The Shredder or Agent Bishop who the better antagonist.

snake king · 09-25-2006, 08:32 PM

We know that Shredder and Bishop are the two most formidable enimies of the turtles.Now which villains is the better antagonist.

~~Toonami Tom~~ · 09-25-2006, 08:38 PM

Shredder, without a doubt, hands down. He has been the focus since day 1, even before the turtles were mutated. There have been more battle with him, he has caused more problems. Even with utrom Shredder out of the picture, his legacy lives on with Karai, as well as the true Shredder that will be in the lost season.

onyx · 09-26-2006, 11:04 AM

Shredder.

He will always be my favorite villain. His appearance is better, his story is better, his voice is better, he fights better...

Spawn Guy · 09-26-2006, 11:50 AM

For a second I thought this was a "Who would win a fight" discussion. Shredder's got a stronger kind of hatred going on between himself and the guys. He's caused the most pain on a deeper and more personal level.

That said, he's a real easy charecter to figure out. He's just evil. Bishop had a lot more mystery.

But again, shiney bounces back because he looks cooler.

snake king · 09-27-2006, 09:33 PM

Bishop to me seen more misguided than evil. Shredder is just evil for the sake of being evil.

TheGreenMagic · 09-27-2006, 09:55 PM

Depends on what Shredder. Ch'rell was just pure evil and worked quite well as the unbeatable force of nature type of villain. His connection to the Utroms and thus in turn slight connection the Turtles' origin (as well as his killing Hamato Yoshi) made his conflict with the Turtles all the more personal. While his feud with the Turtles is no where near as deeproated as Ch'rell's was, Bishop's character has been fleshed out a lot more in comparison to the alien. Which does give him, at least in my viewpoint, better standing as an actual character. Maybe not as a direct adversary to the TMNT though.

Now the Karai Shredder is certainly close to Bishop in regards to being more than one evil sonuvagun. Time will tell what time of villain the original Shredder will turn out to be...

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09-25-2006, 08:32 PM	#1
snake king Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17	The Shredder or Agent Bishop who the better antagonist. We know that Shredder and Bishop are the two most formidable enimies of the turtles.Now which villains is the better antagonist.

09-26-2006, 11:04 AM	#3
onyx Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 232	Shredder. He will always be my favorite villain. His appearance is better, his story is better, his voice is better, he fights better... __________________

09-26-2006, 11:50 AM	#4
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	For a second I thought this was a "Who would win a fight" discussion. Shredder's got a stronger kind of hatred going on between himself and the guys. He's caused the most pain on a deeper and more personal level. That said, he's a real easy charecter to figure out. He's just evil. Bishop had a lot more mystery. But again, shiney bounces back because he looks cooler. __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

09-27-2006, 09:55 PM	#6
TheGreenMagic Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA Posts: 161	Depends on what Shredder. Ch'rell was just pure evil and worked quite well as the unbeatable force of nature type of villain. His connection to the Utroms and thus in turn slight connection the Turtles' origin (as well as his killing Hamato Yoshi) made his conflict with the Turtles all the more personal. While his feud with the Turtles is no where near as deeproated as Ch'rell's was, Bishop's character has been fleshed out a lot more in comparison to the alien. Which does give him, at least in my viewpoint, better standing as an actual character. Maybe not as a direct adversary to the TMNT though. Now the Karai Shredder is certainly close to Bishop in regards to being more than one evil sonuvagun. Time will tell what time of villain the original Shredder will turn out to be... __________________

09-25-2006, 08:38 PM	#2
~~Toonami Tom~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,939	Shredder, without a doubt, hands down. He has been the focus since day 1, even before the turtles were mutated. There have been more battle with him, he has caused more problems. Even with utrom Shredder out of the picture, his legacy lives on with Karai, as well as the true Shredder that will be in the lost season.

09-27-2006, 09:33 PM	#5
snake king Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17	Bishop to me seen more misguided than evil. Shredder is just evil for the sake of being evil.