Pointless stupidity

[Raven]

Recently the MPA has been cracking down on some sites, manly sites such as this.

www.mxtabs.net and www.olga.net

These sites contain music sheets to very popular songs on the radio, these sites are for aspring musicians who want to teach themselves how to play there intrustment but the MPA is saying that this is illegal and is removing these sites that teach you how to play the song.

Is this really nessacary? Can they really go and do such a thing?

Personally I think this is a bunch of ********, many out there teach themselves how to play instruments and these sites are manly a way of helping out there not stealing the songs.

Whats your view on this?

[Stimor]

if it is illegal they have to act that way, though it is extremely silly ._.

[GK Punk]

I remember the first time OLGA was shut down for this.
It is illiegal for them to put Tabs up for the same reason it is for MP3s. I do disagree with it though.

[Usagi-San]

Stupid yes. But also illegal, so they wiill just have to work toward making it legal.

[iris]

It's the same idea with disallowing people from posting entire copyrighted books on the internet. Sheet music is not so prohibitively expensive that you can't buy it. But they do go overboard with enforcement sometimes.

[KROW]

What's so bad about going to a music store and buying music sheets from your favorite bands? Really, I'd rather have a book in my hands where I can see the pages large enough and clear enough to use it properly than to have to read off a computer screen.

Sometimes we as a people put too much reliability into the internet.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by KROW

What's so bad about going to a music store and buying music sheets from your favorite bands? Really, I'd rather have a book in my hands where I can see the pages large enough and clear enough to use it properly than to have to read off a computer screen.

Because bands I listen to either don't have the money to make these music sheets or they are only avalible in Europe. Besides alot of the times people who submit tabs to these sites are figuring the songs out themselves. And that shouldn't be a problem.

I know tons of songs that have many different ways of playing them. Like the TMNT theme. I saw 4 ways to play online and my friend played a different way. They all sound the same pretty much.

[GK Punk]

Yep, basically like Spit said. A lot of Guitar tab you'll find on the net is not available anywhere. In fact, most guitar tabs you'll find on the net have been tabbed by fans themselves, just wanting to help other fans learn a song or two.

You can really only buy guitar tab books for hit albums. So anything more obscure, or say J-pop, or video game music, cartoon themes, if you can't find them tabbed out by a fan online, then you won't have them at all.

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by KROW

What's so bad about going to a music store and buying music sheets from your favorite bands? Really, I'd rather have a book in my hands where I can see the pages large enough and clear enough to use it properly than to have to read off a computer screen.

Sometimes we as a people put too much reliability into the internet.

I totally agree. I'd rather buy the book. And I also agree that we rely too much on the internet as a whole.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Because bands I listen to either don't have the money to make these music sheets or they are only avalible in Europe. Besides alot of the times people who submit tabs to these sites are figuring the songs out themselves. And that shouldn't be a problem.

I know tons of songs that have many different ways of playing them. Like the TMNT theme. I saw 4 ways to play online and my friend played a different way. They all sound the same pretty much.

I see. But, really, if you already have the albums of those obscure and/or poor bands, you could just learn the chords on your own. Sure, it's hard work, but it's definitely worth it, right?

There's nothing wrong with having pride in taking the hard road.

[GK Punk]

Not if you don't know the chord. Or the scale.

[KROW]

Isn't that where the hard work comes into play?

[GK Punk]

No, that's where LEARNING comes in to play. And that's what people use the ****ing tabs for. Jesus Christ.

Oh I forgot. This apparently is an issue of black and white. Guitar tabs are just as illegal as drugs.

[KROW]

Well, someone seems to be getting riled up for nothing.

Did I say that I agree with whomever decided to deem this whole online business illegal? No, I don't believe so. Sorry if I gave that impression.

I won't even press the fact that hard work and learning can be synonymous.

Maybe next time Kittie posts in a thread, I shouldn't try to comment, since his assumptions are always valid. Sorry if that comes out as harsh, but I don't particularly care for that response.

[愛]

I guess next time someone says something rude and offensive to another, I should lock this thread.

Keep it on topic and don't be a jerk. If you really need to say "learn2play kthxbye," take it to PM's.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Lain

I guess next time someone says something rude and offensive to another, I should lock this thread.

Keep it on topic and don't be a jerk. If you really need to say "learn2play kthxbye," take it to PM's.

Okay, first of all, I wasn't being a jerk. I apologized twice in my previous post. Secondly, I wasn't the one who used coarse language. Third, if Kittie wanted the thread locked, he could do it himself. Fourth, I was on topic for the most part. Fifth, saying, "learn2play kthxbye" is not who I am, so I wouldn't disrespect anybody by replying that way.

And if you decide that this is a personal attack on you, which it's not, that's your prerogative.

[愛]

Did I mention any names? No. Way to jump on me the first chance you got. I'd love to say something here, but it'd violate rule #2 to an extreme degree, so I'll refrain.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Lain

Did I mention any names? No. Way to jump on me the first chance you got. I'd love to say something here, but it'd violate rule #2 to an extreme degree, so I'll refrain.

Oh, come on. It's clear that you directed that at me. "learn2play kthxbye"? Pretty obvious who you meant by that.



Now, to stay on topic here, I'm saying that if you can't download tabs or whatever online, that trying to learn a song the hard way is an inconvenience that brings a great reward. It's wrong for it to be illegal, since it's not hurting anyone or infringing on any rights that I can see, but there's always a way to cope through those things.

[Jo Dawn]

Ooook. I think this is all a case of over-reaction. Misunderstanding. Let's just wipe this little slate clean and go on...

Deep breaths people, deep breaths.



And on topic, I'll say... um... Well, I totally agree with Krow... Honestly, I don't care about the illegal part of it... BUT... I think learning it yourself is far more rewarding. It's what I do if I can't find the book to buy... It impresses the heck outta me when people I know can do that, heh. I think it's quite empowering.

[GK Punk]

That's the thing, sometimes you just can't do it on your own. I've been lucky enough to do it half the time, but there are times the chord phrasing is just outright confusing. A lot of tabs aren't even direct transcriptions, rather they just tell you what chords are used in the song. So if you get stuck, you can just look it up and say "Ok, it says to use that chord... now to find how to finger that one..."

In a way, it is still teaching yourself. Obviously, you shouldn't use tabs for every song that comes by, since I'd say 9 times out of 10, you can figure it out, even if you use a different chord in a spot here or there.

I'm saying that if you can't download tabs or whatever online, that trying to learn a song the hard way is an inconvenience that brings a great reward. It's wrong for it to be illegal,

And alls I'm saying is for some people, especially beginers or part timers, that's impossible. Your ear has to be 100% trained to do it the hard way, and you have to have almost perfect pitch. My nephew learned to do it "The hard way" 'cause I trained him to take as much in as you can by ear, and if you get stumped THEN look up the chord and move on.

It's obviously not as big of a deal as these people are making, it's not like MP3s which very well could hurt the sales of an album. (And let's not argue that, 'cause it's pretty much a proven fact that it can hurt the sales. With out sales, there is no new music. etc)

I wasn't the one who used coarse language.

...Yeah... 'cause... I don't do that often?

Spoiler:

I do. It's true. Cussing is fun. Bless the auto censor.

And for the record, the only thing that pissed me off* was the way it seemed kinda almost holier than thou, and one sided. All I wanted to do was point out the other side, and it felt like I Was being harrased for it.

Spoiler:

*See, there it is again.

Maybe next time Kittie posts in a thread, I shouldn't try to comment, since his assumptions are always valid. Sorry if that comes out as harsh, but I don't particularly care for that response.

And that's exactly how your post came across to me.

So there, I think that's all out of the way.