The shredder or Lord Dregg who the better antagonist.

snake king · 09-21-2006, 09:16 PM

Now which two villains do you consider the better antagonist.

Bad Guys Lover · 09-23-2006, 02:05 PM

Shredder,of course

Spawn Guy · 09-23-2006, 02:07 PM

Dregg. I just could never take toon Shredder seriously, even when they lost the goofy element during the whole red sky period.

The Ninja · 09-23-2006, 08:52 PM

Dregg because he was a more serious villain and actually posed a bigger threat.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 09-25-2006, 08:10 AM

Shredder ended up being a pretty scary dude, especially in the Red Sky episode where he blew up that building, but I don't think he ever got so close to killing the turtles that they needed to make the episode a 3-parter. I'll still give Shredder the nod over Dregg, though. He proved a lot tougher to kill.

*Sage Ninja* · 09-25-2006, 11:43 AM

thats because the turtles never really tryed to kill shredder. Dregg was the bigger antagonist but Shredder...was Shredder. **shrugs**

*Drtooth* · 09-26-2006, 03:03 PM

Shredder indefinately. Dregg seems like a filler character and basically like every single other lame overdone villain in cartoon history. Drgg had his momsents, but Shredder and Krang were better at being villains. They weren't too straight (as in straightman in a comic sketch) so they had more character and more depth to them.

*Fang Wolf* · 09-26-2006, 03:43 PM

Shredder, He is for me!

*Sage Ninja* · 09-26-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

Shredder indefinately. Dregg seems like a filler character and basically like every single other lame overdone villain in cartoon history. Drgg had his momsents, but Shredder and Krang were better at being villains. They weren't too straight (as in straightman in a comic sketch) so they had more character and more depth to them.

Hey thankyou Drtooth. You pretty much just summed up what I think on the subject. I guess what i didn't like about Lord Dregg and the whole Red Sky arc as a whole is that the show seemed to cop out and try to change its self just to compete with other shows of that time. And thus lose its uniqueness. not to say that a more serious classic TMNT wouldn't have been awsome. But I feel that the show was already heading it that direction during season seven with out it radically changing its premise to much.

*Drtooth* · 09-27-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

not to say that a more serious classic TMNT wouldn't have been awsome.

I'd love to see the last ones with Shredder and Krang again. That seems like it would have been a good balance. Dregg is too... too stiff. Great characters have flaws. Small ones and gaping ones. Dregg was kinda abusive to his hench men in one episode, but not in a funny or odd way.

Even the new Shredder on the new seris has more flaws about him, and the people around him.

BTW... doesn't mung look like a refugee from Labyrinth or Dark Crystal? And the dude has coat hangers on his head.

*Spitfire* · 09-27-2006, 06:29 PM

Mung's name alone always gave me the creeps. His face is a whole nother story

snake king · 09-27-2006, 10:18 PM

I know Dregg was boring villain,But he was bigger threat to the turtles than Shredder ever was.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-27-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by snake king

I know Dregg was boring villain,But he was bigger threat to the turtles than Shredder ever was.

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Reasons?

*VaughnMichael* · 09-28-2006, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

BTW... doesn't mung look like a refugee from Labyrinth or Dark Crystal? And the dude has coat hangers on his head.

yea he is very muppetish I think thats why I always liked him so much..man I always wanted a damn toy fo mung and lord dregg I still plan to make my own.

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PPPPFT.

Reasons?

My reasons why I like Lord Dregg and voted for him as much as I love old toon shredder.
He had more power.
He had more resources.
Had a space ship.
Had an evil henchman instead of being one.
Was smart enough to somehow even for a bit capture the turtles, April, carter, krang, and shredder.
He didn't give a damn about anyone but himself that was shown when he betrayed hi-tech and sent him off into space in a very small ship.
He messes with the turtles mutations as they are trying to fix themselves.
He betrayed Mung after the poor guy did so much for him and then stole hi micro bots.
He also took the lives of other aliens and put them into the exogenis merphoskelaton.
He tricked the human race into believing he was a good guy.
He wasn't looking for a fuel source in every episode.
Didn't have anyone talking down to him in every episode making him look like a fool.
He had that teliportation device which would allow him to transport parts of the sun to place.
He managed to make the earth go off it's access.
But I'm sure all in all had the series gone on long enough Dregg to would have become a bumbling idiot.

*Sage Ninja* · 09-28-2006, 02:04 PM

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My reasons why I like Lord Dregg and voted for him as much as I love old toon shredder.
He had more power.
He had more resources.
Had a space ship.
Had an evil henchman instead of being one.
Was smart enough to somehow even for a bit capture the turtles, April, carter, krang, and shredder.
He didn't give a damn about anyone but himself that was shown when he betrayed hi-tech and sent him off into space in a very small ship.
He messes with the turtles mutations as they are trying to fix themselves.
He betrayed Mung after the poor guy did so much for him and then stole hi micro bots.
He also took the lives of other aliens and put them into the exogenis merphoskelaton.
He tricked the human race into believing he was a good guy.
He wasn't looking for a fuel source in every episode.
Didn't have anyone talking down to him in every episode making him look like a fool.
He had that teliportation device which would allow him to transport parts of the sun to place.
He managed to make the earth go off it's access.
But I'm sure all in all had the series gone on long enough Dregg to would have become a bumbling idiot.

heh heh. He is basically the old toon version of Bishop. Now I'm wondering if the creators didn't have Dregg in mind when they created Bishop for the new show.

Brian · 10-17-2006, 10:30 PM

I'll pick Shredder.

**GK Punk** · 10-18-2006, 07:26 PM

How did I miss this one? Rob Van Dam for the win.

(The Tradition shall never die)

Lady Venus · 10-19-2006, 04:06 PM

The Shredder is better then Dregg!

OA · 10-19-2006, 04:53 PM

Yea...i think I'll give the nod to Shredder...Dregg was pretty bad, and maybe becuase there's more history with shredder that there is more to consider, as opposed to Dregg (not sure if that made sense- kinda sleepy...)...so yea, Shredder..

*cowabunga14* · 10-19-2006, 09:54 PM

I'm going with Shredder because I don't recall seeing Lord Dregg that often; he always seemed like a wimpy character to me.

I remember Shredder more than I do him probably cuz I didn't see many of the Red Sky episodes when I was younger.

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09-21-2006, 09:16 PM	#1
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09-23-2006, 02:07 PM	#3
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09-25-2006, 11:43 AM	#6
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	thats because the turtles never really tryed to kill shredder. Dregg was the bigger antagonist but Shredder...was Shredder. shrugs __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

09-26-2006, 03:03 PM	#7
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Shredder indefinately. Dregg seems like a filler character and basically like every single other lame overdone villain in cartoon history. Drgg had his momsents, but Shredder and Krang were better at being villains. They weren't too straight (as in straightman in a comic sketch) so they had more character and more depth to them. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

09-23-2006, 02:05 PM	#2
Bad Guys Lover Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 268	Shredder,of course

09-23-2006, 08:52 PM	#4
The Ninja Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 23	Dregg because he was a more serious villain and actually posed a bigger threat.

09-25-2006, 08:10 AM	#5
Space Lieutenant Josh Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Village of Rock'n Kick-Ass Posts: 492	Shredder ended up being a pretty scary dude, especially in the Red Sky episode where he blew up that building, but I don't think he ever got so close to killing the turtles that they needed to make the episode a 3-parter. I'll still give Shredder the nod over Dregg, though. He proved a lot tougher to kill.

09-26-2006, 03:43 PM	#8
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09-27-2006, 06:29 PM	#11
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09-27-2006, 10:18 PM	#12
snake king Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17	I know Dregg was boring villain,But he was bigger threat to the turtles than Shredder ever was.

10-17-2006, 10:30 PM	#16
Brian Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 181	I'll pick Shredder.

10-18-2006, 07:26 PM	#17
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	How did I miss this one? Rob Van Dam for the win. (The Tradition shall never die)

10-19-2006, 04:06 PM	#18
Lady Venus Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hangin' out in the Turtles' Lair Posts: 1,268	The Shredder is better then Dregg! __________________ RIP Mommy Angie! Se onr sverdar sitja hvass! (May your swords stay sharp!) - Eragon Sig made by: Joe

10-19-2006, 04:53 PM	#19
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Yea...i think I'll give the nod to Shredder...Dregg was pretty bad, and maybe becuase there's more history with shredder that there is more to consider, as opposed to Dregg (not sure if that made sense- kinda sleepy...)...so yea, Shredder.. __________________

10-19-2006, 09:54 PM	#20
cowabunga14 Lover of Weird Things Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,014	I'm going with Shredder because I don't recall seeing Lord Dregg that often; he always seemed like a wimpy character to me. I remember Shredder more than I do him probably cuz I didn't see many of the Red Sky episodes when I was younger. __________________ How can something so beautiful shine on something so dreadful?