Michaelangelo's Christmas rescue

Krangstein · 08-27-2006, 05:41 PM

Can some one tell me some thing about the Daimyo. In The Big Brawl part 4 the ultimate Ninja disappears and in the real world, the Turtles learn that the Daimyo blames them for his sons "death". But in Michaelangelo's Christmas rescue, the Daimyo seems to hold no grudges, and that episode was aired between Big Brawl and M's Cristmas rescue. What's the deal?

Jed · 08-27-2006, 06:26 PM

The Daimyo blaming the Turtles was due to magic wasn't it? So the magic might not have been started by then, or it might not have been going on long enough at that stage to have any affect on him yet.

Krangstein · 08-27-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jed

The Daimyo blaming the Turtles was due to magic wasn't it? So the magic might not have been started by then, or it might not have been going on long enough at that stage to have any affect on him yet.

That's odd. why magic? wasn't losing a son enough reason for him to be bitter?

*gobo* · 08-27-2006, 07:14 PM

If you watch "The Real World" carefully, Ultimate Draco had put a spell on The Daimyo. So, it is reasonable that he wouldn't have blamed anyone but his son or Draco for the accident. The Hamato family was quite obviously the victim of The Ultimate Ninja. So, if he held a grudge, it would be against Draco for leading his son astray.

I'm spelling the name like the constellation, but I have a feeling it's actually Drako. Does anyone know off the top of their head?

*Masked Ninja* · 08-28-2006, 02:18 PM

I believe it is Drako.

I assumed it was magical trickery, too. Very reminiscient of Saruman's influence on Theoden in The Two Towers... especially the film version, because the Daimyo is sitting weakly in his chair with an out-of-control beard.

Krangstein · 08-30-2006, 10:49 AM

maybe Michaelangelo's Christmas rescue was written after The Real world.

*gobo* · 08-30-2006, 11:17 AM

Or, maybe you're just making a big deal out of nothing again.

Think of it this way: both of the holiday themed episodes were more kid-oriented than the rest of the series, so they can't be expected to be perfect. That's like saying an entire season of holiday-themed eps is going to be perfect when you're actually talking about Fast Forward.

But, I believe that Lord of the Rings reference mentioned by Masked Ninja was more than likely what they were going for. Their pop culture references are clearly not limited to Mikey in as much as they had Don say "Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Neo-- I mean, Leo" after Leo pulled that Matrix-esque trick in "Secret Origins" Part Two. By the way, was I the only one to be rushed to the hospital with a lameness overdose after witnessing that particular reference. Luckily, this was a removable joke (could easily deleted from memory without screwing up the story, unlike the multiple episodes in the first show where the resolution was removing batteries or such).

08-27-2006, 05:41 PM	#1
Krangstein Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iceland, Europe Posts: 494	Michaelangelo's Christmas rescue Can some one tell me some thing about the Daimyo. In The Big Brawl part 4 the ultimate Ninja disappears and in the real world, the Turtles learn that the Daimyo blames them for his sons "death". But in Michaelangelo's Christmas rescue, the Daimyo seems to hold no grudges, and that episode was aired between Big Brawl and M's Cristmas rescue. What's the deal?

08-27-2006, 06:26 PM	#2
Jed Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 956	The Daimyo blaming the Turtles was due to magic wasn't it? So the magic might not have been started by then, or it might not have been going on long enough at that stage to have any affect on him yet. __________________ I am Frank-Zappa-as-imagined-by-the-editor-of-a-famous-rock-&-roll-magazine. I am an anachronism who makes the ugliest music on the planet. I have no right to call myself a member of the human race. I am tasteless, untalented, pompous, arrogant, cruel, insensitive, vulgar and not a fun guy because I don't use drugs.

08-27-2006, 07:14 PM	#4
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	If you watch "The Real World" carefully, Ultimate Draco had put a spell on The Daimyo. So, it is reasonable that he wouldn't have blamed anyone but his son or Draco for the accident. The Hamato family was quite obviously the victim of The Ultimate Ninja. So, if he held a grudge, it would be against Draco for leading his son astray. I'm spelling the name like the constellation, but I have a feeling it's actually Drako. Does anyone know off the top of their head? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

08-30-2006, 11:17 AM	#7
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Or, maybe you're just making a big deal out of nothing again. Think of it this way: both of the holiday themed episodes were more kid-oriented than the rest of the series, so they can't be expected to be perfect. That's like saying an entire season of holiday-themed eps is going to be perfect when you're actually talking about Fast Forward. But, I believe that Lord of the Rings reference mentioned by Masked Ninja was more than likely what they were going for. Their pop culture references are clearly not limited to Mikey in as much as they had Don say "Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Neo-- I mean, Leo" after Leo pulled that Matrix-esque trick in "Secret Origins" Part Two. By the way, was I the only one to be rushed to the hospital with a lameness overdose after witnessing that particular reference. Luckily, this was a removable joke (could easily deleted from memory without screwing up the story, unlike the multiple episodes in the first show where the resolution was removing batteries or such). __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell. Last edited by gobo; 08-30-2006 at 05:34 PM.

08-28-2006, 02:18 PM	#5
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	I believe it is Drako. I assumed it was magical trickery, too. Very reminiscient of Saruman's influence on Theoden in The Two Towers... especially the film version, because the Daimyo is sitting weakly in his chair with an out-of-control beard.

08-30-2006, 10:49 AM	#6
Krangstein Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iceland, Europe Posts: 494	maybe Michaelangelo's Christmas rescue was written after The Real world.