Official Continuity Thread

Aztec General · 01-21-2003, 12:56 PM

Okay we started talking about this in the Bodycount thread but it was way off topic, so I decided to start an "Official" thread about the Mirage comic continuity.

Okay so far here is the agreed upon list:
TMNT Vol. 1
1-15, 17-21, 24-30, 43, 45-62, 4 Microseries, Fugitoid Microseries
Tales of the TMNT Vol. 1
1-7 (I believe?)
TMNT Vol. 2
1-13
TMNT Vol. 4
1-Ongoing
Flaming Carrot, Savage Dragon Crossovers, Casey Jones 2 parter, Casey Jones: North by Downeast

Am I missing any?

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 01:19 PM

I think that the Savage dragons are Image continium. Atleast some of them. And I know nothing about that Falming carrot thing, But usually cross overs aren't part of Canon. Also Some of the stories In Turtle soups could be considered as part official continium.

Sparvid · 01-21-2003, 01:54 PM

Yep, the Savage Dragon comic takes place in the main Image Universe, so those crossovers are probably only in the vol3 continuity...

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 02:26 PM

Flaming carrots were made earlier I think, But I still doubt they are part of canon.

EDIT: Atleast one thing is missing from the list, Challenges GN by Michael Dooney. It has a sort story for Every turtle and splinter. It also retells the Origin.

Aztec General · 01-21-2003, 03:52 PM

I forgot to add Issue #42 from Vol. 1. Well the first Savage Dragon/TMNT crossover was preImage TMNT. They even make reference to it in a Vol. 2 issue. The Flaming Carrot crossover was during the Volume 2 time period. I never read any of the Turtle Soups. Are they any good?

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 03:58 PM

Volume of TS is Black&white and has one issue,(I have ordered it, it is on the way) Volume 2 is in full color. They contain short stories by various artists, And some of those stories can be considered as a part of the Canon. I haven' got th first one yet, But I have read 2 of the Volume 2 ones, and I think they are good.

*Anarchistguy* · 01-21-2003, 06:27 PM

Does anyone here happen to know how Baxter Stockman turned into a cyborg
in Vol.2?

**Karpo_007** · 01-21-2003, 06:28 PM

So I've heard. But I have yet to read so far...

Aztec General · 01-21-2003, 07:11 PM

Hmm... okay maybe we can throw the Turtle Soups in the Canon as well. I also forgot about Michael Dooney's "Challenges". I really have to order both. Dan Berger must know me so damn well by now.

Also to add to the above list is Michael Zulli's trilogy not Canon but a fantastic story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anarchistguy

Does anyone here happen to know how Baxter Stockman turned into a cyborg
in Vol.2?

*Spoiler for Karpo*
He removes his own brain and inserts it into a Cyborg body.

Aztec General · 01-21-2003, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmm... okay maybe we can throw the Turtle Soups in the Canon as well. I also forgot about Michael Dooney's "Challenges". I really have to order both. Dan Berger must know me so damn well by now.

Also to add to the above list is Michael Zulli's trilogy not Canon but a fantastic story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anarchistguy

Does anyone here happen to know how Baxter Stockman turned into a cyborg
in Vol.2?

*Spoiler for Karpo*
He removes his own brain and inserts it into a Cyborg body.

I know I clicked "Log In Permanently" this is getting annoying.

Sauron · 01-21-2003, 08:41 PM

Any chance he'll put it in a cyborg insectoid body? Wishful thinking

**HorseTechie** · 01-22-2003, 10:18 AM

And become an Insecticon? I don't think so... or at least not without asking for Hasbro's permission. (Sorry, I couldn't resist!)

I have 2 out fo the three Flaming Carrot comics, but... I can't remember what publisher put them out either. Think it was Mirage... I'll go check when I think of it.

There's another TMNT crossover done by an indie publisher who did the Creed comics (by Trent Karnuga). I loved the way he drew them too.

**Karpo_007** · 01-22-2003, 10:30 AM

But the question is, are they part of the official continuity? Thre are many Mirage published books that aren't, like Grey sponge sushi turtles or haunted Pizza. There are more.

**HorseTechie** · 01-22-2003, 10:57 AM

Yeah, I know Creed wasn't a Mirage run. Did I do wrong by mentioning that?

Okay.. *looks at another website to check* Oh yeah, when Usagi Yojimbo was published by Mirage, Stan did a few TMNT crossovers too.

Then... *clips and pastes stuff not listed yet*

Gobbledy Go ok special (first TMNT appearance)
Shell Shock (backstory collection from Volume 1)
Tales of the TMNT #1-7
Body Count #1-4 (originally titled Casey Jones & Raphael)
Casey Jones: North by Downeast #1 & 2 (Mirage?)
Turtle Soup special
Turtle Soup #1-4
Plastron Café #1
The Haunted Pizza special
The Maltese Turtle special
Times Pipeline special (not sure if that's Mirage)
TMNT: Challenges graphic novel by Micahel Dooney
Usagi Yojimbo Volume 1 #10
Usagi Yojimbo Volume 2 #2 & 3

**Karpo_007** · 01-22-2003, 11:00 AM

Yeah atleast these aren't part of the Canon :
The Haunted Pizza special
The Maltese Turtle special
Times Pipeline special (not sure if that's Mirage)

The plastron short stories or Usagi Yojimbo might be, I don't know anything about them.

**HorseTechie** · 01-22-2003, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

The plastron short stories or Usagi Yojimbo might be, I don't know anything about them.

They are. I know Mirage put those out.

**Karpo_007** · 01-22-2003, 11:05 AM

Well as I said eralier, not all Mirage published are part of the Canon. If I remember correctly, the are puböished by Mirage. And for the info I have got on them, I can say they aren't part of the Canon. OF course neither are some Volume 1 guest artist issues.

The Haunted Pizza special
The Maltese Turtle special
Times Pipeline specia

Aztec General · 02-01-2003, 08:53 PM

Having just reread Issue 37, I want to add that issue as well to the continuity. Wow I've forgotten all about this one. What a great story. I also want to add issue 44. I don't have this one but after checking out the summary on the offical site, it sounds cool and features the Foot. I'll have to order it. So for anyone following along:

Mirage Canon
Volume 1:
1-15, 17-21, 24-30, 32, 37, 42-62
31, 35-36 Not Canon but worth owning
Tales of the TMNT:
1-7
One Shots and Specials:
Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo, Fugitoid, Challenges, Casey Jones: North by Downeast
Turtle Soup:
1-4 Contains some canon stories
Volume 2:
1-13
Volume 4:
1-7 (ongoing)

**Karpo_007** · 02-02-2003, 07:18 AM

I think thats pretty much it. I heard that Usago Yojimbo cross over would be Canon too, But I don't have that yet so can't confirm.

Rick98761 · 04-28-2003, 11:27 AM

what is volume3 , no one ever talks about it

01-21-2003, 03:52 PM	#5
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	I forgot to add Issue #42 from Vol. 1. Well the first Savage Dragon/TMNT crossover was preImage TMNT. They even make reference to it in a Vol. 2 issue. The Flaming Carrot crossover was during the Volume 2 time period. I never read any of the Turtle Soups. Are they any good? __________________

01-21-2003, 06:27 PM	#7
Anarchistguy Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada (This country is too peaceful, Something's up...) Posts: 2,137	Does anyone here happen to know how Baxter Stockman turned into a cyborg in Vol.2? __________________ M.D.K. Maim! Destroy! Kill!!! "When my time comes, I wanna be buried face down, so those who don't like me can kiss my ass!"

01-21-2003, 08:41 PM	#11
Sauron Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sewers of Seattle Posts: 108	Any chance he'll put it in a cyborg insectoid body? Wishful thinking __________________ "The only good turtle is soup" -The Foot Clan

02-01-2003, 08:53 PM	#18
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Having just reread Issue 37, I want to add that issue as well to the continuity. Wow I've forgotten all about this one. What a great story. I also want to add issue 44. I don't have this one but after checking out the summary on the offical site, it sounds cool and features the Foot. I'll have to order it. So for anyone following along: Mirage Canon Volume 1: 1-15, 17-21, 24-30, 32, 37, 42-62 31, 35-36 Not Canon but worth owning Tales of the TMNT: 1-7 One Shots and Specials: Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo, Fugitoid, Challenges, Casey Jones: North by Downeast Turtle Soup: 1-4 Contains some canon stories Volume 2: 1-13 Volume 4: 1-7 (ongoing) __________________

01-21-2003, 12:56 PM	#1
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Official Continuity Thread Okay we started talking about this in the Bodycount thread but it was way off topic, so I decided to start an "Official" thread about the Mirage comic continuity. Okay so far here is the agreed upon list: TMNT Vol. 1 1-15, 17-21, 24-30, 43, 45-62, 4 Microseries, Fugitoid Microseries Tales of the TMNT Vol. 1 1-7 (I believe?) TMNT Vol. 2 1-13 TMNT Vol. 4 1-Ongoing Flaming Carrot, Savage Dragon Crossovers, Casey Jones 2 parter, Casey Jones: North by Downeast Am I missing any? __________________

01-21-2003, 01:19 PM	#2
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I think that the Savage dragons are Image continium. Atleast some of them. And I know nothing about that Falming carrot thing, But usually cross overs aren't part of Canon. Also Some of the stories In Turtle soups could be considered as part official continium.

01-21-2003, 01:54 PM	#3
Sparvid Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Östersund, Sweden Posts: 860	Yep, the Savage Dragon comic takes place in the main Image Universe, so those crossovers are probably only in the vol3 continuity...

01-21-2003, 02:26 PM	#4
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Flaming carrots were made earlier I think, But I still doubt they are part of canon. EDIT: Atleast one thing is missing from the list, Challenges GN by Michael Dooney. It has a sort story for Every turtle and splinter. It also retells the Origin.

01-21-2003, 03:58 PM	#6
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Volume of TS is Black&white and has one issue,(I have ordered it, it is on the way) Volume 2 is in full color. They contain short stories by various artists, And some of those stories can be considered as a part of the Canon. I haven' got th first one yet, But I have read 2 of the Volume 2 ones, and I think they are good.

01-21-2003, 06:28 PM	#8
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	So I've heard. But I have yet to read so far...

01-22-2003, 10:18 AM	#12
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	And become an Insecticon? I don't think so... or at least not without asking for Hasbro's permission. (Sorry, I couldn't resist!) I have 2 out fo the three Flaming Carrot comics, but... I can't remember what publisher put them out either. Think it was Mirage... I'll go check when I think of it. There's another TMNT crossover done by an indie publisher who did the Creed comics (by Trent Karnuga). I loved the way he drew them too.

01-22-2003, 10:30 AM	#13
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	But the question is, are they part of the official continuity? Thre are many Mirage published books that aren't, like Grey sponge sushi turtles or haunted Pizza. There are more.

01-22-2003, 10:57 AM	#14
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	Yeah, I know Creed wasn't a Mirage run. Did I do wrong by mentioning that? Okay.. looks at another website to check Oh yeah, when Usagi Yojimbo was published by Mirage, Stan did a few TMNT crossovers too. Then... clips and pastes stuff not listed yet Gobbledy Go ok special (first TMNT appearance) Shell Shock (backstory collection from Volume 1) Tales of the TMNT #1-7 Body Count #1-4 (originally titled Casey Jones & Raphael) Casey Jones: North by Downeast #1 & 2 (Mirage?) Turtle Soup special Turtle Soup #1-4 Plastron Café #1 The Haunted Pizza special The Maltese Turtle special Times Pipeline special (not sure if that's Mirage) TMNT: Challenges graphic novel by Micahel Dooney Usagi Yojimbo Volume 1 #10 Usagi Yojimbo Volume 2 #2 & 3

01-22-2003, 11:00 AM	#15
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah atleast these aren't part of the Canon : The Haunted Pizza special The Maltese Turtle special Times Pipeline special (not sure if that's Mirage) The plastron short stories or Usagi Yojimbo might be, I don't know anything about them.

01-22-2003, 11:05 AM	#17
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well as I said eralier, not all Mirage published are part of the Canon. If I remember correctly, the are puböished by Mirage. And for the info I have got on them, I can say they aren't part of the Canon. OF course neither are some Volume 1 guest artist issues. The Haunted Pizza special The Maltese Turtle special Times Pipeline specia

02-02-2003, 07:18 AM	#19
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I think thats pretty much it. I heard that Usago Yojimbo cross over would be Canon too, But I don't have that yet so can't confirm.

04-28-2003, 11:27 AM	#20
Rick98761 Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 26	what is volume3 , no one ever talks about it