how far has the tmnt universe gone?

[LogicDonny]

Like I mean storywise.. in the cartoon the shredder/krang is defeated for good, Dregg is also too.

So like in the comics or something or any other stories have the turtles gone on and done other things or has splinter died and the turtles are left without a father.

I am just curious.

I know right now in the 2k3 series, the turtles are in future but perhaps will get back to new york present day maybe this coming season or so?

[ToTheNines]

Splinter is dead in the Comic books, Raph is Gamera, and Don is like shrunk... and then there is April... let's not talk about April....

[Time Mistress]

Originally Posted by LogicDonny

So like in the comics or something or any other stories have the turtles gone on and done other things or has splinter died and the turtles are left without a father.

I am just curious.

Yup, that pretty much describes Volume 4.

Shredder is gone for good.

Splinter died (of a heart attack I think).

TMNT are in their late 20s/early 30s. They all were off doing their own thing but circumstances were (very slowly) getting them back together before Vol. 4 went on hiatus.

Casey and April are in their early 40s and their have a 15 year old adopted daughter named Shadow.

The Turtles are projected to live about 150 years I think, kinda like the great tortoises. Leo is still pretty buttkicking at age 100 with a lightsaber katana (made for him by Don) and he's given up killing. Volume 2 had some epilogue scene I think with Don taking Splinter's ashes back to Japan. An alternate universe suggested to Raph at one point that if he wasn't there to help his brothers in a time of need they would all be dead and Raph would take up living the life of a wildman in a swamp, consumed by his animal rage.

Last Turtle living has been suggested as either Don or Raph from the various small future glimpses we've seen (though I'm not sure alternate universes and possible futures count.) It'd be a story too morbid to tell.

Interestingly, Archie, Mirage, Image, and the new toon have all shown future Raph losing an eye a some point. Image even showed how it happened, yuck! I hope this alarming re-ocurrance is not set in stone and just keeps happening in alternate universes just because Raph looks cool with an eyepatch.

[LogicDonny]

ok i understand.. thank you.. when did the comic end? Will the 2k3 series contuine to use the comic storyline or is the comic not part of 2k3 series?

[soccerstud652]

Originally Posted by Time Mistress

Yup, that pretty much describes Volume 4.

Shredder is gone for good.

Splinter died (of a heart attack I think).

TMNT are in their late 20s/early 30s. They all were off doing their own thing but circumstances were (very slowly) getting them back together before Vol. 4 went on hiatus.

Casey and April are in their early 40s and their have a 15 year old adopted daughter named Shadow.

The Turtles are projected to live about 150 years I think, kinda like the great tortoises. Leo is still pretty buttkicking at age 100 with a lightsaber katana (made for him by Don) and he's given up killing. Volume 2 had some epilogue scene I think with Don taking Splinter's ashes back to Japan. An alternate universe suggested to Raph at one point that if he wasn't there to help his brothers in a time of need they would all be dead and Raph would take up living the life of a wildman in a swamp, consumed by his animal rage.

Last Turtle living has been suggested as either Don or Raph from the various small future glimpses we've seen (though I'm not sure alternate universes and possible futures count.) It'd be a story too morbid to tell.

Interestingly, Archie, Mirage, Image, and the new toon have all shown future Raph losing an eye a some point. Image even showed how it happened, yuck! I hope this alarming re-ocurrance is not set in stone and just keeps happening in alternate universes just because Raph looks cool with an eyepatch.

Which volume 4 / set of comics are you referring to? Could you name the comics or series in which these events occur?

[TheAnimatedSeries]

The Eastman and Laird TMNT books I read were real good, but it seems like ever since the 80s people are trying to make the comic a shock thing.

Theres also no reason for April and Casey to be in their 40's, since the comic is always barely published and a whole volume is out of continuity, they've probably aged six months in the last ten years.

[xChri5x]

Splinter died? That's horrible. They should all be timeless. Maybe they'll bring him back

[slkblaze]

I remember one of them got injured pretty badly. I think like, Raph got his face melted or something. The comics were pretty gruesome =/.

[Raph's Girl]

Shredder is gone for good.
The original Shredder maybe but there's a new one now and he's a good guy and making friends with Leo! This one's actual name is Oroku Yoshi

Splinter died (of a heart attack I think).
Yep.. He baught the farm on the farm....in the broom closet... But his spirit has shown up several times. In dreams to both Raph and Mike, in the lair to help Gameraph control his feral-ness, and in Alaska he appeared briefly to April

TMNT are in their late 20s/early 30s. They all were off doing their own thing but circumstances were (very slowly) getting them back together before Vol. 4 went on hiatus.
The TMNT are in their mid 30's. They're around 35 years of age.

Casey and April are in their early 40s and their have a 15 year old adopted daughter named Shadow.
Shadow is actually around 17/18. We know this because when she was 13 she killed her best friend accidentally and mentioned this happening as 5 years earlier.

The Turtles are projected to live about 150 years I think, kinda like the great tortoises. Leo is still pretty buttkicking at age 100 with a lightsaber katana (made for him by Don) and he's given up killing.
In the Archie series Raphael mentions to his future self that he and his brothers will live 400 years

Volume 2 had some epilogue scene I think with Don taking Splinter's ashes back to Japan.
I believe that was Volume 3, which is not canon.

An alternate universe suggested to Raph at one point that if he wasn't there to help his brothers in a time of need they would all be dead and Raph would take up living the life of a wildman in a swamp, consumed by his animal rage.
Raph glimpsed this future in the Archie series in a dream. He told the dream to his wife, Mezcaal. That future was also depicted in Michelangelo's christmas issue in which Raphael is visited by the ghosts of christmas past, present, and future.

Last Turtle living has been suggested as either Don or Raph from the various small future glimpses we've seen (though I'm not sure alternate universes and possible futures count.) It'd be a story too morbid to tell.
It's Raph according to the RPG books.

Image even showed how it happened, yuck!
Archie also showed how it happened. In an explosion. Raph's destiny is to loose his left eye. Plain and simple. He was also minus an eye in Same As It Never Was.

[Rockzero]

Originally Posted by slkblaze

I remember one of them got injured pretty badly. I think like, Raph got his face melted or something. The comics were pretty gruesome =/.

I'm pretty sure in one of the volumes, Donatello was pushed from a helicopter and landed on his shell, shattered it and then became part cyborg or something. Correct me if I'm wrong about this, I'll be perfectly honest and say I'm not too familiar with the comics.

I remember seeing it a long time ago, and -that- was really gruesome...

[raphaelprime]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Splinter died (of a heart attack I think).
Yep.. He baught the farm on the farm....in the broom closet... But his spirit has shown up several times. In dreams to both Raph and Mike, in the lair to help Gameraph control his feral-ness, and in Alaska he appeared briefly to April

Sorry, i still dont think Splinter died of a heart attack. I think he was murder, my guess on the killer? not exactly sure on it, but im willing to bet perhaps the rat king.
EDIT:: yes, im willing to bet very good money splinter was murdered by the rat king.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by raphaelprime

EDIT:: yes, im willing to bet very good money splinter was murdered by the rat king.

Rat King died over 20 years ago. His Spirit helped Splinter to survive by going cannibalistic (IE eating rats) when he (Splinter) was injured in a fall during the City At War arc.

Durring the first couple issues of Volume 4 you can see Splinter cringing at the table when nobody is looking. The first signs of a heart attack. Then several issues later he dies of one. Yes Rat King is seen in the background. But in this case he is still a spirit come to take Splinter. Rat King is the representation of death.

[raphaelprime]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Rat King died over 20 years ago. His Spirit helped Splinter to survive by going cannibalistic (IE eating rats) when he (Splinter) was injured in a fall during the City At War arc.

Durring the first couple issues of Volume 4 you can see Splinter cringing at the table when nobody is looking. The first signs of a heart attack. Then several issues later he dies of one. Yes Rat King is seen in the background. But in this case he is still a spirit come to take Splinter. Rat King is the representation of death.

hmmm, ok. I coulda sworn though i read somewhere after issue 10 in the letter pages Laird said he didnt wanna comment and spoil any possibilities about the possible returns of Leatherhead and Rat King(which we've already found out about LH)

[Nightwatcher]

The comics seem pretty sweet.

Too bad no comic stores near me have any in stock ever. Are these relatively easy to find online? Like ebay and whatnot.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by raphaelprime

Laird said he didnt wanna comment and spoil any possibilities about the possible returns of Leatherhead and Rat King(which we've already found out about LH)

The closest thing to Rat King's return is an upcoming issue of Tales of the TMNT in which we will find out his origin and how it connects to Splinter.

[Sage Ninja]

shoudn't this be in the comic section?

[Time Mistress]

Thanks for the clarifications Raph's Girl. It's been a while since I read my comics so I was going mainly by memory. Maybe I should read them again.

The easiest way to order the comics is to go to the official TMNT website and see what back issues are still available to order under the comics section.

While this topic has veered into comics talk the question was how far into the future have we seen in ANY TMNT media. It's just coincidence that the furthest we've seen into the future story wise has usually been in the comics.

[heretic888]

Originally Posted by LogicDonny

ok i understand.. thank you.. when did the comic end? Will the 2k3 series contuine to use the comic storyline or is the comic not part of 2k3 series?

Volume 4 is ongoing but currently on hiatus (due to Laird working on the TMNT movie over the past several months). Hopefully, it will pick up again soon.

The Mirage series and the 2k3 series are different continuities.

[heretic888]

Originally Posted by TheAnimatedSeries

The Eastman and Laird TMNT books I read were real good, but it seems like ever since the 80s people are trying to make the comic a shock thing.

No offense, but its obvious you've never read Volume 4.

Volume 3 (the short-lived Image series) was a "shock thing". Volume 4 is more along the lines of an epic and complex sci-fi/fantasy storyline, with each of the protagonists involved in their own sub-story.

Originally Posted by TheAnimatedSeries

Theres also no reason for April and Casey to be in their 40's, since the comic is always barely published and a whole volume is out of continuity, they've probably aged six months in the last ten years.

Actually, they've aged ten years in the last ten years. Laird purposefully chose to have the story set in real time (at least in the beginning). The TMNT were 15 years old in 1985 (i.e., issue 4 of Volume 1), so they're around 31 or 32 in the first issue of Volume 4.

[Jo Dawn]

I'm pretty sure in one of the volumes, Donatello was pushed from a helicopter and landed on his shell, shattered it and then became part cyborg or something.

It happened... but it's not really canon.

Originally Posted by heretic888

Actually, they've aged ten years in the last ten years. Laird purposefully chose to have the story set in real time (at least in the beginning). The TMNT were 15 years old in 1985 (i.e., issue 4 of Volume 1), so they're around 31 or 32 in the first issue of Volume 4.

I love when they do that (unless there's soooo much time inbetween issues, yes? So as not to confuse us, of course. )

The comic strip For Better or For Worse does that, and I think it's great.