Mood of the new Cartoon series (possible spoilers)

Prowl · 01-05-2003, 03:23 PM

So, I know it was said that the new toon will have some comedic moments, which is fine. But do you think the overall tone of the cartoon be darker, especially in the Return to New York area? And like in the comics, do you think the topic of death will be acknowledged? The foot soldiers appear to be human in this new show, and Leo and Raph have bladed weapons. I do wish that Cartoon Network had gotten the airing rights to it, as they don't mind getting their hands dirty with some of their shows (Samurai Jack comes to mind). Fox tends to be a little more family friendly.

**Karpo_007** · 01-05-2003, 03:38 PM

This has been mine concern too. Well I guess there can be mention of death, IE Nagi's death is not shown in the comic, just Yoshis bloody fists. And again, Shredder's body exploded into pieces. Only part of his armor was left.

I hope they could do those, neither requires a graphical death. The beheading of Shredder at the end of Return to New York will most probably not get animated...

Prowl · 01-05-2003, 03:40 PM

True, though it would be great to get that last shot in RTN where they are watching the city from afar with Shredder's helm on Leo's sword hilt.

**Karpo_007** · 01-05-2003, 03:42 PM

Shredder's Funeral would be a great thing seeing animated... Sigh...

Prowl · 01-05-2003, 03:55 PM

We'll see. I have a bit more hope. Two things I noticed initially that gave he hope was the fact that the turtles had no pupils (just like the comics). Secondly, those New York streets shots on the official site are the nicest depictions of the comic's feel I have seen. Thirdly (actually) the missing initials from the belts and the fact that thier knee and elbow pads are brown colored.

In other words, the only thing that goes back to the kiddy turtles is the colored bandanas, and I can live with that.

**Karpo_007** · 01-05-2003, 04:09 PM

Yeah me too. And I too like the fact that they don't have pupils when their bandanas are on. It gives them that Mirage kind of look. Well it is clear that we won't get a straight conversion of Mirage in saturday morning slot, but it can be really enjoyable show nevertheless.

Prowl · 01-05-2003, 04:16 PM

Definitely. And a modified version of those great stories is better than a silly shredder and a brain running around (even though, as a kid I still enjoyed them).

**Karpo_007** · 01-05-2003, 04:26 PM

Same here. As a Kid I totally Loved the goofy turtles. But it is time to see the TMNT in their original form. And This show might be the closest thing that has ever been on screen.

*Jephael* · 01-05-2003, 04:42 PM

I'm just looking forward to seeing the turtles make a comeback, and I do hope this means we'll see the original cartoon make it to DVDs in the near future.

**Karpo_007** · 01-05-2003, 04:45 PM

Tha might still be a long shot, but never lose hope.

**HorseTechie** · 01-06-2003, 10:49 AM

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The foot soldiers appear to be human in this new show

Mmh... I don't think so. I read that after Shredder pair up with cyborg mastermind Baxter, he creates robot soliders for him. The Purple Dragon gang seem to be the only fleshies of the Foot.

**Kali** · 01-06-2003, 11:15 AM

I got the impression that most of the Foot will be human. Some may use advanced technology, cybernetics, or even be robots themselves, made by Baxter, but most would be human. It's funny how people can read these things in different ways. Man, I so cannot wait until Feburary.

Prowl · 01-06-2003, 11:47 AM

I guess I'm split on which I would prefer. With humans, you get the original intent of the foot clan. But with cyborgs, Leo and Ralph can slice and dice them and make it look great without worrying about mommy and daddy complaining to the network, and I want to see some great sword action.

**Karpo_007** · 01-06-2003, 12:13 PM

Yeah from what I read the foot will be human. There was even one episode of some higly trained foot soldiers that have some sort of camouflage...

*Anarchistguy* · 01-06-2003, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

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The foot soldiers appear to be human in this new show

Mmh... I don't think so. I read that after Shredder pair up with cyborg mastermind Baxter, he creates robot soliders for him. The Purple Dragon gang seem to be the only fleshies of the Foot.

This is from official site :

"The Foot is a well-oiled organized crime ring, led by the Shredder. There are many different divsions of the long-lived and much feared order, from suit wearing corporate criminals to the costumed and deadly Ninjitsu warriors. There are also secret and deadly Foot, their knowledge of the martial and arcane arts making them far more lethal than you've seen in the past. The Foot are no longer mindless robot drones, but cunning and nefarious foes."

So this means the Foot ARE human.

**Karpo_007** · 01-07-2003, 04:11 AM

Yes atleast most of them.

PanMan · 01-09-2003, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

Quote:

The foot soldiers appear to be human in this new show

Mmh... I don't think so. I read that after Shredder pair up with cyborg mastermind Baxter, he creates robot soliders for him. The Purple Dragon gang seem to be the only fleshies of the Foot.

i don't think the Purple Dragons are part of the foot, at least not in the beginning (shredder might entice them to join for all i know). they are probably just a side gang that the TMNT fight now and then and they might get entangled with shredder and try and kill him or something. just speculating.

**Karpo_007** · 01-09-2003, 05:25 PM

Yeah as far as I know, There is nothing that connects the purple dragon to the foot.

**HorseTechie** · 01-09-2003, 05:36 PM

In regards to the Foot = human or robot debate, I think it was this ep cap that made me think they were robots:

Episode Seven: "The Way of Invisibility"
Raph and Casey run into the Foot Tech Ninjas - a new breed of Soldier that is faster, stronger and able to make themselves virtually invisible. Raph is captured but Casey escapes to warn the Turtles of this new threat.

I guess one is bound to leap to conclusions with the very little info given.

**azure turtle** · 01-09-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Yeah as far as I know, There is nothing that connects the purple dragon to the foot.

Hmm... Wasn't it stated somewhere that Hun is Shredder's right hand man, but he was also once a member of the Purple Dragons? I remember him having tattoos for both the Foot and the PDs.

01-05-2003, 03:23 PM	#1
Prowl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 191	Mood of the new Cartoon series (possible spoilers) So, I know it was said that the new toon will have some comedic moments, which is fine. But do you think the overall tone of the cartoon be darker, especially in the Return to New York area? And like in the comics, do you think the topic of death will be acknowledged? The foot soldiers appear to be human in this new show, and Leo and Raph have bladed weapons. I do wish that Cartoon Network had gotten the airing rights to it, as they don't mind getting their hands dirty with some of their shows (Samurai Jack comes to mind). Fox tends to be a little more family friendly. __________________ "You can run but you can't hide!"

01-05-2003, 03:40 PM	#3
Prowl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 191	True, though it would be great to get that last shot in RTN where they are watching the city from afar with Shredder's helm on Leo's sword hilt. __________________ "You can run but you can't hide!"

01-05-2003, 03:55 PM	#5
Prowl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 191	We'll see. I have a bit more hope. Two things I noticed initially that gave he hope was the fact that the turtles had no pupils (just like the comics). Secondly, those New York streets shots on the official site are the nicest depictions of the comic's feel I have seen. Thirdly (actually) the missing initials from the belts and the fact that thier knee and elbow pads are brown colored. In other words, the only thing that goes back to the kiddy turtles is the colored bandanas, and I can live with that. __________________ "You can run but you can't hide!"

01-05-2003, 04:16 PM	#7
Prowl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 191	Definitely. And a modified version of those great stories is better than a silly shredder and a brain running around (even though, as a kid I still enjoyed them). __________________ "You can run but you can't hide!"

01-05-2003, 04:42 PM	#9
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I'm just looking forward to seeing the turtles make a comeback, and I do hope this means we'll see the original cartoon make it to DVDs in the near future. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

01-05-2003, 03:38 PM	#2
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	This has been mine concern too. Well I guess there can be mention of death, IE Nagi's death is not shown in the comic, just Yoshis bloody fists. And again, Shredder's body exploded into pieces. Only part of his armor was left. I hope they could do those, neither requires a graphical death. The beheading of Shredder at the end of Return to New York will most probably not get animated...

01-05-2003, 03:42 PM	#4
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Shredder's Funeral would be a great thing seeing animated... Sigh...

01-05-2003, 04:09 PM	#6
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah me too. And I too like the fact that they don't have pupils when their bandanas are on. It gives them that Mirage kind of look. Well it is clear that we won't get a straight conversion of Mirage in saturday morning slot, but it can be really enjoyable show nevertheless.

01-05-2003, 04:26 PM	#8
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Same here. As a Kid I totally Loved the goofy turtles. But it is time to see the TMNT in their original form. And This show might be the closest thing that has ever been on screen.

01-05-2003, 04:45 PM	#10
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Tha might still be a long shot, but never lose hope.

01-06-2003, 11:15 AM	#12
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	I got the impression that most of the Foot will be human. Some may use advanced technology, cybernetics, or even be robots themselves, made by Baxter, but most would be human. It's funny how people can read these things in different ways. Man, I so cannot wait until Feburary.

01-06-2003, 11:47 AM	#13
Prowl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 191	I guess I'm split on which I would prefer. With humans, you get the original intent of the foot clan. But with cyborgs, Leo and Ralph can slice and dice them and make it look great without worrying about mommy and daddy complaining to the network, and I want to see some great sword action. __________________ "You can run but you can't hide!"

01-06-2003, 12:13 PM	#14
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah from what I read the foot will be human. There was even one episode of some higly trained foot soldiers that have some sort of camouflage...

01-07-2003, 04:11 AM	#16
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yes atleast most of them.

01-09-2003, 05:25 PM	#18
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah as far as I know, There is nothing that connects the purple dragon to the foot.

01-09-2003, 05:36 PM	#19
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	In regards to the Foot = human or robot debate, I think it was this ep cap that made me think they were robots: Episode Seven: "The Way of Invisibility" Raph and Casey run into the Foot Tech Ninjas - a new breed of Soldier that is faster, stronger and able to make themselves virtually invisible. Raph is captured but Casey escapes to warn the Turtles of this new threat. I guess one is bound to leap to conclusions with the very little info given.