New Movie about 9-11!

[Weird Pizza]

What do you think of the trailor? It looks intense to me!
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People were afraid to talk about the last topic I made here... hopefully we can handle this one.

[Duke]

I wasn't afraid to talk about it, but religious discussions are against the rules and your topic definitely had a religious tone to it.

That being said, I'll check out this trailor when I get back to my room. I'm not allowed to hook up speakers or use head phones at work so watching trailors or videos here is pointless.

[ZariusTwo]

...Was that the final trailer for Snakes On A Plane?

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

...Was that the final trailer for Snakes On A Plane?

hahaha I didn't even know anyone knew about the movie snakes on a plane!! my x boy friend did allot of stuff on that movie hahahah
I can't believe he told me the other day it has a fallowing!

[Anarky]

Am I the only one who thinks that movies about stuff like that is an insult to the event itself?

[Jester]

Why so? It shows the heroism of those who sacrificed their lives to save countless others form the fate of those in the Twin Towers. I think I'd want my loved one's death to be immortalized, remembered, and not in vain.

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by Jester

Why so? It shows the heroism of those who sacrificed their lives to save countless others form the fate of those in the Twin Towers. I think I'd want my loved one's death to be immortalized, remembered, and not in vain.

Thing is, those aren't real heroes they have in the movie, those are just some people who do a job for money. This movie is not about immortalizing anything, it's about making money, just like every other movie. And this I find insulting. They make money out of something terrible, just like Titanic is insulting for the same reason. Or "Saving Private Ryan".

Besides, it's nothing but a modern version of a freak show. "Look at that! It blows up!" or "Look at this guy, he has four heads!" (best example lately is that video of the autist basketballer).

If I lost someone in 9/11, I'd be majorly pissed at everyone who supports that movie. They're bastardizing a tragedy for monetary purposes. Hollywood apparently doesn't know any shame.

[Jester]

I can understand the "They're making money of the pain and death of these people" arguments. Heck, we have some cheaply made DVDs at the store where I work that I hate titled things like "The Aftermath of Katrina" Or "The Distruction of New Orleans" I see these as DVDs that are a blatent attempt to make money of the pain and suffering of the victims of that aweful event, but this movie is slightly diffrent. Yes, it is making money of of the tragedy, but it's also telling the story of some brave people who risked their lives to save their fellow Americans. No, it's not the true heroes being used in the account, they gave the ultimate sacrifice, but their acts are being honored by this film. It's similar to books written to tell the stories of these types of things. Are the authors only thinking of the revenue stream, or do they truely want to honor those who gave their loves in the defence of others?

EDIT: Yeah, I've had mixed feelings about the Autistic Basketball video. I mean, the only thing that made the story "news worthy" was the fact he had autism. It's great that he did so well, and acomplished this (though it was the last game of the season, why didn't they let the boy play eariler? He seemed good enough? Were they not allowing him to partisipate innitially because of the autism? so many questions...), but it does seem to just take away form the fact that the team themself didn't see him as autistic, but just as an entusiastic manager for their team. By the media pointing out his autism, aren't they kind of undoing that perseption? That he's essentially just another kid, just with a little bit more difficulty in life?

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by Jester

I can understand the "They're making money of the pain and death of these people" arguments. Heck, we have some cheaply made DVDs at the store where I work that I hate titled things like "The Aftermath of Katrina" Or "The Distruction of New Orleans" I see these as DVDs that are a blatent attempt to make money of the pain and suffering of the victims of that aweful event, but this movie is slightly diffrent. Yes, it is making money of of the tragedy,

Then it is not different. It makes money by bastardizing a true event.

but it's also telling the story of some brave people who risked their lives to save their fellow Americans.

Nice commercial catch there, isn't it? I mean, who wouldn't want to see a flick as patriotic as this? Who wants to be unamerican, eh? Not you! Oh God fobid, being unamerican? Ewww... that's worse than being a satanist in the bible belt.

No, it's not the true heroes being used in the account, they gave the ultimate sacrifice, but their acts are being honored by this film.

And at least they died a profitable death. Sure, they can't work any more, but lets use their names to make money then.

It's similar to books written to tell the stories of these types of things. Are the authors only thinking of the revenue stream, or do they truely want to honor those who gave their loves in the defence of others?

Do you really think that there are authors who work for free? Hell, I don't even do it. I mean, I write for a local newspaper these days and I wouldn't lift a finger if there wasn't money in it. Everyone's after the big money, it's the american thing to do. And the global thing as well. Everything is used to make money these days.

EDIT: Yeah, I've had mixed feelings about the Autistic Basketball video. I mean, the only thing that made the story "news worthy" was the fact he had autism. It's great that he did so well, and acomplished this (though it was the last game of the season, why didn't they let the boy play eariler? He seemed good enough? Were they not allowing him to partisipate innitially because of the autism? so many questions...), but it does seem to just take away form the fact that the team themself didn't see him as autistic, but just as an entusiastic manager for their team. By the media pointing out his autism, aren't they kind of undoing that perseption? That he's essentially just another kid, just with a little bit more difficulty in life?

Never! He's different. You know, that creepy stare he gives people, the weird things he does and says... ewww. But hey, look at the guy! Look at how he can run and jump and stuff!... Freak Show.

EDIT: Besides, movies like this 9/11-thing are totally tasteless.

[Jester]

All I'm saying is that yes, money is involved, you can't get around that, but it's still ment to honor the people who were a part of this incident. The director even went and got an ok from the families. I'm not saying that there isn't a monatary motive, but I also see this film as a tribute.

Look at the Passion of the Christ, made money, but was also a religous man's tribute to what his Savior did for him. (Note: Not an attempt to bring religion into this, just an example I heard recently.)

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by Jester

but I also see this film as a tribute.

Of course you do. And you're supposed to see it that way, that's merchandising, my friend. And you believing that just tells me that you're a victim of that merchandising. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you see through it. But if you don't, then you should ask yourself what went wrong. And there's a lot of media-victims out there, believe me. Even I am sometimes totally "Oh, heck, I so gotta see this. It's so deep and blah!"

But I don't think that it's a nice thing to do to an event like 9/11. Sure, asking families is a nice thing, but what if John Smith's family says "No."? They'll just replace him with Johnathan Smythe. That's what's bothering me. And that I find despicable. Besides, do we really want to see the towers explode again? I mean, we've seen them going down on live telecast all over the world and until 9/17 there was nothing else on TV.

[ZariusTwo]

Farenheight 9/11 was a much truer portrayal of the bulls*it behind this whole mess

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Farenheight 9/11 was a much truer portrayal of the bulls*it behind this whole mess

Bah! Michael Moore's a hack. He'd rather go and take a dump on GWB's lawn than do any real investigation. He gathers some facts and then he builds a story around it. Sure, the Bushes might have business connections to the Bin Ladens, but, what Moore doesn't tell us, is that the BL-clan doesn't really like Osama all that much. And, another fact that he doesn't mention, that business contacts doesn't necessarily mean best friends.

Personally, when it comes to stuff like that, I prefer Alex Jones (Although I hate his "Dark Secrets at Bohemian Grove", it's too farfetched) and the movie "Loose Change" when it comes to 9/11 (if anyone's interested in some facts behind all the terrorist-craze, watch this movie. It's not going "US bad! Bad!", but it's going more into a "Wait, something's odd here"-direction).

[Barkworm]

PLEASE let's not make this too political.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Anarky

Bah! Michael Moore's a hack. He'd rather go and take a dump on GWB's lawn than do any real investigation. He gathers some facts and then he builds a story around it. Sure, the Bushes might have business connections to the Bin Ladens, but, what Moore doesn't tell us, is that the BL-clan doesn't really like Osama all that much. And, another fact that he doesn't mention, that business contacts doesn't necessarily mean best friends.

Not getting into a political discussion here, but I have seen other films besides Moore's, I just find it the most underrated in regards to the "Moore sucks" bandwagon, like the other film showing the explosion on the second plane occuring before it crashed into the building.

[damnhooligan]

Meh. I can't say I'm too interested in seeing this movie. Nor am I terribly interested in how the movie may spark waves of controversy and debate throughout the country in the same way The Passion of the Christ did.

But I don't think making movies about 9/11 or any recent tragedies is tacky or inappropriate, like some folks are shouting. Thousands upon thousands of movies have been made based upon real tragedies, some good, some not. Sensitive matter like this needs to be handled with some tact and intelligence, rather than sensationalism and flashy scare tactics.

Some day, someone will make a thoughful and intelligent film (not documentary) about the events of 9/11 and all that. But I don't think this movie is it.

[GK Punk]

I'm just more amused by the amount of typos in this thread than anything else.

[cqb101]

It's too soon. People are still getting over the tragedy. Hollywood's so quick to cash in.

[ZariusTwo]

Too soon my ass, more like this crap has been shoved down our throats too long

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Anarky

If I lost someone in 9/11, I'd be majorly pissed at everyone who supports that movie. They're bastardizing a tragedy for monetary purposes. Hollywood apparently doesn't know any shame.

Just do what I do and not even watch any of the movies about 9/11. I had a friend on flight 93, it hits too close to home to me to watch these 9/11 movies.