Baby born with 3 arms!

*Raph's Girl* · 05-30-2006, 11:39 PM

During his medical career, Dr. Larry Hollier has seen only two babies born with three arms.

In both cases, there was no question about which arm had to be removed.

"The third arm was not as developed, so it was a fairly easy decision to amputate," said Hollier, co-director of the cranial facial surgery program at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston.

However, a baby boy born in China poses a more difficult challenge for doctors. Known as Jie-jie, the 2-month-old was born with one right arm and two left arms — which do not seem fully functional.

His Shanghai surgeons now must decide which arm to remove, and at this point, they aren't sure which arm will be the one to go.

Although rare, doctors have reported children born with extra extremities, such as arms, legs, fingers, toes. They usually determine which to remove depending on how well it works. Hollier said there are no reliable statistics to say how common extra limbs or extremeties are, especially since malformed fetuses are often aborted either spontaneously or surgically and therefore are not reported accurately.

When deciding which extremity to keep, doctors must carefully analyze the anatomy and physiology through imagery like X-rays and MRIs, which show bone structure and blood flow, as well as electro-diagnostic studies, which monitor nerve impulses from the brain to the muscle, doctors said. While an extra limb is rare, children with multiple digits and even hands are more common, said Dr. Ann Van Heest, an upper extremity surgeon at Gillete Childrens Speciality Healthcare in Minnessota. She has never seen a case like the baby in China.

How It Happens

Van Heest estimated that one out of 200,000 babies are born with two thumbs on one hand and one out of 2 million have doubling at the wrist, resulting in two hands.

To decide which extremity to remove, doctors usually wait until the child is six to 12 months old to perform any surgery, as they want to observe which extremity the child favors and uses more, Van Heest said.

"For a 2-month-old, I am not sure one would be ready to make that final assessment," she said.

Most cases of multiple limbs result from conjoined twins forming in development. One child does not survive and becomes essentially absorbed into the other, said Dr. Russell Jennings at the Children's Hospital in Boston.

In those cases, the extra limb is not connected to the baby's brain and the decision to amputate is straightforward. The cause of Jie-jie's extra arm seems unclear.

According to the evidence so far, Dr. Steven Stylianos of Miami Children's Hospital said he suspects that the extra limb most likely came about in the conjoined twin process. Whatever the explanation, Dr. Jorge Lazzareff said he has confidence in the Shanghai doctors' skills. In the last four years, he has traveled to China several times to perform surgery on orphans with birth defects.

"The baby is in good hands, in my experience. They are up to the task," said Lazzareff, director of pediatric neurosurgery at the University of California Los Angeles.

Hollier, at Texas Children's, said that infants tend to adapt to these disabilities. Their minds are at the early stage, so they can adapt to changes in motor development.

"Basically a child never misses a beat," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2021142&page=1

Raph's Girl note: After this was shown on the news here the general consenses was that the baby is a mutant. Still.. 3 arms!

I've known people born with extra fingers and toes so that doesn't freak me out.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 05-31-2006, 12:22 AM

Hopefully in the future instead of amputating the third arm scientists will learn to develop it further, thus granting the child 50% more strength than a normal child. At least it'll teach kids that it's cool to be different.

*Spitfire* · 05-31-2006, 12:29 AM

Jesus O_O That is creepy. But if he can use that arm it could be very useful.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 05-31-2006, 12:31 AM

Buying shirts would be a hassle, I guess. Heck, you couldn't even call them T-shirts-- they'd be, like, TF-shirts, I guess...

*iris* · 05-31-2006, 01:00 AM

That child is lucky if there's nothing wrong with its heart, with such an abnormality in proximity. Looks obvious to me which of these things doesn't belong, but I'm not a doctor.

I don't think this is freaky, for some reason. It would be better if the arms actually worked.

*Dr. Doom* · 05-31-2006, 01:14 AM

Hmmmm.....interesting.... -=takes notes=-

Ra · 05-31-2006, 01:27 AM

...third arms? Wow...

Maybe this is a sign that humans are to develop an extra arm in the future. After all "mutation is the key to our evolution".

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-31-2006, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Jesus O_O That is creepy. But if he can use that arm it could be very useful.

Yeah, you could surf porn sites while using the third arm to......n/m.

*Sewer Bull* · 05-31-2006, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Yeah, you could surf porn sites while using the third arm to......n/m.

I knew someone was going to say that.

*Katie* · 05-31-2006, 08:14 AM

ooooh....That's just kinda creepy. Like one of those parasitic twins *shivers*

*Spitfire* · 05-31-2006, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Yeah, you could surf porn sites while using the third arm to......n/m.

I was more thinking along the lines of a cheap shot when you get into a fight.

OA · 05-31-2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Yeah, you could surf porn sites while using the third arm to......n/m.

LOL...

im sure thats just one of many uses for a third arm...

*The Stryker* · 05-31-2006, 01:00 PM

Senator...Prepare the Sentinels

It has begun

*Raph's Girl* · 06-01-2006, 12:39 AM

Local news just did another story on this kid and damn... he's able to move all 3 arms!

Altho the hand of one of his arms (the one above the 3rd arm) appears to be somewhat deformed.

**Jester** · 06-01-2006, 12:47 AM

"They wish to cure us....but I say we are the cure!!!"

I agree that they should alow the kid to develop that 3rd arm. Yeah he'd be diffrent, but people need to learn to live with eachother's diffrences. This child is unique, and it's be awesome if he could learn to develop all 3 apendages.

**Jo Dawn** · 06-01-2006, 06:56 AM

Hmm... I don't find this freaky or weird at all. I find it facinating what the human body can produce and use and whatnot.

And I agree. It's too bad that:
1 - He can't use all three.
2 - Society would deem him AS a freak. That' so sad and discouraging that people as a whole still are that juvenile.

Peanut · 06-01-2006, 11:36 AM

Was I the only one who immediately thought of Goro when they saw the picture? My second thought was that kid would be a total bad ass in a boxing ring.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-01-2006, 07:39 PM

wow thats so cool!!!

*KROW* · 06-01-2006, 08:37 PM

Soon to be the world's greatest juggler.

*XERO* · 06-02-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KROW

Soon to be the world's greatest juggler.

Undercover.

That's kinda creepy yet cool at the same time.

05-30-2006, 11:39 PM	#1
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Baby born with 3 arms! During his medical career, Dr. Larry Hollier has seen only two babies born with three arms. In both cases, there was no question about which arm had to be removed. "The third arm was not as developed, so it was a fairly easy decision to amputate," said Hollier, co-director of the cranial facial surgery program at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston. However, a baby boy born in China poses a more difficult challenge for doctors. Known as Jie-jie, the 2-month-old was born with one right arm and two left arms — which do not seem fully functional. His Shanghai surgeons now must decide which arm to remove, and at this point, they aren't sure which arm will be the one to go. Although rare, doctors have reported children born with extra extremities, such as arms, legs, fingers, toes. They usually determine which to remove depending on how well it works. Hollier said there are no reliable statistics to say how common extra limbs or extremeties are, especially since malformed fetuses are often aborted either spontaneously or surgically and therefore are not reported accurately. When deciding which extremity to keep, doctors must carefully analyze the anatomy and physiology through imagery like X-rays and MRIs, which show bone structure and blood flow, as well as electro-diagnostic studies, which monitor nerve impulses from the brain to the muscle, doctors said. While an extra limb is rare, children with multiple digits and even hands are more common, said Dr. Ann Van Heest, an upper extremity surgeon at Gillete Childrens Speciality Healthcare in Minnessota. She has never seen a case like the baby in China. How It Happens Van Heest estimated that one out of 200,000 babies are born with two thumbs on one hand and one out of 2 million have doubling at the wrist, resulting in two hands. To decide which extremity to remove, doctors usually wait until the child is six to 12 months old to perform any surgery, as they want to observe which extremity the child favors and uses more, Van Heest said. "For a 2-month-old, I am not sure one would be ready to make that final assessment," she said. Most cases of multiple limbs result from conjoined twins forming in development. One child does not survive and becomes essentially absorbed into the other, said Dr. Russell Jennings at the Children's Hospital in Boston. In those cases, the extra limb is not connected to the baby's brain and the decision to amputate is straightforward. The cause of Jie-jie's extra arm seems unclear. According to the evidence so far, Dr. Steven Stylianos of Miami Children's Hospital said he suspects that the extra limb most likely came about in the conjoined twin process. Whatever the explanation, Dr. Jorge Lazzareff said he has confidence in the Shanghai doctors' skills. In the last four years, he has traveled to China several times to perform surgery on orphans with birth defects. "The baby is in good hands, in my experience. They are up to the task," said Lazzareff, director of pediatric neurosurgery at the University of California Los Angeles. Hollier, at Texas Children's, said that infants tend to adapt to these disabilities. Their minds are at the early stage, so they can adapt to changes in motor development. "Basically a child never misses a beat," he said. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2021142&page=1 Raph's Girl note: After this was shown on the news here the general consenses was that the baby is a mutant. Still.. 3 arms! I've known people born with extra fingers and toes so that doesn't freak me out. __________________

05-31-2006, 12:29 AM	#3
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05-31-2006, 01:00 AM	#5
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	That child is lucky if there's nothing wrong with its heart, with such an abnormality in proximity. Looks obvious to me which of these things doesn't belong, but I'm not a doctor. I don't think this is freaky, for some reason. It would be better if the arms actually worked. __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ]

05-31-2006, 01:14 AM	#6
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Hmmmm.....interesting.... -=takes notes=- __________________ I love you, Pickle.

05-31-2006, 01:27 AM	#7
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	...third arms? Wow... Maybe this is a sign that humans are to develop an extra arm in the future. After all "mutation is the key to our evolution". __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

05-31-2006, 12:22 AM	#2
Space Lieutenant Josh Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Village of Rock'n Kick-Ass Posts: 492	Hopefully in the future instead of amputating the third arm scientists will learn to develop it further, thus granting the child 50% more strength than a normal child. At least it'll teach kids that it's cool to be different.

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06-01-2006, 12:39 AM	#14
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Local news just did another story on this kid and damn... he's able to move all 3 arms! Altho the hand of one of his arms (the one above the 3rd arm) appears to be somewhat deformed. __________________

06-01-2006, 12:47 AM	#15
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	"They wish to cure us....but I say we are the cure!!!" I agree that they should alow the kid to develop that 3rd arm. Yeah he'd be diffrent, but people need to learn to live with eachother's diffrences. This child is unique, and it's be awesome if he could learn to develop all 3 apendages. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

06-01-2006, 06:56 AM	#16
Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	Hmm... I don't find this freaky or weird at all. I find it facinating what the human body can produce and use and whatnot. And I agree. It's too bad that: 1 - He can't use all three. 2 - Society would deem him AS a freak. That' so sad and discouraging that people as a whole still are that juvenile. __________________

06-01-2006, 11:36 AM	#17
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06-01-2006, 07:39 PM	#18
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	wow thats so cool!!!

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