TMNT Ep Discussion "Bad Blood"

*Raph's Girl* · 11-18-2006, 08:43 AM

No idea what this is about but there ya go...This ep airs Dec 2nd.

Bad Blood could mean several things... perhaps the Dark Turtles or another descendent of somebody from the past. Won't really know till the info is released. But nice to know that they're airing eps during the winter.

*CyberCubed* · 11-18-2006, 09:11 AM

So 4kids is apparently blowing through all 13 episodes before the end of the year.

That means we have to go from January through September with no new episodes. That's 8 friggin months of repeats.

Why in the world did 4kids split Fast Foward into two seasons instead of airing them altogether like they were supposed to? Do they honestly think an 8 month break of no new episodes will HELP this series?

This is going to send TMNT's already low ratings to the negative numbers.

*Spike Spiegel* · 11-18-2006, 09:35 AM

They just need to get DONE with Fast Forward already so that they can show more TMNT 2K3....that is why the ratings suck...and you know why else the ratings suck...?

Because 4Kids sucks @$$ through a straw.

*gobo* · 11-18-2006, 09:40 AM

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4Kids sucks @$$ through a straw.

Great scott, what lungs!

*Sage Ninja* · 11-18-2006, 10:45 AM

I thought the reason they pulled this FF stuff was because ratings where not up to par? That the network thought that by kiddifying the show that it would pull more of its target audiance.

*gobo* · 11-18-2006, 11:00 AM

I still think it would be unlikely for them not to premiere anything new when the movie hits... But, I could see someone making a deal to keep the market clear for only movie-related merchandise at that time. But, that would concern me in that it would suggest a lack of confidence in the film's merit.

I'm still hoping for The Lost Season before next Fall.

...because I dare to dream.

EDIT: Just realized, but this ep title is a good sign. Remember Bishop's debut ep? Until it aired, they were calling it "The New Guard". Since it was actually "New Blood", it is my guess that some self-righteous airhead thought that the word 'blood' was too much for kids. So, here FF is, and they're not trying to PC it to death? That's odd, to say the least.

*CyberCubed* · 11-18-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty McFly

They just need to get DONE with Fast Forward already so that they can show more TMNT 2K3....that is why the ratings suck...and you know why else the ratings suck...?

Because 4Kids sucks @$$ through a straw.

Actually the ratings for FF are pretty much the same or only slightly less than Seasons 1-4. This show has ALWAYS had poor ratings.

What I'm concerned about is an 8 month gap with no new episodes would probably kill interest in the show entirely. It's a terrible business tactic.

PrometheusUFO · 11-18-2006, 01:13 PM

Maybe they've decided to air The Lost Season after all and pushed back Fast Forward's second half..? And maybe if the ratings are good enough for it, they'll consider concluding the FF story and returning them home.

*gobo* · 11-18-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This show has ALWAYS had poor ratings.

That's what you get when one engaging epic series is surrounded by a sea of goofy fluff programming.

*Warhorse* · 11-18-2006, 07:22 PM

Why don't they scratch this whole Saturday mornings thing and place the Turtles on in primetime along with The Simpsons? Then they can beef up the fight scenes and not have to worry about sissy parents protests against the violence!

*Spitfire* · 11-18-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

Why don't they scratch this whole Saturday mornings thing and place the Turtles on in primetime along with The Simpsons? Then they can beef up the fight scenes and not have to worry about sissy parents protests against the violence!

Because the show is to adult for kids, and not adult enough for adults.

The show is more for Teens and all Teens watch are crap reality shows on MTV and Fox.

*Warhorse* · 11-18-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Because the show is to adult for kids, and not adult enough for adults.

The show is more for Teens and all Teens watch are crap reality shows on MTV and Fox.

Your statement makes absolutely no sense at all. Everyone I know who likes the Turtles and appreciates them are the adults, in their twenties and thirties mostly. But they are being severly shafted by the cartoon being "marketed" towards kids.

I think if they were to revamp the show and incorporate it in a more adult setting at a more adult time, the show would have unlimited possibilities.

But at the moment, it's severely hindered. The only people that are up in the weekend mornings are the little kids. Teenagers and adults are mostly sleeping in from staying up all night partying or watching "late night tv". And I find the Turtle story arcs more befitting for the older mind sets.

This is just my opinion, and I dont see why not test the franchise on the more adult scale. I think one of the reasons why the motion picture movie did so well was because it was not dumbed down for the kids. Why wouldn't the same scenario work for an animated version?

*Raph's Girl* · 11-18-2006, 10:17 PM

What are u guys talking about?? Lost Season is only 13 eps but FF is 26 eps. I haven't heard anything about them doing a hiatus thingy between eps.

*gobo* · 11-19-2006, 06:14 AM

Sorry, Warhorse. I have to ask, what makes you think an action 'toon with family tone would survive in Primetime? That's Crudeadulthumortime. It's existence would either go unnoticed or would be assimilated into the Crudeadulthumortime mold. Isn't that one of the complaints about FF, because it has too many retarded jokes?

*Chris* · 11-19-2006, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

What are u guys talking about?? Lost Season is only 13 eps but FF is 26 eps. I haven't heard anything about them doing a hiatus thingy between eps.

Murphy confirmed in another thread that the 26 episodes of Fast Forward have been split into two 13 episode seasons. With episodes 1-13 (Season 5) airing now and episodes 14-26 (Season 6) airing next Fall. At least that's the current schedule.

Since Lost Season isn't on the DVD schedule anymore I am wondering if they plan to air that next Spring around the time of the movie, but I'm not holding my breath.

Murphy also said that it's possible Ninja Tribunal could be aired as Season 7 in 2008 (assuming the TMNT return home at the end of Season 6) since when they return from the future the TMNT could be dropped at any point in time.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-19-2006, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Sorry, Warhorse. I have to ask, what makes you think an action 'toon with family tone would survive in Primetime? That's Crudeadulthumortime. It's existence would either go unnoticed or would be assimilated into the Crudeadulthumortime mold. Isn't that one of the complaints about FF, because it has too many retarded jokes?

yea as well all know how Fox is.

Poor Mikey would be the first to get Peter Griffin syndrom every week it'd be "this is worse than that time".
Codey would suddenly have a british accent because it's soooooo funny.

And Splinter well he could just lay around all day and watch t...v oh wait that is what they did to him hahah

Stephen · 11-19-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

That's 8 friggin months of repeats.

That's what it's like for us in the UK. They kept airing the same S4 episodes over and over for months, then eventually air a few new episodes, repeat for months, air a few more new episodes, repeat for months ect.

*Chris* · 11-19-2006, 10:07 AM

Must admit I gave up with the UK airings when the Season 4 set came out.

Just checked Radio Times and they're listing it as weekend mornings, with the latest listed being "Wing and a Prayer" on Dec 2nd. How far did the show make it in the end? Did CITV ever reach "Ninja Tribunal"?

*Warhorse* · 11-19-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Sorry, Warhorse. I have to ask, what makes you think an action 'toon with family tone would survive in Primetime? That's Crudeadulthumortime. It's existence would either go unnoticed or would be assimilated into the Crudeadulthumortime mold. Isn't that one of the complaints about FF, because it has too many retarded jokes?

I don't understand why people are putting me down because I just would like to see TMNT be placed in a more mature time scale. And I don't mean of a South Park venue. Maybe the new style of an action, in depth animated feature would be one "shell" of a shock to the industry by placing the toon on, say, 8:00 pm on a Friday night. It will be different tone of pace from the usual crude humor, and maybe a lot of people will like this change.

Why don't they take some of the story arcs from the first season of the 2003 series and place them on in the evenings, say for the summer. Just to see how things do? Can't do any worse than some of the shows that have managed to stay afloat for the last couple of years.

I just don't see the problem with trying. You'll never know how something will do if you dont try. And what didn't work for one thing certaintly doesn't mean that will be the same outcome for everything.

*gobo* · 11-19-2006, 12:04 PM

I wasn't trying to insult you, Warhorse. I wish it could work that way myself. But, since the show would need to change hands to a group that handles Primetime programming, it would quickly transformed into something less favorable than what we have now.

11-18-2006, 08:43 AM	#1
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	TMNT Ep Discussion "Bad Blood" No idea what this is about but there ya go...This ep airs Dec 2nd. Bad Blood could mean several things... perhaps the Dark Turtles or another descendent of somebody from the past. Won't really know till the info is released. But nice to know that they're airing eps during the winter. __________________

11-18-2006, 10:45 AM	#5
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11-18-2006, 11:00 AM	#6
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I still think it would be unlikely for them not to premiere anything new when the movie hits... But, I could see someone making a deal to keep the market clear for only movie-related merchandise at that time. But, that would concern me in that it would suggest a lack of confidence in the film's merit. I'm still hoping for The Lost Season before next Fall. ...because I dare to dream. EDIT: Just realized, but this ep title is a good sign. Remember Bishop's debut ep? Until it aired, they were calling it "The New Guard". Since it was actually "New Blood", it is my guess that some self-righteous airhead thought that the word 'blood' was too much for kids. So, here FF is, and they're not trying to PC it to death? That's odd, to say the least. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell. Last edited by gobo; 11-18-2006 at 12:05 PM.

11-18-2006, 10:17 PM	#13
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	What are u guys talking about?? Lost Season is only 13 eps but FF is 26 eps. I haven't heard anything about them doing a hiatus thingy between eps. __________________

11-19-2006, 06:14 AM	#14
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Sorry, Warhorse. I have to ask, what makes you think an action 'toon with family tone would survive in Primetime? That's Crudeadulthumortime. It's existence would either go unnoticed or would be assimilated into the Crudeadulthumortime mold. Isn't that one of the complaints about FF, because it has too many retarded jokes? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

11-18-2006, 09:11 AM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,695	So 4kids is apparently blowing through all 13 episodes before the end of the year. That means we have to go from January through September with no new episodes. That's 8 friggin months of repeats. Why in the world did 4kids split Fast Foward into two seasons instead of airing them altogether like they were supposed to? Do they honestly think an 8 month break of no new episodes will HELP this series? This is going to send TMNT's already low ratings to the negative numbers.

11-18-2006, 01:13 PM	#8
PrometheusUFO Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 249	Maybe they've decided to air The Lost Season after all and pushed back Fast Forward's second half..? And maybe if the ratings are good enough for it, they'll consider concluding the FF story and returning them home.

11-18-2006, 07:22 PM	#10
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Why don't they scratch this whole Saturday mornings thing and place the Turtles on in primetime along with The Simpsons? Then they can beef up the fight scenes and not have to worry about sissy parents protests against the violence!

11-19-2006, 10:07 AM	#18
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	Must admit I gave up with the UK airings when the Season 4 set came out. Just checked Radio Times and they're listing it as weekend mornings, with the latest listed being "Wing and a Prayer" on Dec 2nd. How far did the show make it in the end? Did CITV ever reach "Ninja Tribunal"?

11-19-2006, 12:04 PM	#20
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I wasn't trying to insult you, Warhorse. I wish it could work that way myself. But, since the show would need to change hands to a group that handles Primetime programming, it would quickly transformed into something less favorable than what we have now. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.