Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

~~Tokka-B~~ · 01-19-2003, 05:15 PM

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, by J.K. Rowling, the fifth in the bestselling series has been scheduled for release on Saturday, June 21, 2003...
"We are thrilled to announce the publication date. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is absolutely superb and will delight all J.K. Rowling's fans. She has written a brilliant and utterly compelling new adventure, which begins with the words:

"The hottest day of the summer so far was drawing to a close and a drowsy silence lay over the large, square houses of Privet Drive.... The only person left outside was a teenage boy who was lying flat on his back in a flowerbed outside number four.
"Later in the novel, J.K.Rowling writes:

"Dumbledore lowered his hands and surveyed Harry through his half-moon glasses. 'It is time,' he said 'for me to tell you what I should have told you five years ago, Harry. Please sit down. I am going to tell you everything.'
-Barbara Marcus, President of Scholastic Children's Books in the United States, and Nigel Newton, Chief Executive of Bloomsbury Publishing in Britain

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is over 255,000 words compared to over l9l,000 words in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. The new book is 38 chapters long, one more than Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Wow, I sure can't wait for this one... Any of you guys HP fans?!

**Information courtesy of amazon.com**

*Mr. Snackpants* · 01-19-2003, 06:05 PM

I am. I can't wait for that book to come out. Sound like a good book and its long

. The quote "Dumbledore lowered his hands and surveyed Harry through his half-moon glasses. 'It is time,' he said 'for me to tell you what I should have told you five years ago, Harry. Please sit down. I am going to tell you everything.' is very interesting. Wonder what hes talking about

(want it out now!!!!)

~~Tokka-B~~ · 01-19-2003, 06:23 PM

I can't wait...I am guessing it has to do with harry's past or something, OR some kind of power or something within him he never knew he had...

Yea, this is damn long...only one chapter longer, but about a third larger...If the 4th one was bigger than the second and third ones combined...you can imagine how large this book is going to be or how much it will weigh, lmao...

**Kali** · 01-19-2003, 06:27 PM

Yeah, those books do seem to keep getting longer and longer, don't they? Well, I'll definitely be picking it up... as soon as it's in paperback.

*Mr. Snackpants* · 01-19-2003, 07:31 PM

yeah its probably about his past. Maybe something to do with his parents?? I dunno just a thought. Im glad theyre long. Her books are indepth, its awsome. How big will 5 and 6 be if they keep getting larger and larger???

Shellfox · 01-19-2003, 07:35 PM

Some whaat off topic, but any word who'll take up the role of Dumbledroff in the new movies, heard a lot of rumors (the one about Magneto/Gandalf doing it came out in a tabliod and has no truth to it from what I've heard)

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 01-19-2003, 08:35 PM

As an avid Harry Potter fan, I cannot wait for the fifth book to come out in June. I can't believe the fourth book was released three years ago! It doesn't seem like it's been such a long time, but in other ways, it seems like that was forever ago.

I like the fact that the books keep getting longer and longer. That just means the plots are thickening and thickening!

The fourth book, obviously the longest one, was by far my favorite. The only things I hope that don't happen by the end of the series are:

1) We don't get some Star Wars ending where Lord Voldemort really ends up being Harry's father, and that's why young Potter can speak to snakes and why the Sorting Hat thought he'd make the perfect Slytherin.

2) Dumbledore doesn't end up being a bad guy. I don't know why I think this, but it would be the ultimate swerve to make him a bad guy all along, and then not reveal it until the very end. I would hate that.

But tell me that the following passages from the fourth book on page 696 don't sound suspicious:

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"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said the protection my - my mother left me - he'd have it too. And he was right - he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."

For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes. But next second, Harry was sure he had imagined it, for when Dumbledore had returned to his seat behind the desk, he looked as old and weary as Harry had ever seen him.

"Very well," he said, sitting down again. "Voldemort has overcome that particular barrier. Harry, continue, please."

----------

Now was there a gleam of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes because he was happy that Voldemort had broken through Harry Potter's defense? If he's a bad guy all along, it looks like he momentarily let it show because he sure seems happy to hear the news. I'm wondering if this isn't a subtle but valuable hint of things to come. And then Dumbledore has to calm himself down as to not make it obvious: "Very well. Voldemort has overcome that particular barrier." All the while thinking, however . . . Yes!

I don't know. Maybe I'm over-speculating. Maybe that paragraph has a whole other meaning. But when I read those passages, a bunch of red flags went up.

What do you guys think?

"D'you - d'you want to go to the ball with me?" said Harry. Why did he have to go red now? Why?
"Oh!" said Cho, and she went red too. "Oh Harry, I'm really sorry," and she truly looked it. "I've already said I'll go with someone else."

From "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire"

~~Tokka-B~~ · 01-19-2003, 08:53 PM

Heh, shredhead, i just told you how long book 5 will be, lol.

Anyway, good speculations NTCF! I saw that too and got a little curious, but it may be a trick from Rowling, she pulls a lot of these, which makes the books interesting... It could mean something like Dumbledore just found out that only harry's blood can make him stronger or something...I don't know...but it is a little strange...It was a surprise enough when Fudge was getting pissed off at Dumbledore...and they had the parting of the ways, I really don't think Dumbledore will let us down...heh.

Also, about the Star Wars thing, I just highly doubt that will happen...JK Rowling will probably come up with some really clever way to finish off the book, it wouldn't be like her to make something that overused...If Voldemort was his father, who was James and Lily Potter?

Another thing I can't wait to find out is how quidditch is going to be. Since Wood isn't there, gryffindor needs a new keeper and captain, I wonder who it will be..Other teams need replacements to such as Marcus Flint not there anymore either. I also can't wait to see what happens with the relationship with Snape and Dumbledore this book...it is all going to be very interesting...Remember at the end of the 4th book Dumbledore assigns Snape to do something important, which he knew about? I really want to know what that was...heh Other things that could happen is someone we know may be a prefect...they probly will take the O.W.L's test. Oh well, now it all is coming back to me which means I am going to go mad crazy waiting the next few months...oh well
NTCF, you were right, it didn't seem that long at all....part of it is probly due to the fact most people gave up waiting for it, LOL.

*Mr. Snackpants* · 01-20-2003, 07:29 PM

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Tokka:Heh, shredhead, i just told you how long book 5 will be, lol.

I meant 6 and 7

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**Kali** · 01-20-2003, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan

2) Dumbledore doesn't end up being a bad guy. I don't know why I think this, but it would be the ultimate swerve to make him a bad guy all along, and then not reveal it until the very end. I would hate that.

But tell me that the following passages from the fourth book on page 696 don't sound suspicious:
<snip>
Now was there a gleam of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes because he was happy that Voldemort had broken through Harry Potter's defense?
What do you guys think?

I personally think that Dumbledore could possibly be happy about knowing exactly WHAT gave Voldemort his power. If you know the source of your enemy's power, you can use that to your advantage.

Though I wouldn't be at all surprised if he had some ulterior motive.

SeaThreePeeO · 01-21-2003, 04:20 PM

YAY!

I can't wait!

It has been so long coming, however, I think I'll have to re-read the other books to know what's going on LOL

When all this Harry Potter hype first started I wanted nothing to do with it. I was only by chance that my mother bought Ana, my daughter the film on dvd. I sat and watched it and then made a promise to myself that I would read all of the Harry Potter books.

I am so glad I did, as it has awakened a love of reading in me and opened the door to many other interesting and exciting novels

*heretic888* · 01-21-2003, 05:07 PM

Mike could kick Dumbledorf's ass.

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 05:11 PM

I honestlu don't get what people see in Harry Potter. I haven't read any of the books, But I have watched the first Movie. I tought it was VERY broing. My little sister, who is a huge Potter fan thinks that movie is great... Well these are the biggest mysteries in life...

Raphael-sama · 01-21-2003, 06:10 PM

The two movies are crap. I'll get that out of the way right now.

As for the new book: FINALLY! I haven't had anything to read since I finished off The Hobbit a little while back. The Harry Potter books are damn good reading, and getting alot deeper as they go along as well. These last three books are going to be very interesting...

I still think The Lord of the Ring is better though.

*Mr. Snackpants* · 01-21-2003, 07:49 PM

I dont think the movies were crap, well the first one was crap. It was very boring and in my opinion the first book was the worst of the four. But I like the 2nd movie. It was a lot more interesting and had much more action. The Harry Potter books are the best books ive ever read

~~Tokka-B~~ · 01-21-2003, 07:57 PM

Karpo, it is rediculous to say Harry Potter is crap and you don't know what all the hype is about when you haven't even read the books yourself. The movies are a very poor indication as to what Harry Potter is like. I really suggest actually reading the books instead of bashing people's opinions on which you have no right to.

Yea, the last books are supposed to be a lot darker too, so it will be very interesting as raphael-sama has said.

*heretic888* · 01-21-2003, 08:10 PM

id like to see Raph give that Potter kid a good thrashing.

Prowl · 01-21-2003, 08:14 PM

I used to wonder what the hype was about. I remember lining up to see a movie and seeing the line at the bookstore next door (people waiting for book 4). And I wondered what the big deal was. Then I took a chance and read it. I can't wait for book 5. And the thing is, I really enjoyed the movie, because it took me back to the book, but it could never replace the read, just help remember key points. Book 3 and 4 are insane.

Edit: Garry Oldman as Black....Man I hope so.

SeaThreePeeO · 01-22-2003, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heretic888

id like to see Raph give that Potter kid a good thrashing.

Admit it heretic, you'd like to see anyone give anyone a good thrashing LOL!

**Kali** · 01-22-2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

I honestlu don't get what people see in Harry Potter. I haven't read any of the books, But I have watched the first Movie. I tought it was VERY broing. My little sister, who is a huge Potter fan thinks that movie is great... Well these are the biggest mysteries in life...

I have to agree the the first movie was boring (haven't seen the second yet.) But like with most book adapted movies, the books are WAY better. You're always saying how people shouldn't judge TMNT based on the movies and cartoon, and that they should read the Mirage comics. Well, take your own advice and read the Potter books. You don't need to buy the $20 hardback special-of-the-week ones, cheap used paperbacks are okay. Even get them from a library if you can.

I used to think the Harry Potter craze was stupid too, but then I got curious and read the books. I'm not an obessed fan, I just like well-written stories.

01-19-2003, 05:15 PM	#1
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, by J.K. Rowling, the fifth in the bestselling series has been scheduled for release on Saturday, June 21, 2003... "We are thrilled to announce the publication date. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is absolutely superb and will delight all J.K. Rowling's fans. She has written a brilliant and utterly compelling new adventure, which begins with the words: "The hottest day of the summer so far was drawing to a close and a drowsy silence lay over the large, square houses of Privet Drive.... The only person left outside was a teenage boy who was lying flat on his back in a flowerbed outside number four. "Later in the novel, J.K.Rowling writes: "Dumbledore lowered his hands and surveyed Harry through his half-moon glasses. 'It is time,' he said 'for me to tell you what I should have told you five years ago, Harry. Please sit down. I am going to tell you everything.' -Barbara Marcus, President of Scholastic Children's Books in the United States, and Nigel Newton, Chief Executive of Bloomsbury Publishing in Britain Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is over 255,000 words compared to over l9l,000 words in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. The new book is 38 chapters long, one more than Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Wow, I sure can't wait for this one... Any of you guys HP fans?! Information courtesy of amazon.com

01-21-2003, 04:20 PM	#11
SeaThreePeeO Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Void Posts: 1,345	YAY! I can't wait! It has been so long coming, however, I think I'll have to re-read the other books to know what's going on LOL When all this Harry Potter hype first started I wanted nothing to do with it. I was only by chance that my mother bought Ana, my daughter the film on dvd. I sat and watched it and then made a promise to myself that I would read all of the Harry Potter books. I am so glad I did, as it has awakened a love of reading in me and opened the door to many other interesting and exciting novels __________________ Zombies, once you get past the stench of rotting flesh and their unhealthy obsession with brains, they're really nice people.

01-21-2003, 05:07 PM	#12
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmmmm Mike could kick Dumbledorf's ass. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

01-21-2003, 06:10 PM	#14
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	The two movies are crap. I'll get that out of the way right now. As for the new book: FINALLY! I haven't had anything to read since I finished off The Hobbit a little while back. The Harry Potter books are damn good reading, and getting alot deeper as they go along as well. These last three books are going to be very interesting... I still think The Lord of the Ring is better though. __________________ -Badabing.

01-21-2003, 08:10 PM	#17
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	heh id like to see Raph give that Potter kid a good thrashing. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

01-19-2003, 06:05 PM	#2
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	I am. I can't wait for that book to come out. Sound like a good book and its long . The quote "Dumbledore lowered his hands and surveyed Harry through his half-moon glasses. 'It is time,' he said 'for me to tell you what I should have told you five years ago, Harry. Please sit down. I am going to tell you everything.' is very interesting. Wonder what hes talking about (want it out now!!!!)

01-19-2003, 06:23 PM	#3
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	I can't wait...I am guessing it has to do with harry's past or something, OR some kind of power or something within him he never knew he had... Yea, this is damn long...only one chapter longer, but about a third larger...If the 4th one was bigger than the second and third ones combined...you can imagine how large this book is going to be or how much it will weigh, lmao...

01-19-2003, 06:27 PM	#4
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Yeah, those books do seem to keep getting longer and longer, don't they? Well, I'll definitely be picking it up... as soon as it's in paperback.

01-19-2003, 07:31 PM	#5
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	yeah its probably about his past. Maybe something to do with his parents?? I dunno just a thought. Im glad theyre long. Her books are indepth, its awsome. How big will 5 and 6 be if they keep getting larger and larger???

01-19-2003, 07:35 PM	#6
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Some whaat off topic, but any word who'll take up the role of Dumbledroff in the new movies, heard a lot of rumors (the one about Magneto/Gandalf doing it came out in a tabliod and has no truth to it from what I've heard)

01-19-2003, 08:35 PM	#7
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	As an avid Harry Potter fan, I cannot wait for the fifth book to come out in June. I can't believe the fourth book was released three years ago! It doesn't seem like it's been such a long time, but in other ways, it seems like that was forever ago. I like the fact that the books keep getting longer and longer. That just means the plots are thickening and thickening! The fourth book, obviously the longest one, was by far my favorite. The only things I hope that don't happen by the end of the series are: 1) We don't get some Star Wars ending where Lord Voldemort really ends up being Harry's father, and that's why young Potter can speak to snakes and why the Sorting Hat thought he'd make the perfect Slytherin. 2) Dumbledore doesn't end up being a bad guy. I don't know why I think this, but it would be the ultimate swerve to make him a bad guy all along, and then not reveal it until the very end. I would hate that. But tell me that the following passages from the fourth book on page 696 don't sound suspicious: ---------- "He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said the protection my - my mother left me - he'd have it too. And he was right - he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face." For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes. But next second, Harry was sure he had imagined it, for when Dumbledore had returned to his seat behind the desk, he looked as old and weary as Harry had ever seen him. "Very well," he said, sitting down again. "Voldemort has overcome that particular barrier. Harry, continue, please." ---------- Now was there a gleam of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes because he was happy that Voldemort had broken through Harry Potter's defense? If he's a bad guy all along, it looks like he momentarily let it show because he sure seems happy to hear the news. I'm wondering if this isn't a subtle but valuable hint of things to come. And then Dumbledore has to calm himself down as to not make it obvious: "Very well. Voldemort has overcome that particular barrier." All the while thinking, however . . . Yes! I don't know. Maybe I'm over-speculating. Maybe that paragraph has a whole other meaning. But when I read those passages, a bunch of red flags went up. What do you guys think? "D'you - d'you want to go to the ball with me?" said Harry. Why did he have to go red now? Why? "Oh!" said Cho, and she went red too. "Oh Harry, I'm really sorry," and she truly looked it. "I've already said I'll go with someone else." From "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire"

01-19-2003, 08:53 PM	#8
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Heh, shredhead, i just told you how long book 5 will be, lol. Anyway, good speculations NTCF! I saw that too and got a little curious, but it may be a trick from Rowling, she pulls a lot of these, which makes the books interesting... It could mean something like Dumbledore just found out that only harry's blood can make him stronger or something...I don't know...but it is a little strange...It was a surprise enough when Fudge was getting pissed off at Dumbledore...and they had the parting of the ways, I really don't think Dumbledore will let us down...heh. Also, about the Star Wars thing, I just highly doubt that will happen...JK Rowling will probably come up with some really clever way to finish off the book, it wouldn't be like her to make something that overused...If Voldemort was his father, who was James and Lily Potter? Another thing I can't wait to find out is how quidditch is going to be. Since Wood isn't there, gryffindor needs a new keeper and captain, I wonder who it will be..Other teams need replacements to such as Marcus Flint not there anymore either. I also can't wait to see what happens with the relationship with Snape and Dumbledore this book...it is all going to be very interesting...Remember at the end of the 4th book Dumbledore assigns Snape to do something important, which he knew about? I really want to know what that was...heh Other things that could happen is someone we know may be a prefect...they probly will take the O.W.L's test. Oh well, now it all is coming back to me which means I am going to go mad crazy waiting the next few months...oh well NTCF, you were right, it didn't seem that long at all....part of it is probly due to the fact most people gave up waiting for it, LOL.

01-21-2003, 05:11 PM	#13
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I honestlu don't get what people see in Harry Potter. I haven't read any of the books, But I have watched the first Movie. I tought it was VERY broing. My little sister, who is a huge Potter fan thinks that movie is great... Well these are the biggest mysteries in life...

01-21-2003, 07:49 PM	#15
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	I dont think the movies were crap, well the first one was crap. It was very boring and in my opinion the first book was the worst of the four. But I like the 2nd movie. It was a lot more interesting and had much more action. The Harry Potter books are the best books ive ever read

01-21-2003, 07:57 PM	#16
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Karpo, it is rediculous to say Harry Potter is crap and you don't know what all the hype is about when you haven't even read the books yourself. The movies are a very poor indication as to what Harry Potter is like. I really suggest actually reading the books instead of bashing people's opinions on which you have no right to. Yea, the last books are supposed to be a lot darker too, so it will be very interesting as raphael-sama has said.

01-21-2003, 08:14 PM	#18
Prowl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 191	I used to wonder what the hype was about. I remember lining up to see a movie and seeing the line at the bookstore next door (people waiting for book 4). And I wondered what the big deal was. Then I took a chance and read it. I can't wait for book 5. And the thing is, I really enjoyed the movie, because it took me back to the book, but it could never replace the read, just help remember key points. Book 3 and 4 are insane. Edit: Garry Oldman as Black....Man I hope so. __________________ "You can run but you can't hide!"