Tokka and Razar

Krangstein · 06-02-2006, 06:47 PM

I wonder if the writers thought about bringing Tokka and Razar to the series. As we know, the movies were heavily based on the comics, and not the 87 series, I thought maybe the writers had wondered about Shredder having mutants like in the movie. I also read some were that they were originally going to have Tatsu in the series as Shredder's right hand, but created Hun instead cause they didn't want to look like they were short on creating new characters. Now if you think about it, Tatsu and Hun are very similar in many ways and Tatsu could so easily have been replaced by Hun. What do you think about the Tokka and Razar idea??

Gary · 06-02-2006, 06:48 PM

I don't want another rocksteady and bebop. Hun failing was enough.

Krangstein · 06-02-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary

I don't want another rocksteady and bebop. Hun failing was enough.

Tokka and Razar don't have to be "Rocksteady and Bebop". They were totally different in the movie and very dangerous, not comic-based characters like in the old-school cartoon. I think seeing them in the new series could be very interesting. And how did Hun fail?

Gary · 06-02-2006, 06:57 PM

When I said I don't want another pair of them, I meant that I don't want to see another group of mutants constantly failing the shredder. Hun already did it in every episode.

How didn't Hun fail? I belive that in the end, after his constant failures, Saki was threatening him.

Krangstein · 06-02-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary

When I said I don't want another pair of them, I meant that I don't want to see another group of mutants constantly failing the shredder. Hun already did it in every episode.

How didn't Hun fail? I belive that in the end, after his constant failures, Saki was threatening him.

Your right, Hun always failed. I was surprised how easy Shredder was on Hun in the beginning. He was too hard on Baxter, and too easy on Hun. I for one wish they had kept Tatsu instead of Hun.

*ZariusTwo* · 06-02-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Krangstein

I wonder if the writers thought about bringing Tokka and Razar to the series. As we know, the movies were heavily based on the comics, and not the 87 series[

Tokka and Razor were created under protest from Eastman and Laird, the studio wanted Rocksteady and Bebop, they said "f*ck you", those characters were just used to appease both parties and just happened to be picked up and plugged in the original series.

They did'nt really have characters either, "ruthless and savage?", what movie were you watching? They were totally dependent on Shredder as their mommy for pete's sake

And at this stage, the new series is far from being "based on the comics", it's officially it's own animal now.

Krangstein · 06-02-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Tokka and Razor were created under protest from Eastman and Laird, the studio wanted Rocksteady and Bebop, they said "f*ck you", those characters were just used to appease both parties and just happened to be picked up and plugged in the original series.

They did'nt really have characters either.

And at this stage, the new series is far from being "based on the comics", it's officially it's own animal now.

I also read that Tokka and Razar were created under protest. And I can see why. As much as I love the old series, Rocksteady and Bebop would have been horrible in the movie. How were they going to make them look credible??

And when I say the series is based on the comics, I don't mean that as a bad thing. I know it is very original in many ways and has indeed because it's own animal, but it's still alot closer to the comics than the original series, and many stories are based on the story archs from the comics.

Krangstein · 06-06-2006, 06:55 AM

Although, seeing bebob with sunglasses and purple hair, in a live movie would have been interesting to see...

*VaughnMichael* · 06-07-2006, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Krangstein

Although, seeing bebob with sunglasses and purple hair, in a live movie would have been interesting to see...

my friend Roxy made this when she was in school I freaking love it I keep bugging her and telling her I'd pay her to make a rocksteady!
This is totally my idea of how they would look in movie form also god it's so freaking awsome I look at this picture so much.

Krangstein · 06-07-2006, 09:42 AM

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my friend Roxy made this when she was in school I freaking love it I keep bugging her and telling her I'd pay her to make a rocksteady!
This is totally my idea of how they would look in movie form also god it's so freaking awsome I look at this picture so much.

This is awsome. Maybe they should have but R&B in the movie

*Dr. Doom* · 06-07-2006, 12:02 PM

Holy ****!

*VaughnMichael* · 06-07-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Krangstein

This is awsome. Maybe they should have but R&B in the movie

uh yea you think...with talented creative people it works great allot of makeup artists are hacks but if they actully really care about the subject at hand it will look great. Roxy and I run around screaming smash toitles all the time lol. I don't know about anyone else but they really would have been a hell of allot better than tokka and rahzar.

Krangstein · 06-09-2006, 09:02 AM

Do you think Tokka and Razar will ever appear in the new series?

martinitolove · 06-09-2006, 04:14 PM

I hope so! At least a cameo as April's jumpsuit or Gen as Rocksteady...

*Raph's Girl* · 06-09-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Tokka and Razor were created under protest from Eastman and Laird, the studio wanted Rocksteady and Bebop

I liked the Tokka and Razar used in the original animated series. Sure they were only in like one ep...but they seemed more smarter and Razar had a bit of a british accent.

*Ecto Jedi* · 06-09-2006, 04:39 PM

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That's incredible! Gosh, how cool would it be to have that at a Halloween party...!

06-02-2006, 06:47 PM	#1
Krangstein Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iceland, Europe Posts: 494	Tokka and Razar I wonder if the writers thought about bringing Tokka and Razar to the series. As we know, the movies were heavily based on the comics, and not the 87 series, I thought maybe the writers had wondered about Shredder having mutants like in the movie. I also read some were that they were originally going to have Tatsu in the series as Shredder's right hand, but created Hun instead cause they didn't want to look like they were short on creating new characters. Now if you think about it, Tatsu and Hun are very similar in many ways and Tatsu could so easily have been replaced by Hun. What do you think about the Tokka and Razar idea??

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06-02-2006, 06:48 PM	#2
Gary Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 375	I don't want another rocksteady and bebop. Hun failing was enough.

06-02-2006, 06:57 PM	#4
Gary Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 375	When I said I don't want another pair of them, I meant that I don't want to see another group of mutants constantly failing the shredder. Hun already did it in every episode. How didn't Hun fail? I belive that in the end, after his constant failures, Saki was threatening him.

06-06-2006, 06:55 AM	#8
Krangstein Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iceland, Europe Posts: 494	Although, seeing bebob with sunglasses and purple hair, in a live movie would have been interesting to see...

06-09-2006, 09:02 AM	#13
Krangstein Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iceland, Europe Posts: 494	Do you think Tokka and Razar will ever appear in the new series?

06-09-2006, 04:14 PM	#14
martinitolove Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 259	I hope so! At least a cameo as April's jumpsuit or Gen as Rocksteady...