Peter David on Dreamwave TMNT

**Karpo_007** · 01-19-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter David

Yes. It's true. I've been approached by Dreamwave about doing a new "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" series tying in with the new animated TV show. And I said I would do it because, frankly, my kids wouldn't have it any other way. My three elder daughters are huge TMNT fans (Caroline hasn't weighed in with an opinion) and made it clear there would be dire--DIRE--consequences if I passed up the opportunity.

Further details will be forthcoming as soon as Dreamwave irons out the final kinks with the Turtles folks.

The article can be found here: http://peterdavid.malibulist.com/gmlog/00000248.html

Unfortunately, It doesn't tell much, But I still fear it will be a children's comic...

Sparvid · 01-19-2003, 05:34 AM

Posted at Newsarama, when someone complained that the now show probably would be as "kiddified" as the old cartoon:

Peter David:

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Well, I'm in a slightly better position to judge, having read the bible and the first four scripts. Based on that, I would strongly disagree with your assessment. In terms of how it will differ, I leave to the Turtle guys to be specific (saying as much or as little as they wish), but the tone is *much* more evocative of the original comic series than the previous animated show was.

And then:

LeSean Thomas:

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I'll have to agree with Pete myself, i was originally to be hired in the layout department for this series back home in NYC (its a first for it to be produced "in House" here in NYC) and i know the stories of only the first 2 episodes and have seen the model sheets and its gonna be pretty cool. if you're a fan of the turtles that is.

i can only imagine ol' Pete will put quite a spin on them, the same way he did with another "green mutation" back in the early 90's

should be fun........

**Karpo_007** · 01-19-2003, 05:39 AM

Well yeah we know that the new cartoon is more mature than the old one, But it still kiddiefied version of Mirage. And if the Comic will be heavily based on the show, Then it will be that way too. Personally Im waiting for something like Ultimate Spider-man or Gotham Knights...

Any idea when the comic is coming out?

MzTheInsomniac · 01-19-2003, 10:54 AM

it seems we have created a new word "kiddified"

Raphael-sama · 01-19-2003, 11:31 AM

Argh. Next person to say that damned word or even refer to it is getting their eyeballs ripped out by my sais. Rar!

Greed · 01-19-2003, 11:47 AM

Cidiefied there its kinda differnt

Aztec General · 01-19-2003, 11:58 AM

Well I must give props to Beaker for breaking this story first. I'm hoping with all of you that it is a good serious comic. I really think that the days of "kiddified" TMNT are over. I'm hoping (and judging from the episode descriptions we are going to get) a show that is "suitable for kids" but not "written for kids". There is a tremendous difference between those two phrases. From what I can gather from Peter Laird he wants to bury the "kiddified" image more than anyone else. I can't say I blame him.

**Karpo_007** · 01-19-2003, 03:28 PM

I know what you mean. Like Batman TAS, Bot adults and kids loved the show. I have high expetations for this show, and new comic too. I hope it will turn out as a serious comic.

*Bry* · 01-19-2003, 04:44 PM

"Kiddified Mirage"?

Well, it kinda has to be, doesn't it? This is a show mainly intended for kids and preteens. Not exactly the best demographic for ninjas being impaled on swords and having their heads lopped off, now is it?

The tone is what matters. The old cartoon took the TMNT and made them goofy. The new one won't. 'Nuff said?

**Karpo_007** · 01-19-2003, 04:47 PM

Yeah we know that show is kiddiefied Mirage, but we are hoping that the comic would be more like "Ultimate Spider-man" and such.

*Bry* · 01-19-2003, 04:51 PM

Well, the new comic is supposed to be based on the cartoon, right? So it stands to reason they'll be extremely similar.

I'd like to see an "Ultimate TMNT" too, though. I've actually had a whole bunch of ideas for a title like that in the past month...

**Karpo_007** · 01-19-2003, 04:52 PM

We will just have to see how it turns out.

beaker · 01-21-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rat King

Well I must give props to Beaker for breaking this story first. I'm hoping with all of you that it is a good serious comic. I really think that the days of "kiddified" TMNT are over. I'm hoping (and judging from the episode descriptions we are going to get) a show that is "suitable for kids" but not "written for kids". There is a tremendous difference between those two phrases. From what I can gather from Peter Laird he wants to bury the "kiddified" image more than anyone else. I can't say I blame him.

Agreed. The days of the goofy Archie image TMNT(which unfortunately still adorns every darn page of the sorry official site) are long gone. The new cartoon, and Im hoping the new comic...has a definate more edge, anime look than ever before. I am so glad they decided to go with this modern look, and not down that Transformers Pokemon route. Do you know how easy it would have been for them to Pokemon TMNT up like they did with TF?

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 03:07 AM

Yes, but the diffrence is, Peter Laird is now the "creative Director" of the show, won't allow it to turn like the old cartoon did after first season. But still we don't know waht the new comic will be like. Direct adaption of the show or something like "Ultimate Spider-man". I think the latter would be great, I like how the Ultimate Spider-man brough the story to todays world, and is diffrent version of the Amazing Spider-man. I love both.

If something like that happened to the TMNT, that would be a dream. But as it is show based, it might rule out the possibility of death, and so it would be impossibel for it to become "Ultimate-TMNT".

*heretic888* · 01-21-2003, 12:07 PM

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The days of the goofy Archie image TMNT

Question: have you even READ the archie series at all??

They were most certainly NOT 'goofy', particularly the later issues.

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 12:15 PM

Well they weren't as goofy as cartoon, no by far, but they had much more humor than Mirage series. Still It is a good children's comic, I really liked it.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 01-21-2003, 01:12 PM

The Archie were great... still had the humor that I expected with the TMNT but with an overall more adult tone...

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 01:21 PM

Defintely more mature than the cartoon. If mirage was from ages of 12-... Archie could have been like 8-12.

**HorseTechie** · 01-21-2003, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNTmz87

it seems we have created a new word "kiddified"

Well, as long as they don't "chibify" anything, I'm all cool with it!

beaker · 01-21-2003, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by heretic888

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The days of the goofy Archie image TMNT

They were most certainly NOT 'goofy', particularly the later issues.

Unfortunately. I remember when I was 11 getting it for a few issues, than realizes it wasnt even close to the Mirage series I had just discovered in the back issue racks.

01-19-2003, 10:54 AM	#4
MzTheInsomniac Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Daaaaaaayton O hi O Posts: 680	it seems we have created a new word "kiddified" __________________ www.wheeljack.com BEETCH GO THERE!!!!

01-19-2003, 11:31 AM	#5
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	Argh. Next person to say that damned word or even refer to it is getting their eyeballs ripped out by my sais. Rar! __________________ -Badabing.

01-19-2003, 11:47 AM	#6
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	Cidiefied there its kinda differnt __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

01-19-2003, 11:58 AM	#7
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Well I must give props to Beaker for breaking this story first. I'm hoping with all of you that it is a good serious comic. I really think that the days of "kiddified" TMNT are over. I'm hoping (and judging from the episode descriptions we are going to get) a show that is "suitable for kids" but not "written for kids". There is a tremendous difference between those two phrases. From what I can gather from Peter Laird he wants to bury the "kiddified" image more than anyone else. I can't say I blame him. __________________

01-19-2003, 04:44 PM	#9
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	"Kiddified Mirage"? Well, it kinda has to be, doesn't it? This is a show mainly intended for kids and preteens. Not exactly the best demographic for ninjas being impaled on swords and having their heads lopped off, now is it? The tone is what matters. The old cartoon took the TMNT and made them goofy. The new one won't. 'Nuff said? __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon

01-19-2003, 05:39 AM	#3
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well yeah we know that the new cartoon is more mature than the old one, But it still kiddiefied version of Mirage. And if the Comic will be heavily based on the show, Then it will be that way too. Personally Im waiting for something like Ultimate Spider-man or Gotham Knights... Any idea when the comic is coming out?

01-19-2003, 03:28 PM	#8
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I know what you mean. Like Batman TAS, Bot adults and kids loved the show. I have high expetations for this show, and new comic too. I hope it will turn out as a serious comic.

01-19-2003, 04:47 PM	#10
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah we know that show is kiddiefied Mirage, but we are hoping that the comic would be more like "Ultimate Spider-man" and such.

01-19-2003, 04:51 PM	#11
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	Well, the new comic is supposed to be based on the cartoon, right? So it stands to reason they'll be extremely similar. I'd like to see an "Ultimate TMNT" too, though. I've actually had a whole bunch of ideas for a title like that in the past month... __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon

01-19-2003, 04:52 PM	#12
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	We will just have to see how it turns out.

01-21-2003, 03:07 AM	#14
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yes, but the diffrence is, Peter Laird is now the "creative Director" of the show, won't allow it to turn like the old cartoon did after first season. But still we don't know waht the new comic will be like. Direct adaption of the show or something like "Ultimate Spider-man". I think the latter would be great, I like how the Ultimate Spider-man brough the story to todays world, and is diffrent version of the Amazing Spider-man. I love both. If something like that happened to the TMNT, that would be a dream. But as it is show based, it might rule out the possibility of death, and so it would be impossibel for it to become "Ultimate-TMNT".

01-21-2003, 12:15 PM	#16
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well they weren't as goofy as cartoon, no by far, but they had much more humor than Mirage series. Still It is a good children's comic, I really liked it.

01-21-2003, 01:12 PM	#17
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	The Archie were great... still had the humor that I expected with the TMNT but with an overall more adult tone... __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

01-21-2003, 01:21 PM	#18
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Defintely more mature than the cartoon. If mirage was from ages of 12-... Archie could have been like 8-12.