Yoshi seems likely. __________________

03-14-2006, 02:15 PM	#5
onyx Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 232	True, I forgot about that... but still, Shredder in the Battle Nexus? Fighting fair under someone else's rules? Fighting with honor? __________________

03-14-2006, 02:27 PM	#6
TheGreenMagic Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA Posts: 161	There could be a story in it. Granted, I can't for the life of me recall how much time passed between each Nexus Tournament, so this might not hold water, even as a theory. Shredder pulls a Traximus and heads to the Nexus tournament to try and find worthwhile warriors to bring back to Earth to destroy the Ultroms. Karai goes along, being his apprentice at this point. To keep up appearances with his apprentice (an act Shredder would later drop in Seasons 2 and 3) he keeps up appearances and fights in the tournament as an honorable warrior. __________________

03-14-2006, 06:49 PM	#13
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	No one ever stopped to think that maybe that armor desgin isn't Shredder's? Anyone ever think maybe it belongs to the one who trainned him? I don't believe he learned all those moves without any trainning. I think the people the Ancient one talked to are the ones Shredder was taught by. How else could he build an army so quickly? And how else could get armor like that with just a basic exo-suit. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

03-14-2006, 07:48 PM	#14
tortugapower Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 129	It seems like there are a line of Shredders, maybe it's the original or something. That might explain why there are all these other "followers" or something. I wonder how the original came about in that case.

03-24-2006, 03:57 PM	#16
martinitolove Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 259	was there something about the shredder staue in the comics?