Minor things bugging me about the new TMNT

avervisal · 01-14-2003, 03:58 PM

Don't get me wrong, I am TOTALLY psyched up for the new show, but several things are bothering me:

1) I'm scared that it won't appeal to me as it did when I was a kid

2) The sketches look eerily like the Jackie Chan cartoon drawing styles (has anyone else noticed this?) This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it just doesn't feel unique.

3) A sudden surge in TMNT websites backed up by webmasters who don't truly know about TMNT. I have noticed that this happens way too often in other TV series' (Dragonball Z, Pokemon, etc). These sites don't have much useful information and they're all similar in the end. All the TMNT websites right now are extremely unique and tubular

(technodrome, undermanhattan, etc)

What do you guys think about this? Leave some love...

Will

tmntpower2003 · 01-14-2003, 04:01 PM

Nothing is really bugging me, and if you are psyched now and the show hasn't even started don't you think youll be more amped once it starts?

Aztec General · 01-14-2003, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by avervisal

Don't get me wrong, I am TOTALLY psyched up for the new show, but several things are bothering me:

1) I'm scared that it won't appeal to me as it did when I was a kid

2) The sketches look eerily like the Jackie Chan cartoon drawing styles (has anyone else noticed this?) This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it just doesn't feel unique.

3) A sudden surge in TMNT websites backed up by webmasters who don't truly know about TMNT. I have noticed that this happens way too often in other TV series' (Dragonball Z, Pokemon, etc). These sites don't have much useful information and they're all similar in the end. All the TMNT websites right now are extremely unique and tubular

(technodrome, undermanhattan, etc)

What do you guys think about this? Leave some love...

Will

1) Well as a child different things appealed to you. When you were younger you liked a goofy comedy show. I'd imagine now you'd like to see something with a little more substance?

2) That's probably because Dong Woo (the production company that is making the TMNT) also makes Jackie Chan Adventures

3) More TMNT websites a problem? How? That tells me that there is interest out there, and that's a good thing. You consider undermanhattan a good website? It hasn't been updated in like 4 months.

avervisal · 01-14-2003, 04:14 PM

Yeah...you both have good points there. It's just that when The Next Gen came out I was really excited about it and then after watching it I was kinda like "bleh.." and I don't want that to happen again.

Rat King, thanks for the info on Dong Woo.

As for website, I guess I wouldn't MIND more tmnt websites...it's just that once it gets sooo popular there will many websites that all seem the same (except different in layout) and it will all get monotonous. I am satisfied by the scarce amount of tmnt websites that we have right now. They are all original in their own way. UM hasn't been updated in 4 months, but it definitely has some original sections like Tokka's comix to back a reader up for a while, as opposed to nextgen website with basic info about the tmnt.

Oh well, that's just my own personal opnion...I'm not sure if I'm conveying my point properly. I hope you guys understand what I'm tryin to say!

William

**Kali** · 01-14-2003, 06:51 PM

I understand the website thing. There are already lots of websites that all have the same exact profiles and information on the Turtles. I personally like the sites that present fanworks, or take a unique twist on the information, or specializes on an overlooked area of TMNT.

Psycrow · 01-14-2003, 06:55 PM

I personally like to hang out at the sites with a good community. I find that I'll return to a site if there is a good community, or even a community there in the first place! I find sites aren't that appealing if they don't have a message board/chat function that you can't express your opinions with other people that share the same interests.

avervisal · 01-14-2003, 07:02 PM

And now after making such a fuss about the whole website ordeal, I have an urge to make one myself! Haha of course if I did I would try my best not to contradict what I just said...

beaker · 01-14-2003, 08:02 PM

Yeah, it does have that animation style approaching Jackie Chan. Lets just all vbe happy its not being done in that KIDDY anime style, the crappy Hanna Barbara 60's style that spopular(Teamo Supremo, Power Puff, Dexter's Lab, etc) or the even more horrific American comic hero animation(The Avengeres, Stargate, Mummy, etc)

But you know, I am very excited about this. I really dig the character designs. Yeah they are minimalist, but theres something cool about em. Anyways, I wont judge til Ive seen a few episodes next month.

As for websites...I just wish sites could pretend the whole Archie comic thing never happened. Its embarassing to go to the official TMNT site and see the kiddified Archie comics motif and Archie looking comic strips so plentiful there. Even when I was 11 in the late 80's I preferred the darker, original look to that over kiddified garbage. Thank goodness at last the first film reflected this.

*Jephael* · 01-15-2003, 09:53 AM

I thought the Archie TMNT comics were great! It was even better than the cartoon itself. It was atleast better when it started going for the edgy stuff like its Mirage counterpart.

tekcop · 01-15-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by beaker

I just wish sites could pretend the whole Archie comic thing never happened.

So... I take it you've never actually read the Archie series...

**Karpo_007** · 01-15-2003, 10:17 AM

Well Both arhie and the cartoon were made to bring TMNT to the children. Archie was better at that.

I don't understand why you are saying it shouldn't have excisted. Neither archie or the cartoon affected Mirage.

**azure turtle** · 01-15-2003, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

I don't understand why you are saying it shouldn't have excisted. Neither archie or the cartoon affected Mirage.

I'm pretty sure that the cartoon and the Archies series helped Mirage. TMNT is so awesome because they appeal to a wide audience... kids, teens, and adults alike.

**Karpo_007** · 01-16-2003, 02:54 AM

Well they got money from it, But I don't think that any kids switched to Mirage after seeing the cartoon...

beaker · 01-16-2003, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tekcop

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Originally Posted by beaker

I just wish sites could pretend the whole Archie comic thing never happened.

So... I take it you've never actually read the Archie series...

Oh indeed, when I was 11 I was checking out the Archie series...yet by that time I had found the great art in the Mirage series and the RPGS. Anyone ever seen the painted art for those late 80's RPG books? Wow.

Anyways, the above comment was how I see a lot of site adopting the Archie TMNT motif, instead of a moder modern or original TMNT look. Surely Im not the only one who prefers a more interesting TMNT look than the Archie style.

avervisal · 01-16-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Well they got money from it, But I don't think that any kids switched to Mirage after seeing the cartoon...

I eventually got interested in the Mirage and Image versions although my "origins" are in the Archie series. I think it all depended on the timing of it all, what age you were at the time when you first got involved etc.

Will

Domo · 01-17-2003, 04:57 PM

I think that anyone who knows of both the darker versions of TMNT as well as the more kid-oriented ones consider them two different realities. They don't just act like one doesn't really exist because its different. They appretiate both for what they are, two vastly different series.

*Nickokapo* · 01-17-2003, 05:02 PM

True, they're all quite different universes, but i like em all...some less than others but still..
Talkin' bout the rpg books, anyone seen the comic in palladium's tmnt & other strangeness, when the tmnt are in an apartament and some thiefs try to rob it...was that comic made exclusively for the rpg book or was it taken from a mirage comic issue?

**Karpo_007** · 01-17-2003, 05:40 PM

I think the RPG books had exclusive stories.

01-14-2003, 03:58 PM	#1
avervisal Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: IL Posts: 452	Minor things bugging me about the new TMNT Don't get me wrong, I am TOTALLY psyched up for the new show, but several things are bothering me: 1) I'm scared that it won't appeal to me as it did when I was a kid 2) The sketches look eerily like the Jackie Chan cartoon drawing styles (has anyone else noticed this?) This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it just doesn't feel unique. 3) A sudden surge in TMNT websites backed up by webmasters who don't truly know about TMNT. I have noticed that this happens way too often in other TV series' (Dragonball Z, Pokemon, etc). These sites don't have much useful information and they're all similar in the end. All the TMNT websites right now are extremely unique and tubular (technodrome, undermanhattan, etc) What do you guys think about this? Leave some love... Will __________________ Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

01-14-2003, 04:14 PM	#4
avervisal Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: IL Posts: 452	Yeah...you both have good points there. It's just that when The Next Gen came out I was really excited about it and then after watching it I was kinda like "bleh.." and I don't want that to happen again. Rat King, thanks for the info on Dong Woo. As for website, I guess I wouldn't MIND more tmnt websites...it's just that once it gets sooo popular there will many websites that all seem the same (except different in layout) and it will all get monotonous. I am satisfied by the scarce amount of tmnt websites that we have right now. They are all original in their own way. UM hasn't been updated in 4 months, but it definitely has some original sections like Tokka's comix to back a reader up for a while, as opposed to nextgen website with basic info about the tmnt. Oh well, that's just my own personal opnion...I'm not sure if I'm conveying my point properly. I hope you guys understand what I'm tryin to say! William __________________ Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

01-14-2003, 06:55 PM	#6
Psycrow Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 435	I personally like to hang out at the sites with a good community. I find that I'll return to a site if there is a good community, or even a community there in the first place! I find sites aren't that appealing if they don't have a message board/chat function that you can't express your opinions with other people that share the same interests. __________________ "Before you criticize others you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away... and you have their shoes."

01-14-2003, 07:02 PM	#7
avervisal Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: IL Posts: 452	And now after making such a fuss about the whole website ordeal, I have an urge to make one myself! Haha of course if I did I would try my best not to contradict what I just said... __________________ Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

01-14-2003, 08:02 PM	#8
beaker Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 483	Yeah, it does have that animation style approaching Jackie Chan. Lets just all vbe happy its not being done in that KIDDY anime style, the crappy Hanna Barbara 60's style that spopular(Teamo Supremo, Power Puff, Dexter's Lab, etc) or the even more horrific American comic hero animation(The Avengeres, Stargate, Mummy, etc) But you know, I am very excited about this. I really dig the character designs. Yeah they are minimalist, but theres something cool about em. Anyways, I wont judge til Ive seen a few episodes next month. As for websites...I just wish sites could pretend the whole Archie comic thing never happened. Its embarassing to go to the official TMNT site and see the kiddified Archie comics motif and Archie looking comic strips so plentiful there. Even when I was 11 in the late 80's I preferred the darker, original look to that over kiddified garbage. Thank goodness at last the first film reflected this. __________________ .:\\.:beaker:.//:. let the 80's entropy begin!

01-14-2003, 04:01 PM	#2
tmntpower2003 Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gotham City Posts: 418	Nothing is really bugging me, and if you are psyched now and the show hasn't even started don't you think youll be more amped once it starts?

01-14-2003, 06:51 PM	#5
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	I understand the website thing. There are already lots of websites that all have the same exact profiles and information on the Turtles. I personally like the sites that present fanworks, or take a unique twist on the information, or specializes on an overlooked area of TMNT.

01-15-2003, 09:53 AM	#9
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,142	I thought the Archie TMNT comics were great! It was even better than the cartoon itself. It was atleast better when it started going for the edgy stuff like its Mirage counterpart. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

01-15-2003, 10:17 AM	#11
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well Both arhie and the cartoon were made to bring TMNT to the children. Archie was better at that. I don't understand why you are saying it shouldn't have excisted. Neither archie or the cartoon affected Mirage.

01-16-2003, 02:54 AM	#13
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well they got money from it, But I don't think that any kids switched to Mirage after seeing the cartoon...

01-17-2003, 04:57 PM	#16
Domo Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 45	I think that anyone who knows of both the darker versions of TMNT as well as the more kid-oriented ones consider them two different realities. They don't just act like one doesn't really exist because its different. They appretiate both for what they are, two vastly different series.

01-17-2003, 05:02 PM	#17
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,800	True, they're all quite different universes, but i like em all...some less than others but still.. Talkin' bout the rpg books, anyone seen the comic in palladium's tmnt & other strangeness, when the tmnt are in an apartament and some thiefs try to rob it...was that comic made exclusively for the rpg book or was it taken from a mirage comic issue? __________________

01-17-2003, 05:40 PM	#18
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I think the RPG books had exclusive stories.